SCOTUS strikes down gay marriage bans, legalizing marriage equality nationwide

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Huckabee is a known defender of child molestation. His opinion on the love and devotion of millions of the deeply passionate love gay and lesbian couples have for each should have no ruling. His own stance is against the "family values" he preaches for, lmao.
 
cirrhosis said:
Been surfing Gaming side and missed this amazing news. Didn't think it would happen this fast - the S.C. is on a roll!

Happy for my LGBT friends.
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At the end of the day the critics that said it was "too early" were wrong. Of course, I don't think anyone saw such a seismic shift in national opinion in a matter of 2 years. A shift that may have pushed Kennedy towards choosing humanity over religious imposition.
 
Majine said:
We've had marriage equality here in Sweden since 2009 and I can confirm that we haven't seen the end times or any sign of rapture since.

There is a small cloud in the air though, I'm gonna have to get back to you, GAF.
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Yeah but where did all that death metal come from then!? You guys are exporting the cultural apocalypse!

Swedish metal is fucking awesome. Opeth for life.
 
TheZink said:
I believe in marriage between a man and a woman only. I'm also a Christian and a pastor. Doesn't mean I hate gays. I disagree with them just as I would a adulterer or any other sin. I sin but I try not to live in a lifestyle of sin. Everyone has issues.
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So being gay is an issue with someones self?
 
This thread is about marriage equality finally becoming the rule of law across the country; let's not fill it with the wails of defeated bigots.

Congratulations my brothers and sisters!
 
TheZink said:
I believe God can bless a nation or not. Doesn't mean it will fall into destruction. I'm not going argue my beliefs on my phone. It's a pain to type on it.
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Well did you ever believe God blessed the USA? Because I don't see how he could have. Slavery was here until 1865, equal rights for races wasn't here until 1965. There is still mass amounts of inequality going on here and all over the world. Yet the world as a whole had never been more free and peaceful. The human race is better of than it's ever been, in spite of how much work we still need to do. So if God has blessed any nation in the past, there is no reason he shouldn't bless even more today.
 
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TheZink said:
I believe in marriage between a man and a woman only. I'm also a Christian and a pastor. Doesn't mean I hate gays. I disagree with them just as I would a adulterer or any other sin. I sin but I try not to live in a lifestyle of sin. Everyone has issues.
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Your christian marriage is untouched. This is about civil marriage. If you think yours is more "pure" than the other it's your problem and your religion's, but society isn't bound by religious law.
 
TheZink said:
I believe God can bless a nation or not. Doesn't mean it will fall into destruction. I'm not going argue my beliefs on my phone. It's a pain to type on it.
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Are you sure it's the phone and not your beliefs that is the limiting factor here? I think you realize you've not the foundation to build any sort of actual argument on.
 
bms2993 said:
All according to scripture in the bible. People didn't like Jesus? Flogged him? Cursed him? They wouldn't like me either.
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I'm not very religious, but Jesus was hated because he was a revolutionary trying to bring change, he was a radical threat to the religious powers at the time, he confronted systems of control, he didn't hang around with the rich people in the suburbs - he was poor and hung out with people who today would be on welfare and doing petty crimes for cash. This is what the bible states, so yes, this ruling is an example of what Jesus would be fighting for - equality and justice.

If you don't want to fight for another human to have the basic right of getting married, then you are not following a religion that preaches equality and love for all.
 
Majine said:
We've had marriage equality here in Sweden since 2009 and I can confirm that we haven't seen the end times or any sign of rapture since.

There is a small cloud in the sky though, I'm gonna have to get back to you, GAF.
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You don't have fucking awful gun culture, do you?
 
What a great, historic day. Kinda surprised marriage, fair housing, and Obamacare all went the right way. I didn't expect anything different for this ruling though with how Kennedy has been speaking about the issue recently. The close of the majority opinion was fantastic.

Between this and confederate flag stuff, the salt on my facebook will be overflowing.
 
onadesertedisland said:
The troubling thing is our country has continued to have to resort to perilous court cases to decide what should be without question for anyone that loves their fellow man. Today is a great day, one that is long coming, but why is it our history, a nation trumpeted as one of freedom and rights, gets those human rights so wrong so frequently and subsequently tears itself apart through vitriolic rhetoric appealing to bigots? The beauty of democracy is often marred by dark places of human nature. Through education and loving your neighbor are we able to suppress those ancient animalistic tendencies. I applaud our country for making this wrong right, but it saddens me that we do this time and time again. We are all humans for as much as we like to think we are either better or different from one another, I hope that one day we see through that illusion as the shackles that hold our species hostage.
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At the same time, I think in a sense it's preferable for civil rights issues to be solved by the courts, because it's bad precedent to leave them up to the will of the majority. Fundamental rights shouldn't be things the populace can vote on.
 
I'll never understand how anyone can oppose this. Even if I were religious (I was in the past, extremely), I'd be intelligent enough to see that I was definitively on the wrong side of history, and it would behoove these people so much more to just shut the fuck up and get on with their lives. If you genuinely think this spells chaos and destruction, you're a straight up fucking moron. I understand the desire to believe in a deity, but why worship a hateful God? How about you believe in a God who loves all people? Or if you're a Christian, try considering the actual teachings of Christ and stop focusing entirely on Old Testament nonsense.

I wonder if any major conservative politicians will try to make that jump today and be the one to express support contrary to party lines, because they know which way the wind is blowing. Mitt Romney did that with the confederate flag thing recently.
 
TheZink said:
Because he has a different opinion than others he gets banned? Ok. I happen to agree with him. I've seen more hate in the thread towards Christians and religious people than I have against gays. So should everyone be banned?
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I agree. I support marriage equality but I don't think banning GAFers who disagree with us is going to help anyone. It just makes this place even more of an echo chamber.
 
404Ender said:
But it's only civil marriage affected here, not religious.

Unless I'm misunderstanding the ruling, you (as a pastor) can still refuse to conduct the marriage ceremony for a gay couple in your church. This just eliminates a ban on them receiving a marriage license from the government, and all of the legal benefits afforded by that status.
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I understand what you are saying. I do hope that the government will not try and change that.
 
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