Xbox One adds Xbox 360 backwards compatibility

Sorry I'm way late answering this as I had to leave last night right after I asked. And yes to at least the film grain and I believe yes to blur as well. I'll try disabling them to see if there's a difference.
Yeah, see if that improves anything. I noticed the frame rate seemed a bit lower on the Normandy in the prolouge, but it seemed fine afterwards. I also upped the camera sensitivity for everything too.
 
Man, Super Meat Boy is amazing on X1's D-pad. I thought the game was just 'okay' before but it's really great now.

Also, I just realized you can hit "Manage Storage" on the guide to see which games you have cloud saves for.

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(taken with X1's screenshot capability)

Only supported titles have images.

And having DVR available is such an underrated feature. I may never play a supported BC title on my original 360 again.

https://account.xbox.com/en-us/game...ker&scid=3a5f0100-1ea5-4605-b392-74dc043900a7
 
Does Super Meat Boy feel slightly off for anyone else? The controls don't feel as responsive as the 360/PC versions of the game. Also, the frame rate dipped on the boss stage of the first world, I don't think that happened in the 360 version.

Edit: frame rate problems on 2-6 too. Might be more widespread than initially thought.
 
EA has already given support
Bethesda has already given support
Ubisoft has already given support
Take2 games has already given support
Namco has already given support
Sega has already given support
Tecmo has already given support.

Do you have a source for that?

GREAT if true but besides EA, Bethesda and Ubi, I haven't heard from anyone else showing support. I really do hope publishers don't screw this over!
 
EA has already given support
Bethesda has already given support
Ubisoft has already given support
Take2 games has already given support
Namco has already given support
Sega has already given support
Tecmo has already given support

Now need

Activision
Capcom
Konami
Square
WB

And a bunch of smaller ones

Question still remains on how selective the publishers will be, too.

When they are not planning on doing a remake / remaster they would acutally be stupid not to let MS re-release their games for free.

They can just make money out of it.
 
OP may want to add this. I just went through the video again and wrote down every title I recognized that was either scrolling behind Phil, or was in the Rolodex lineup after he handed it off to the engineer. Here is what I saw in order of how I saw it:

Assassin's Creed
Mass Effect
Forza 4
Clash of Heroes HD
Sacred 2
Rayman Origins
Pacman Championship Edition DX
Forza Horizon
Halo CE: Anniversary Edition
Rainbow Six: Vegas
Rayman Legends
Vanquish
Shadow Complex
Rainbow Six: Vegas 2
Toy Story 3
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter
Halo 3
Soul Caliber V
Sonic Adventure 2
Shadowrun
Risen 3
Saint's Row: The Third
Assassins Creed Brotherhood
Prince of Persia: The Forgotten Sands
Forza 2
Ninja Gaiden 3
Splinter Cell: Double Agent
Dead Space
Dark Souls
Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway(?)
Civilization Revolution
Child of Eden
Cars 2
Assassin's Creed: Revelations
Borderlands
Bioshock
Call of Juarez: Bound in Blood(?)
Bayonetta
Fallout 3
Fable 2
Bioshock Infinite
Far Cry 2
Alan Wake
Ghost Recon Advanced Warfighter 2
Far Cry: Blood Dragon
Dark Souls 2

I'm sure I missed some, but that's what I picked up. I assume that they wouldn't have shown those titles without already having authorization to put them up.

https://youtu.be/cCGKATko82U?t=4m29s

The Witcher 2
Shoot Many Robots
Driver San Francisco
Disney Universe
 
Well ain't that some shit. Thanks for the heads up.

Small Arms, anyone? Surely one of the other 4 people who bought this game posts on GAF.

Other people have Small Arms? I bought that game when it was new-ish and I've never met someone else who has it. Haha.

All about Mr. Truffles.
 
Do you have a source for that?

GREAT if true but besides EA, Bethesda and Ubi, I haven't heard from anyone else showing support. I really do hope publishers don't screw this over!

Just going off the boxart of games that Microsoft has shown off. I would assume titles they have shown are ones that publishers have approved.

Considering Activision, capcom, konami and square are major publishers... not having any of their games on the board certainly speaks towards the probability of approval.
 
It emulates the 360. You can even pull up the old guide.

If it's emulation then why only a few games are working now? Before you say publishers must approve, even some games from MS aren't yet emulated.

EDIT: And for disk based games, you have to download some digital version of that game, which shouldn't be the case for true emulation.
 
From another ME1 comparison video.



Pretty impressive.

I don't fully agree wih him on the frame drops... it might be something that can be fixed when things are more properly emulated

If it's emulation then why only a few games are working now? Before you say publishers must approve, even some games from MS aren't yet emulated.

EDIT: And for disk based games, you have to download some digital version of that game, which shouldn't be the case for true emulation.

The console is emulated. What you're downloading is a wrapped version of the game with the latest patches and everything that tells the xbox one what game it is so that it can exist as an entity on the XB1.

Why this is being done? Likely to reduce the ridiculous amount of redundancy that would occur. You don't want a separate system handling patching. Also XB1 doesn't have the same security features on discs as the 360. Authentication no longer occurs on the firmware of the optical drive... so they may have this as an anti piracy solution.

after MS gains publisher approval, MS wraps the games, then they go through a QA phase. Then they'll be released to the consumer.

If it fails QA, then they go back to find out why it did and correct it.
 
If it's emulation then why only a few games are working now? Before you say publishers must approve, even some games from MS aren't yet emulated.

EDIT: And for disk based games, you have to download some digital version of that game, which shouldn't be the case for true emulation.

Right. There's something else being done here, but we just don't know what it is. A whitelist wouldn't be used for a real complete emulator. But it's still great for the games that work now or in the future.
 
I can't believe there is an opportunity for awesome online multiplayer games such as shadowrun, mw2, and condemned 2 to get their communities rejuvenated. This is what excites me the most.
 
If it's emulation then why only a few games are working now? Before you say publishers must approve, even some games from MS aren't yet emulated.

EDIT: And for disk based games, you have to download some digital version of that game, which shouldn't be the case for true emulation.

Baby steps. It's still in testing.

Gotta walk before you can run.
 
I can't believe there is an opportunity for awesome online multiplayer games such as shadowrun, mw2, and condemned 2 to get their communities rejuvenated. This is what excites me the most.

Modern Warfare 2? Hell no. Last time I played MW2 online, it was overrun by players using cheats and modifiers.
 
The console is emulated. What you're downloading is a wrapped version of the game with the latest patches and everything that tells the xbox one what game it is so that it can exist as an entity on the XB1.

Why this is being done? Likely to reduce the ridiculous amount of redundancy that would occur. You don't want a separate system handling patching. Also XB1 doesn't have the same security features on discs as the 360. Authentication no longer occurs on the firmware of the optical drive... so they may have this as an anti piracy solution.

after MS gains publisher approval, MS wraps the games, then they go through a QA phase. Then they'll be released to the consumer.

If it fails QA, then they go back to find out why it did and correct it.

OK, these are some good points.
 
OK, these are some good points.

There are other reasons. By putting each game into it's own package with the emulator means they can treat each game separately the same was they do XB1 games. So all the XB1 functions like screenshots, Twitch, activity feeds etc work without any additional work. When someone is playing Mass Effect 360 that's what it shows on their feed, if they had an emulator mode it would just say they're playing 360 Emulator. This also allows them to have artwork and stuff for each game, direct access to individual games via tiles or voice commands and suspend/resume just like they do for XB1 games.

So as far as the XB1 is concerned you're playing an XB1 game and as far as the emulator is concerned you're playing on a 360. It's a very elegant solution actually.
 
There are other reasons. By putting each game into it's own package with the emulator means they can treat each game separately the same was they do XB1 games. So all the XB1 functions like screenshots, Twitch, activity feeds etc work without any additional work. When someone is playing Mass Effect 360 that's what it shows on their feed, if they had an emulator mode it would just say they're playing 360 Emulator. This also allows them to have artwork and stuff for each game, direct access to individual games via tiles or voice commands and suspend/resume just like they do for XB1 games.

So as far as the XB1 is concerned you're playing an XB1 game and as far as the emulator is concerned you're playing on a 360. It's a very elegant solution actually.

it really is, I was listening to giant bomb's interview with phil about the emulation. interesting stuff.
 
I don't fully agree wih him on the frame drops... it might be something that can be fixed when things are more properly emulated



The console is emulated. What you're downloading is a wrapped version of the game with the latest patches and everything that tells the xbox one what game it is so that it can exist as an entity on the XB1.

Why this is being done? Likely to reduce the ridiculous amount of redundancy that would occur. You don't want a separate system handling patching. Also XB1 doesn't have the same security features on discs as the 360. Authentication no longer occurs on the firmware of the optical drive... so they may have this as an anti piracy solution.

after MS gains publisher approval, MS wraps the games, then they go through a QA phase. Then they'll be released to the consumer.

If it fails QA, then they go back to find out why it did and correct it.

It's worth mentioning that the last part of the QA phase is releasing the games for preview members. The preview dashboard app has a section (quest) for each game where you can rate the quality of the emulation and provide feedback. That's they are doing it right now the way they are with the slow rollout. I imagine even after the feature is fully released to the public, preview members will get the next planned games first to test before those are released to the public in the months and years to follow as well.
 
MW2 online has been abandoned, too many cheaters/hackers.

Modern Warfare 2? Hell no. Last time I played MW2 online, it was overrun by players using cheats and modifiers.
I think you guys are thinking of World at War.

MW2 has moddded lobbies but their mostly in private lobbies because modded lobbies in public lobbies are hard to do since you have to pull host. Game is dead because its old not mods.
 
I think you guys are thinking of World at War.

MW2 has moddded lobbies but their mostly in private lobbies because modded lobbies in public lobbies are hard to do since you have to pull host. Game is dead because its old not mods.
The last time I played MW2 I got thrown into a public lobby where you could run super fast and jump across the map in one leap. This one guy was running around with akimbo pistols that shot ac-130 shots.
 
That's just the 360 texture waiting to pop in though. They look pretty much the same once it does.

Yeah it's hard to tell a difference once they load in but I was surprised to see that the texture pop is almost non existent emulated on the Xbox One. I distinctly remember that bugging me on the 360. Super cool stuff. Frame drops and vsync is kinda iffy to me though. I hate tearing but I'd prefer the option to turn it off for accurate emulation, personally, but I'm not sure how they'd do that. Really curious how well newer games will hold up that really pushed the system to it's limits like Halo Reach. Though more work on the emulator might end up solving that either way, who knows.
 
I was hoping Fable 2 would be on BC, but it isn't. :( One of my favorite RPG's too.

The current list is just for beta testing

Any idea why Hexic HD isn't showing up in my list? Is it because it was on my launch 360s HD and not downloaded?

Yes, but you can go to xbox.com and buy it for free

Q: Why can’t I play Hexic HD, I own a digital copy on my 360?

A: Hexic HD came preinstalled on many versions of the Xbox 360. The bundled copy of Hexic HD is not associated with your Xbox Live account so the Xbox one does not know you own it. The good news is you can acquire this game for free here http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Hexic-HD/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d802584107d1
 
The two main things I would like is Ninja Gaiden II and Rising. I've been thinking of doing another Rising play through, but would rather not have to get my 360 from relatives.
 
The last time I played MW2 I got thrown into a public lobby where you could run super fast and jump across the map in one leap.This one guy was running around with akimbo pistols that shot ac-130 shots.
Okay I believe the first part because I been in a lobby like that like twice but the second part I don't believe. Also, like I said you have to pull host to do that so you just got unlucky, still a bunch of normal lobbies. World at War is 100000x worse.
 
Should I buy any rare game or just wait for Rare Replay? I really want to play through Kameo, but it's on Replay right?

Other than that, I think I'm going to buy Hominid and Mass Effect tonight. I really hope 2 and 3 are coming. I wanted to jump into the series, but held off on it.
 
None of this is final. We only have speculation of what will be included when it goes live for everyone, but they've said like 100+ at first with more rollouts.

So, Tecmo isn't confirmed? Damn. All I need for this to be worth it is NGII to be playable on my One.
 
All my 360 games were on an old disused account. I dusted it off, added it to my Xbone and hey presto, they all (be ones obviously) appeared under my current account too. Magic! No need to switch accounts!
 
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