It's kinda funny this has all originated from an ex-gaming journalist.
Bungie apologizes for Taken King controversy, CE items to be sold separate
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It's kinda funny this has all originated from an ex-gaming journalist.
Steelyuhas
Member
*raises hand*
Considering the sales and general positive opinion of Destiny, I feel like a stronger case could be made that we are disconnected
Not really. A company taking advantage of the desirability of its product when it comes to pricing expansions is not "us" being out of touch.
HalfBakedProphet
Member
this is a correct summary of the situation.
Keep in mind the first two expansions were $20 each. Bungie must not think highly of the content of their expansions when they're equal value to some class items, shaders and dance moves.
CreateNowSleepLater
Member
Give me a break. Everyone assumed expansions came with a Raid. They didn't even announce it would not have a Raid until a month before release. I get it, you like the game but cmon now. They have not done ONE consumer friendly thing since release and that PLANNED Raid was held back. That leaked image was a presentation, not some photoshop dude somewhere.
Souldestroyer Reborn
Banned
Here the graph about the previous issue.
Now it is fixed.
What is the other issue? The overpriced? I don't see this like a issue at all... it is like to say iPhone is overpriced compared with Android phones.
See my edit.
YOU may be paying $60
Everyone else outside of the US is paying $94.
MrGreencastle
Member
Here the graph about the previous issue.
Now it is fixed.
What is the other issue? The overpriced? I don't see this like a issue at all... it is like to say iPhone is overpriced compared with Android phones.
Damn. That's a nice effin graph. Labelled the axes and everything. Shit.
I'll dance with you in my horse armour.
bananafactory
Banned
The new player entry seems like a decent price considering everything that's in there, to be honest. Oddly, it's the loyal existing players who get fucked
I didn't think of it like that. Good LORD.
For the record - I don't play the game, I traded it in around Christmas. But I keep thinking about picking it back up with all the new content, however shit like this makes it REALLLY hard to justify that.
Raven Prime
Member
I honestly think I'm done with Destiny when the new DLC hits.
Sugarmonkey
Member
This is the final nail in the coffin for me. I feel like a chump for having bought the DLC pass ahead of knowing what would actually be in it, and reading about this fiasco, coupled with the Batman mess and other shady shit going on in videogame land, I will no longer be pre-ordering, or paying for beta / early access in general. I feel like I have been part of the problem for a while now, but this stuff with Bungie / Activision has brought everything into focus. Shame on me for being a sheep. My hobby deserves more. I have been into video games since the Commodore Vic-20. I need to be part of the solution, not the problem. Wiping Destiny from my PS4. I'm out.
ethomaz
Banned
You made it
I found it very instructive.I play on a regular basis but I sure as heck won't spend $20 on an emote pack.
Mike Works
Member
People who comes into threads to dump on the original release of Destiny when they have no interest in it are dumb.
People who are willing to white knight for a $20 DLC pack of emotes and shaders - the same price as a full-fledged expansion - are toxic.
A "meager cost". $20 for a handful of shaders, emotes, and three pieces of gear...
It doesn't matter if you felt The Dark Below or House of Wolves were worth $10, $20, $40, $100. Whatever you or any gamer individually feels they are worth, the fact is they were priced at $20. That was Bungie and Activision's evaluation.
Bungie and Activison are now trying to tell us that a handful of shaders, emotes, and gear are worth that exact same amount. A handful of shaders, emotes, and gear are allegedly worth the same as a handful of shaders, dozens of pieces of armor and guns, new missions, new strikes, and either a new raid or a battle arena.
It's fucking ludicrous. And you have to know it.
And don't bother replying, "Well don't buy it." That bridge was approached and passed hours ago. Everyone understands the act of voting with wallets. That will happen here, for better or worse.
But that doesn't mean we should stay silent at absurd value proposition Bungie and Activision are proposing here.
They need to offer the pack for $5 or free, or throw a hell of a lot more in it, and they need to do it fast. It's just a flabbergasting insult to do otherwise.
MrGreencastle
Member
Yeah that's some Red Bullshit right there. What were they thinking. They priced it exactly the same as the launch game and are still talking about how it's between a DLC and full game in scope. They didn't even try to hide it. I wish they'd fix that...
pixel monkey
Banned
Oh, wow... another entitled gamer that can only respond to an opinion that differs from his own with name calling, and insults.
That was completely unexpected.
Value over time. According to Bungie, Destiny + TDB + HoW is worth $20.
ethomaz
Banned
TKK is $40.
To get Destiny + Expansions + TKK you will spend $60... so Destiny + Expansions are $20 right now.
bananafactory
Banned
Yet the original Guardian edition that comes with Destiny + TDB + HOW is still $60 on PSN
JetBlackPanda
Member
so exactly what people were asking for?
Mike Works
Member
Respond to my post then.
Assuming usually ends in disappointment. That image was never meant for public consumption, and things change in game development all of the time.
You do not know that the raid was purposefully held back. What if it wasn't ready? What if it sucked? Release it anyway, and get shredded for it not being good? They instead brought a decent horde like mode into the game, which it was sorely lacking.
This has nothing to do with me liking or disliking the game. There are parts I love, and parts I absolutely loathe, I just try to keep everything in perspective and have a level head when discussing shit. I think you could agree that I do the same in Halo threads. I've never been on to lose my shit over a game, if something bothers me, I simply don't purchase it or support it.
In this particular case, yea, $20 for the emotes and shaders is a really bad value. They set themselves up though with the CE, as most of the shaders/class items are a part of the physical CE to add value to it, and if you devalue them, then you're asking people to pay $80 for a Strange Coin replica and a journal.
When Bungie offers shit on a platter, people aren't obliged to enjoy it.
bananafactory
Banned
The Long Dark devs takin shots at both Destiny and Arkham
DAMN
https://twitter.com/RaphLife/status/613895604402454531
DAMN
https://twitter.com/RaphLife/status/613895604402454531
pixel monkey
Banned
Again... you needn't purchase the emotes, shaders and exotic class items Bungie is now offering you outside of the collector's edition. You do understand that this is an optional standalone purchase, correct?
If the exclusive items, including the first exotic class items in this series, aren't worth $20 to you... then simply pass. And if it's that "toxic" and "insulting," perhaps it's time to pre-order the next Call of Duty instead?
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
MrGreencastle
Member
It's also not finished yet. Meh. Looks decent though.
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Deleted member 17706
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This fucking company... this team...
Their hubris is just off the charts.
It's really too bad that the core game mechanics are so good. As are the art and sound direction.
This could have been bigger than WoW, but they completely fucked it and continue down a path of shameless greed. It's really disappointing to watch.
Maybe they'll get their act together for Destiny 2, but I think it's unlikely at this point.
Their hubris is just off the charts.
It's really too bad that the core game mechanics are so good. As are the art and sound direction.
This could have been bigger than WoW, but they completely fucked it and continue down a path of shameless greed. It's really disappointing to watch.
Maybe they'll get their act together for Destiny 2, but I think it's unlikely at this point.
pixel monkey
Banned
Oh, certainly... I must have missed the bit in the update that noted all guardians mandatory direct debits from their accounts as well as the smiles they must wear to Oryx's grand reception.
So, let me get this right:
-The 'Taken King' expansion is going to be 20 bucks now
-The 'Collectors' Items are also 20 bucks
-Working out pricing systems for all buyers
....I think I might be wrong about the price drop for the 'Taken King' Expansion but are they really going to sell those emote things for 20 bucks :l? That.....doesn't solve the problem; they are things that should be in the core content of the expansion to begin with.
Not a huge fan of this series, so not my place to talk about the game, but this sounds like instead of saying "I'm sorry for upsetting you man. Here, we are offering these things as a 5-10 dollar upgrade now", they are really saying "Oh, so you DON'T want to pay premium to experience our game? That's fine. Give us 20 bucks."
At least they commented on peoples frustrations though :l. Better then nothing I suppose....
-The 'Taken King' expansion is going to be 20 bucks now
-The 'Collectors' Items are also 20 bucks
-Working out pricing systems for all buyers
....I think I might be wrong about the price drop for the 'Taken King' Expansion but are they really going to sell those emote things for 20 bucks :l? That.....doesn't solve the problem; they are things that should be in the core content of the expansion to begin with
. Not a huge fan of this series, so not my place to talk about the game, but this sounds like instead of saying "I'm sorry for upsetting you man. Here, we are offering these things as a 5-10 dollar upgrade now", they are really saying "Oh, so you DON'T want to pay premium to experience our game? That's fine. Give us 20 bucks."
At least they commented on peoples frustrations though :l. Better then nothing I suppose....
Omega Kirby
Member
I'm so glad I skipped this game.
Makes sense
Hell, with the original vanilla game it was $10 cheaper to go with the Digital CE than the physical CE. (not talking about the Ghost edition)
Freshmaker
I am Korean.
I get the impression they wanted them rolled into the other ritzy expansion packs.
MrGreencastle
Member
It's $40
Because they are shaders. emotes and emblems and $20 is ridiculous for it. Frankly, the people that stuck around for Destiny's very rough start and kept up a large community deserve an extra perk like that.
Well, I hope that 40 bucks leads to a full game's worth of content than, or at least content on par with Word of Warcraft's expansions.
If not, than that is a rip off to buyers :l.
Most people didn't expect the cost for the shaders, emotes and emblems to be the same as a full DLC expansion.
StUnNeR H2K
Member
While it seems the internet has them back peddling, they seemed to have tripped in the process. $20 for 9 items? I was thinking more around $10, so a $49.99 price point for those who had all the content but wanted the TTK & CE digital goodies.
I'm a littles angry now about the situation but I'm still out. No clue how they could be this clueless. Seems the developers (Bungie) are so disconnected from what it really means to be a gaming consumer, because none of them should want this.
I do understand they need to make a profit and pay themselves, and I rightfully think they should be paid and paid well for success, but not like this. I would feel so dirty knowing the money in my check came from this.
Also... The karma of jumping ship from Microsoft for this... I bet that $60 Halo 3 ODST debacle looks like a gem compared to this.
I'm a littles angry now about the situation but I'm still out. No clue how they could be this clueless. Seems the developers (Bungie) are so disconnected from what it really means to be a gaming consumer, because none of them should want this.
I do understand they need to make a profit and pay themselves, and I rightfully think they should be paid and paid well for success, but not like this. I would feel so dirty knowing the money in my check came from this.
Also... The karma of jumping ship from Microsoft for this... I bet that $60 Halo 3 ODST debacle looks like a gem compared to this.
Just because you can do something, and people will pay for it, doesn't make it right.
I personally won't be touching anything to do with this game after getting burned with the base game and season pass, but they built a game based around loot, and I've seen what addiction can do to a man. Just look at Brad Shoemaker.
I think asking a customer who will have shelled out $140 on your content bare game for $20 more isn't the smoothest move, as an apology.
I personally won't be touching anything to do with this game after getting burned with the base game and season pass, but they built a game based around loot, and I've seen what addiction can do to a man. Just look at Brad Shoemaker.
I think asking a customer who will have shelled out $140 on your content bare game for $20 more isn't the smoothest move, as an apology.
"Why do I have to pay for something I already own?" almost immediately changed into "Why do I have to pay for something?" There are some people who won't be happy until this stuff is free, and there are others who won't be happy even then and they'll just move on to harping about something else in a game they don't play and have "deleted" 5 times.