I'd come by today (off work at 7) but gotta be up at 5am to return to the grind.Patrick and I are going to play it today on that new weird cab
Fighting Games Weekly | June 29 - Jul 5 | Frauds Among U.S.
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Lostconfused
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Really it just seems a more advanced approach to blocking and understanding of the meta game. You can't hold down back 100% of the time in ASW games, but since any overhead attacks are so much slower than lows that anything that comes out later than 5 or 6 or however many frames is an overhead. So you only have to block low for those few frames before switching over to blocking high.
Being able to auto pilot a high low mix up like that might be a bit braindead at a low level. But I don't see how that's different from studying frame data and understanding whats an absolutely safe attack, poke, string, whatever. Not to mention it will only work on someone auto piloting their pressure as well, which is what fighting games seem to be all about as in penalizing a predictable player.
Edit: I don't see how any decent player isn't doing this while playing. This is like way simpler than LK saying "Oh I just know the gattlings/cancells of the characters so I know what to expect and when to IB and punish something unsafe". Which sounds way more insane/difficult and what I would expect from ASW games and how crazy they get.
Yeah, I see that now after pixelish reposted the text.
KidA Seven
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I made a new thread for Topanga Cup.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=170783954#post170783954
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=170783954#post170783954
Huw_Dawson
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Everyone panicking about MadCatz:
Rock Band is awesome, they will be fine.
EDIT: LOL @ r/Kappa
Rock Band is awesome, they will be fine.
EDIT: LOL @ r/Kappa
Huw_Dawson
Member
God dammit double post. 
Professor Beef
Banned
People like train wrecks and gossip, who knew
I thought Mike was the head mod and had immunity from that?
The Thick Asian posts had a lot to do with that...
Well alternating guard isn't the OS. The OS comes at the jump out option. In Guilty Gear there's a lot less layers, in BB and Persona you layer throw in there as well to make it a beefy ass OS.
What makes it work is that unless somebody intentionally adjusts pressure to deal with this type OS is you just OS your problems away. If they do stop to deal with the OS, that leaves you better options to get out.
Persona is a good example. If you run tight pressure and mix up all the time fuzzy jump solves basically all of it, so you have to stop and check it. I was watching Shikki and Souji, two of the highest level Persona players that exist. Shikki was doing tight pressure and Souji was OSing it until Shikki did a fuzzy jump check and hit Souji. The next time Shikki was pressuring Souji, he did delay 2B to check fuzzy jump again and Souji dead ass threw him out of it. He understood his opponent was checking for OS and decided to mash instead. The next time Shikki started pressure he would backdash during pressure looking for mash along with other OS, and that frightened Souji into just blocking until he got thrown.
Doing "rhythm blocking" vs high/low isn't in and of itself an OS. Layering another input like jump into it is, and in the case of fuzzy jump in Persona/BB you layer throw onto it as well. It's all pretty simple but has pretty sizable implications on the metagame if players are good enough at it. You still need to know all the shit to know when to safely do these options anyways.
Anyways you're right up until layered options become a thing. Then you deal with those layers and it's back to fighting game basics.
Nah, it's not just that. Tournament results gets posted on Kappa as well.
i'm pretty sure the lead mod of r/kappa is just playing a prank on them. don't take this too seriously
Yup. It's funny.
Lostconfused
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Well I guess that's GG, they do mention that jump input can be added as an extra input but don't actually make you practice it. In whatever limited situations they present you with, you don't need more than varying your block height. But that's kind of the point of the missions, they are just there to put you into situations and make you think about how to deal with them and what are your options. Venom's billiard ball hell is my new personal nightmare.
Either way I really liked that section of training/tutorial. Fighting games are way too hard already, the less I have to worry about or guess the better it is for me.
KidA Seven
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I wanted to let you guys know of the stream, but gaf was down for a long time. There was a 1 hour stream of Daigo playing and learning Guilty Gear Xrd on Nico Nico in the middle of the night. Machabo was teaching him, and I think he's going to be teaching Daigo the game.
It's a weekly show. The next episode will feature Jyobin as a guest.
edit: It was uploaded to Nico Nico.
It's a weekly show. The next episode will feature Jyobin as a guest.
edit: It was uploaded to Nico Nico.
Who is the lead mod? I thought it was mike
Maiiky made the subreddit.
a message from the moderators of /r/Kappa
Our Demands.
1, Smash will here by be renounced at EVO, every mention of it will be banned at EVO.
2, Mike Watson will commit to a life of Jesus so he can have Super Arcade in the Azusa and pay back 100's of stolen dollars.
3, Noel Brown will be banned from the all FGC events. Because NOEL BROWN BEATS WOMEN.
4, Marvel is hereby DEAD.
5, Mike Ross will stop referring to himself as African American and will hereby will be refereed, IN ALL ACCOUNTS, as Michael Rosse.
Our Demands.
1, Smash will here by be renounced at EVO, every mention of it will be banned at EVO.
2, Mike Watson will commit to a life of Jesus so he can have Super Arcade in the Azusa and pay back 100's of stolen dollars.
3, Noel Brown will be banned from the all FGC events. Because NOEL BROWN BEATS WOMEN.
4, Marvel is hereby DEAD.
5, Mike Ross will stop referring to himself as African American and will hereby will be refereed, IN ALL ACCOUNTS, as Michael Rosse.
thats just stream monsters acting in their own self-interest
Which is bad because...?
Lostconfused
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It's not bad, its just that motivation is selfish. It's not purely altruistic.
Absolutely nothing is purely altruistic. Also lol at Rand lingo
So what? If there's a benefit, does it matter what the motivations are?
In b4 Immanuel Kant
Bullshit
I would say their actions result in a lateral move at best for the community.
Give examples right now, find an example of something where someone does a positive act without receiving anything positive to themselves including self satisfaction in doing that action
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Fuck r/kappa
Nobody seeks out self-satisfaction when giving to charity, lol. Nobody says "I'm going to do this so I can get endorphins to my brain" when donating to a good cause. People aren't robots. People give to charity out of pure altruism all the time. Only a fucking cylon would think otherwise.
Edit: okay, cylons and this guy: http://m.noisey.vice.com/blog/anarc...-year-olds-through-punk?utm_source=noiseyfbus
CountBlack
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Vulva, you going to the Waterloo tournament tomorrow?
El Sabroso
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Philosophy Discussion Weekly | Altruism among Us
edit@count: I can't. If you're going tell Ian and Gary I say what's up though
Are you insane? You think someone gets zero satisfaction in knowing they did the right thing to help a cause?
Are you insane? You think someone gets zero satisfaction in knowing they did the right thing to help a cause?
Parallax Scroll
Banned
kappa is denying hard working Americans spots in capcom cup
Read the post. I'm saying they don't seek out that satisfaction as a motivating factor.
Professor Beef
Banned
I say we take affirmative action in making sure America gets its correct quota of capcom cup spots to ensure a more diverse tournament environment!
/s
I still disagree, the motivation is in knowing what they're doing is a good cause. This means the good action is in direct correlation with satisfaction of doing the right thing. Furthemore, the discussion is about if something can be 100% altruistic. I said it's impossible, you claimed bullshit. Even if 99.99999% of their reasoning was without selfish intent, there will always be that fraction of a percent of knowing they did the right thing and satisfaction within it.
Putting this back to r/kappa, even if their action is 99.99999% selfish, helping someone get an opportunity they may not have had still sounds like a good thing to me.
So who was sending Pugera to CEO if r/kappa hadn't?
Actually, I'm not sure about that. Twitch used to be send out notable players regularly on a tournament by tournament basis, but ever since they bought GG, (Evil Geniuses are a subsidiary of GG), they haven't sent a player since.
/r/Kappa was filling that void, and I'm not sure if they stopped somebody like Twitch would resume. Twitch now has an active team to support.
why do you hate r/kappa so much?
So everybody who does a good thing is doing it for the self-satisfaction they'll feel, rather than for the simple purpose of doing a good thing? Where do you live that people are like this?