Ah, well im in the clear then. As I haven't jumped to the conclusion that women are incapable of harming or being threatening to men, ever.
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Video shows FSU QB throwing a punch at a woman at a bar
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Ah, well im in the clear then. As I haven't jumped to the conclusion that women are incapable of harming or being threatening to men, ever.
whew.
How do you know this?
Yet again I don't really know what we're talking about here. Think we're arguing about different things or something...
Lovely Salsa
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How many females are capable of K.Oing a guy in a single punch? A guy twice her size
Firelord Chargrilled
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Yeah I wouldn't call someone beating the shit out of you a danger at all.
So let's see
you said you will kill someone for threatening your family but Get the shit beat of you and and not do a thing ? That's some fantastic logic there buddy
MrToughPants
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Unless she has estrogen blockers and is on test she isn't doing any damage with that tiny bone structure and lack of type 2 muscle fibres.
It escalates because you're stereotyping women as weak, or incapable of causing harm. If you weren't, why would you have mentioned the sex, or the "average discrepancy"?
The real average is 0, because most people don't punch people.
lol...this has got to be a joke, right?
Or are you saying only women who dope are capable of real physical harm?
Definitely not doing that all, but whatever you say my man.
I don't think it needs to be explicitly stated to draw the conclusion that to some posters him being charged and her being the (nearly) blameless victim is the only correct outcome to this situation.
So, what are you saying? And what does sex or average discrepancy have to do with it?
EDIT: You seem to be feigning ignorance, but don't seem to be willing to treat women who punch as a threat.
Literally everyone.
Taekwondo - on a note, I got eliminated today by someone who I had a muscle, weight, and height advantage on: he was just a better trained, faster fighter than me.
It's a positive feedback cycle here: society tells women they are "by default weak when it comes to throwing a punch" -> less women train and fight -> society tells women they are "by default weak when it comes to throwing a punch" -> etc.
I think you're being severely unrealistic in discussing this. At no point have I said, and I was who they were quoting, that women are incapable of causing harm.
mugurumakensei
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Had to be on on anti-estrogen pills clearly.
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To those saying women's punches can't do shit to him. Here's the thing. Punches don't have to be hard to damage. They just have to hit the right place.
You can die from falling down wrong. Like it or not, even at their toughest, human bodies are fraught with weakness.
Lovely Salsa
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What. You quoted something where none of the responses were directed at you.
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So, they aren't capable?
mugurumakensei
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Damn, so she could take on Pacquiao.
Do you know who Houdini is? You don't know what can happen when you punch someone. It's why you shouldn't. What we do know is she threw the first punch, kicked or kneed him in the groin, got punched, and walked away with a blackeye and other minor injuries.
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So, she was able to kill him because of the 3 inch height difference? Or the 2 pound difference?
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Now, lets say... because I see people jumping to conclusions, that it wouldn't mean I'd win flat out because I'm a male, and women are weak, etc etc. But I'd definitely have an advantage. Whether or not that would pan out, and be a victory? Who knows.
A popped vein killed him, I was just highlighting that they were more or less the same size.
lol "females"
Also, your logic is flawed from the start. Am I supposed to assume anyone threatening me is me, and that I have an advantage because me with testosterone > me with estrogen?
Someone acting wildly can be capable of anything.
Lovely Salsa
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Few are, vast majority are not
Exactly, who knows. Which is why a threatening action from a female should be regarded on the same terms as a threatening action from a male.
EDIT: And you pointed out something completely irrelevant. Nice work!
Lovely Salsa
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You said that males and females are equal in strenght, did you not?
Yeah I wouldn't call someone beating the shit out of you a danger at all.
So let's see
you said you will kill someone for threatening your family but Get the shit beat of you and and not do a thing ? That's some fantastic logic there buddy
No, I said I'd probably go apeshit on a home invader.
If someone punches me who cares. Walk away. Not worth it to fight back.
So, some are? Just the ones who don't have as much estrogen, or type 2 muscle fibers? (which I assume you'll be able to explain based on the footage we have)
If only there were a way that things wouldn't get so complicated, with so many variables....
I did not.
I said all humans are capable of causing severe physical harm. The average man might be able to do it faster, or with fewer punches...but when one punch can mean death, and when physical harm is physical harm, regardless of how quickly it's carried, I don't see how it's relevant.
And speaking in averages is the same as speaking in stereotypes, when it comes to a group of people decided on by their genitalia or preferred gender.
Lovely Salsa
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What are you even talking about? My steroid comment? It was more to show that men have a clear advantage physically. Like you would have if you went on steroids vs someone not on it
Brianimaniac
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Both parties learned good lessons the hard way.
Physical strength isn't the only variable directing the amount of damage one can do with a punch.
I'd argue, and most other people who practiced martial arts, that technique is far more important.
I know a few girls from my muay thai gym that could KO me with a well placed punch.
The fact that I am a man and they are women is irrelevant.
Because you know the testosterone level of all men, and how that impacts their ability to be a threat?
This is ridiculous.
And you're still speaking in generalities. Most men should have an advantage over most women. That's not how you should think about any group of people. Otherwise you're short changing the exceptions to your bullshit rules.
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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Almost all of them, provided they know how to throw a punch properly. You can knock a person out with a jab provided you hit them in the right place at the right time.
That aside, there is no way in Hell that this guy is twice her size. He weighs 177: she's easily in the 130-150 range judging by her size relative to the people around her.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
She was being belligerent, threatened him, and punched him, so I really don't think he should be charged with anything, unless the two of them are being charged for fighting. Ideally he would have walked away when she became aggressive and threatened him, but since she punched first I don't think he should be the only one being charged.
Lovely Salsa
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So why aren's we seeing men fighting women in boxing/ufc?
The strongest men and the strongest women probably have a discrepancy equal to the average man and the average woman. Can you only think in generalities and stereotypes?
EDIT: 3 seconds to search, find, copy, paste. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0rYR0EO_HY
Because of course it's not the only variable.
It wouldn't be fair, but that doesn't mean every woman, or most woman, aren't capable of doing damage with their fists.
But to elaborate on your comment, I'd also argue the top women of each UFC's weight divisions could probably compete with some of the men. Ronda Rousey for example would probably demolish the average fighter (at equal weight I mean).
Lovely Salsa
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But I do have an advantage over most women...
being 6'1 and soon to be 200 lbs Id argue that most of them wouldnt want to get in a fight with me. Even tho I never fought in my life
gutter_trash
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in gif 1: he is pulling himself towards the bar and his shoulder squeezes her against the bar
anyone in a bar would go "WTF dude?"
the guy is 100% at fault
anyone in a bar would go "WTF dude?"
the guy is 100% at fault
Shao Kahn on the Lawn
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Aside from the fact that no athletic commission would sanction it? There are too many social taboos associated with striking women for it to ever even be considered, let alone tried. The first organization that tried it would be crucified the first time a women got obliterated by her opponent even if it was a fair fight.
You asked, and I clarified that I never said women can't cause harm to men. In the situation, in the OP? It takes a bit much to be threatened by a woman, due to the general physical differences, or say, an old man. I wouldn't punch her. At most, if I was pissed, and drunk, a drink *maybe* would have been thrown in her face. Generally speaking, confrontation with men, testosterone starts running, egos at their max, which will generally escalate a situation even more so, especially with alcohol. That is what slides it into more of a violent and physically capable threat. Wrestling rhonda rhousey isn't the exact same as having a drunken punch out at a bar. Thats a fight, with rules, and regulations. Re: Who knows? A leg choke hold tap out isn't really happening near the bar stools.
But that's about as far as it would have gone, there was no real threat there, I wouldn't feel a threat to my safety, enough to justify a punch to the face. But hey, I've been hit before and managed to not give a woman a black eye for doing so.
And before you say it again, no one should punch anyone, ever.
I thought it was 50/50 from the gifs, but watched the video after a while and now I think it's 100% her fault, crazy that he got charged for this while she didn't.
And I bet if I put out an add there would be thousands of women ready to beat the shit out of you.
How are you not understanding that you're being sexist right now?
Christopher
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Lots of garbage here - so now your throwing drinks? That's gonna deesclate the problem
Stopped reading when you compared women to old men, sorry.
If you switched the guy to her right (who is much smaller...perhaps even "unusually small lol), there would be no story. And I bet that with 1 hour of training she could throw a punch that hits just as hard as guy to her right.
And here we go...
I'd like to see you fight a woman with some actual training who doesn't buy into the "women are weak by default" bullshit or the misconstruing of the ratios of potential maximum strength as constant ratios of measurable strength.
Have some respect and stop perpetuating this hurtful stereotype.
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