Mental Health |OT| Depression & Co.

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Well, for what it's worth, I've never signed up for a store credit card. It doesn't matter if the benefits are great I just ... don't want another credit card. You know? I'm sure that's the situation for TONS of people who come through your lane, it's definitely not something personal!

And we can't all do a great job at everything all the time. Luckily you've done a great job in the past and have plenty of time to do a great job in the future :). And in the overall sense, I do think you're doing a great job!

I understand. I get some customers who doesn't want to sign up for a reason like that. I don't care whether they sign up for one or not. It's entirely up to them whether they want the benefits or not. I don't want to force upon their throats on signing up for one...if this statement makes any sense lol.

But I always get asked by an employer or a manager if I'm asking the customers "May I put this on your JCP credit card?" before the transactions. Before, I didn't since I've noticed the customers had already made up their minds on what form of payment they want to pay their stuff. I've started to ask them even though they've made up their minds, but still want to stick with their form of payment and that's fine with me. It's just, I get the feeling that the employers or managers wants me to try harder.
 
I don't know what to do.

A friend works at the library, and regularly asks me for recommendations/help when it comes to their gaming selection. They just started getting next-gen stuff.

Anyways, she said that they need to start paying me as a consultant, and also let me know about a couple of part-time (up to 32 hours bi-weekly) jobs that are available on a temporary basis. She wants me to apply for them and will put in a good word. The problem is that I'm unsure if I want to, and the deadline is today.

It'd be nice to get out of the house a bit, but I'm not good at routines and don't know if I'd be able to go in every time they call me. I still have my good days and my bad days, and I just applied for disability in the hopes of getting benefits and a small income by September. I don't sleep all that well, and my mental health fluctuates. Sometimes I don't have much energy. I'd also have to deal with people and sometimes work alone at a branch 20 minutes away, which is worrying anxiety-wise.

If I'm hired for this job, it'll pay about the same amount but likely won't have the benefits I need and I don't know if I'll be able to do it anyways. I don't want to jeopardize what I've applied for.

You can only make upwards of $200 per month before it jeopardizes your disability, and the job pays $18/hr.
 
I don't know what to do.

A friend works at the library, and regularly asks me for recommendations/help when it comes to their gaming selection. They just started getting next-gen stuff.

Anyways, she said that they need to start paying me as a consultant, and also let me know about a couple of part-time (up to 32 hours bi-weekly) jobs that are available on a temporary basis. She wants me to apply for them and will put in a good word. The problem is that I'm unsure if I want to, and the deadline is today.

It'd be nice to get out of the house a bit, but I'm not good at routines and don't know if I'd be able to go in every time they call me. I still have my good days and my bad days, and I just applied for disability in the hopes of getting benefits and a small income by September. I don't sleep all that well, and my mental health fluctuates. Sometimes I don't have much energy. I'd also have to deal with people and sometimes work alone at a branch 20 minutes away, which is worrying anxiety-wise.

If I'm hired for this job, it'll pay about the same amount but likely won't have the benefits I need and I don't know if I'll be able to do it anyways. I don't want to jeopardize what I've applied for.

You can only make upwards of $200 per month before it jeopardizes your disability, and the job pays $18/hr.

Remember that even if you apply and they offer the job to you, you can still decline it, so don't think that you have to make the decision whether you want the job right now. You can always apply now and make the decision later. It's better to keep the option open. I'd definitely recommend at least applying.

And in regards to actually taking the job if it's offered to you, obviously you know you better than I know you, but in my experience, going to work or really doing anything at all other than sitting at home by yourself massively improves your mental state. In my opinion, it'd be an excellent decision.

Either way, congratulations on the opportunity! Regardless of the outcome, that seems pretty exciting.
 
Remember that even if you apply and they offer the job to you, you can still decline it, so don't think that you have to make the decision whether you want the job right now. You can always apply now and make the decision later. It's better to keep the option open. I'd definitely recommend at least applying.

And in regards to actually taking the job if it's offered to you, obviously you know you better than I know you, but in my experience, going to work or really doing anything at all other than sitting at home by yourself massively improves your mental state. In my opinion, it'd be an excellent decision.

Either way, congratulations on the opportunity! Regardless of the outcome, that seems pretty exciting.

I agree. Staying busy and achieving something helps my mental state. I just have to get motivated to do so.
 
Okay. One last question. How do you think love manifests in the brain? As in physiologically..

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Magic?
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For me though...
It'll sound horrible, but...
It's just something I told myself existed whenever I had the opportunity...
...Which wasn't very often.
 
Jeez, I'm sorry to hear that Zeyphersan. Do you have any read on why they're making fun of you? Do they make fun of other people, too? Is this something you can bring up with a supervisor?

That's simply no fun. People can be quite mean.

It could be a variety of reasons. Honestly, at this point, I'm over it. Now that the real shifts have started and we're not in training anymore I don't really interact with them, so it's sort of the problem that solved itself. Let's be real: I was never going to be friends with these girls anyway, but it would have been nice to be on good terms.
 
I've had no luck finding a therapist after last quarter of school ended and I became unable to meet with the one at my university since I'm not taking Summer classes. I contacted quite a few that my insurance covers, the majority never responded. One responded saying he was booked, one responded saying she's no longer covered under my insurance since she moved elsewhere, and one responded and had an appointment set up with me but I decided to back out when I realized she operated out of her own house (it seemed....somewhat unprofessional). I might set up another appointment with her if I don't have success within the next day or two.
 
I know that getting out would probably help me, but I don't know if I want to lock myself in to upwards of 32 hours bi-weekly. I already earn about $175/month from writing, so if I was to take that job it would jeopardize my chance at getting disability and the benefits I need.

Disability should help me get better, whereas taking the job is a big unknown.
 
I understand. I get some customers who doesn't want to sign up for a reason like that. I don't care whether they sign up for one or not. It's entirely up to them whether they want the benefits or not. I don't want to force upon their throats on signing up for one...if this statement makes any sense lol.

But I always get asked by an employer or a manager if I'm asking the customers "May I put this on your JCP credit card?" before the transactions. Before, I didn't since I've noticed the customers had already made up their minds on what form of payment they want to pay their stuff. I've started to ask them even though they've made up their minds, but still want to stick with their form of payment and that's fine with me. It's just, I get the feeling that the employers or managers wants me to try harder.

There's a chance asking them about the card will just become this sort of disconnected reflex over time. That's what happened when I had to ask for charity donations for two months at the grocery store I worked at. I just put on my 100%-bullshit face just for that one question, and it usually managed to insulate me from caring if they said yes or no :)

I would've liked to just stop asking, but like you said, there's often pressure from the higher ups...

It's going to take me some time and effort to really process all of this post.
Until I manage to do that - I just want to say thank you.

Of course, man. Please do keep us posted.

It could be a variety of reasons. Honestly, at this point, I'm over it. Now that the real shifts have started and we're not in training anymore I don't really interact with them, so it's sort of the problem that solved itself. Let's be real: I was never going to be friends with these girls anyway, but it would have been nice to be on good terms.

Ah that's good to hear! Yes, it's nice to be on good terms, but I've learned over the years that you can't make everyone like you. It's just not possible. Which sucks, but hey, we must adjust to it I suppose.

I've had no luck finding a therapist after last quarter of school ended and I became unable to meet with the one at my university since I'm not taking Summer classes. I contacted quite a few that my insurance covers, the majority never responded. One responded saying he was booked, one responded saying she's no longer covered under my insurance since she moved elsewhere, and one responded and had an appointment set up with me but I decided to back out when I realized she operated out of her own house (it seemed....somewhat unprofessional). I might set up another appointment with her if I don't have success within the next day or two.

For what it's worth, I had a psychiatrist who worked out of his home and it was set up such that a wing of his home was a separate office space, disconnected from the actual home, set up exactly like a normal psych office - waiting room, office, etc. There's a good chance she had a similar set up.

So maybe you could give her a second shot, and if not, best of luck on the continuing search. Unfortunately therapists and psychiatrists can be in short supply in certain areas, but I'm confident that you can find someone if you keep looking.

I know that getting out would probably help me, but I don't know if I want to lock myself in to upwards of 32 hours bi-weekly. I already earn about $175/month from writing, so if I was to take that job it would jeopardize my chance at getting disability and the benefits I need.

Disability should help me get better, whereas taking the job is a big unknown.

I agree with Kipp, though, that there's no harm in applying. At worst, you decline the job and tell them it's due to health circumstances. It'll give you some more time to decide while keeping both options open.

<3
 

Close. Your brain is a drug factory that releases stuff that make you act a bit crazy.
These normalise over time, I think.

Dopamine is linked to the highs of romance.
Lack there of is evident in Clinical Depression.

Now if you're clinically depressed, and wondering where the love is...

One of the most stressful life events going, according to research, is the loss of a partner. So it's do or die time. Adapt. or fall away.
 
I feel like i'm about to die in a day or two, that or the process that takes me to the cremation chamber begins. And i don't care/i am not afraid... the only thing that bothers me is the fact that my family would need to pay for all of the related expenses that come with that. Wish i had money saved up to save them the trouble.
 
I feel like i'm about to die in a day or two, that or the process that takes me to the cremation chamber begins. And i don't care/i am not afraid... the only thing that bothers me is the fact that my family would need to pay for all of the related expenses that come with that. Wish i had money saved up to save them the trouble.

Why?
 

I've been having... health issues for about 2 or 3 years now, but they've recently gotten worse however i don't feel like posting it out in the open. The thing is that since i recently graduated and i had med attention due to school. Now that i'm out of it and looking for a job i don't have med attention nor the money to go to a particular doctor. I don't live in the U.S so that makes it even harder.

EDIT: Oh what the hell, i'll spill the proverbial beans.

It started about 3 years ago. I used to go to school from 7 am - 2 pm afterwards i would head for the gym from 3 pm - 5 pm, now during all that time i would only go and "pee" but would not allow myself to go "number two" at the school/gym because i was grossed out. So this particular day i really felt the urge to go... but i was about to end my training session and decided to hold strong, when all of a sudden the urge stopped. And i got home and could not defecate, it lasted about two weeks w/o any relief. Went to the doctor they did an X-ray and said everything was fine and they gave me fiber i think, which i think didn't really help much. And ever since then i've been having issues with defecating, i've gone to take X-rays of my abdomen and i'm literally always full of shit. I've taken the colonoscopy prep several times to empty myself out. Sometimes it works others it doesn't, i have had several doctors see me and try and find out what i have but so far no luck.

I currently feel like i'm going to explode, or my intestines are about to burst open and spill inside me... there's this impending feeling of doom. I've been taking cheap laxatives that don't seem to be helping. And can't currently afford another colonoscopy prep. That's w/o even taking into account my issues with food (gastroparesis).
 
I guess I'll apply

It requires someone with good customer service skills, though, and I don't have that. Also, if I do get it, I'll have to forego the benefits I need from disability.
 
Today is one of those days where I have to repeat "I'm not a bad person" over and over again and hope that it sticks. It usually doesn't. My brain believes what it wants to believe and life goes on.
 
I've been having issues lately where I feel the world is out to get me. I feel at work. I feel it with my friends. I feel it with my family.

I don't know how to resolve these issues. It's flared up in some truly challenging ways in my life. I'm trying to get an appointment to see a therapist. It's just so hard to live like this. I don't feel that I can accurately sense reality. I don't know if I can trust my own instincts.

I need some help before I cause more damage to my own life. I know what I feel is wrong, but I can't stop feeling this way.
 
I haven't posted an update in a while.

Last Monday I went back to the doctor. I was having nutrition/lipid problems, but the main focus was my ADHD since that was affecting my ability to hold a job. Anyway, I was having major trouble sleeping without taking some kind of sleep aid like Tylenol/Advil PM and thought it was due to the Adderall I was on (15mg at the time). As for how the Adderall was managing my ADHD symptoms, it was okay, definitely not where I wanted to be, but not as bad as not being on anything.

The doctor increased my Adderall to 20mg, and I'm doing much better now. My girlfriend (lives with me) has noticed it too, so it's not just in my head. My doctor also told me to take 6mg of melatonin with the Tylenol/Advil PM before bed, and after two weeks, try just the melatonin without the Tylenol/Advil PM and see how it goes. She said the insomnia was most likely due to stress (lost my job about a month ago, trying to get a new one) and that the adderall should be worn off by then. She also put me on niacin and baby aspirin (morning) for the lipid/nutrition problems, but that part isn't really the focus of the Mental Health thread.

Anyway this seems to be working for me for the most part. I haven't really found anything if this is related, and it's probably just my allergies, but over the last few days my throat gets congested and I have difficulty breathing, and am coughing/clearing my throat a lot. I take a decongestant, and drink water, usually goes away after a while, but sometimes comes back later. Sometimes it has gone away on it's own. I doubt this is related to Adderall at all, but I'm also on Pristiq. Is this most likely just allergies like I think it is? I did move to a new apartment the other day, so that could have something to do with it.
 
Even as an adult, if I was living with family, I felt burdened by their expectations of my behavior in the house, my desire not to bother them with music, guests, or other personal activities, and the need to check in before a certain time or be home, even though nobody cared about any of these things. Being in your own space can be very liberating, and get rid of a lot of stress. As for loneliness, sometimes I'd feel more alone when a bunch of people were home if no one wanted to do anything together, even if it was as simple as watching TV in the same room.

Yeah I think this is exactly why I need to move out. It's got to the point where I feel I have to let them know whenever I'm leaving the house, even if it's just for a walk. And I never have friends over.


You and I are in the exact same boat. I'm moving out of my parent's house around August/September and I'm trying to move into my own place. I don't have any friends, so it really will just be me alone in an apartment. I don't know how that's going to affect me, but probably negatively

Still though, being in this house would be far worse than leaving. Gotta pick the lesser of two evils

I've sort of accepted that things will get worse for a while, but I'm sure once we get used to it it will be so much better. Plus I'm hoping it will give a sense of purpose to me. Hungry? It's on me to do shopping. House looking nasty? It's on me to clean it. There's a lot of life skills I've missed out on being spoiled living at home. Hope you get on ok dude.

It can also give you some much needed space. Your space.

True. I think a lot of my worries are actually settling the sale, moving out, buying all the stuff I need and settling in. Hopefully once I stop freaking out and doing that stuff I'll be on cloud nine.

There are up and down sides to living alone, but as long as you stay open to it, it will at the very least be a big learning experience. Loneliness is profoundly unpleasant but I also believe it's a deeply valuable emotion; nothing has motivated me to think long and hard about what I need from life, what I need from other people, and how I can get it quite like feeling lonely. Really, everyone has periods of loneliness, it's natural, but much of the time we reflexively try to shut it out (or drown it out with alcohol) or avoid it because it's just so damn unpleasant.

A tip from my year of living alone to yours: make sure you get out of the house every day. At least go for a half hour walk. I had trouble getting sucked into holes of never leaving, even though that made everything feel worse and the loneliness just grow and grow.

On the other hand, there's a wonderful freedom to living alone. Nobody else's needs to worry about, just suiting your own living space to your desires. It can be quite nice

Thank you!
 
Man, there are some absolutely infuriating views and opinions in that thread on "Belgian woman, 24, granted right to die by euthanasia over suicidal thoughts" (by the way, I should put a trigger warning on that link. Frankly, it's a pretty toxic environment in there for anyone)

While I know we deal with mental illness (and Depression & Co.) in this thread and trying to help people improve their lives and find ways to deal with things...
As someone with a living will, the idea that there are people in that thread who think they know better than individuals, and numerous medical professionals, about what decisions are appropriate for a person to take... and, further than that, the idea that there are some people who are clearly of the idea of "living is always better than not living in any and every circumstance, because, gee, you never know, maybe they'll find something eventually" (noting that this isn't limited solely to mental health/depression, but a whole range of physical conditions) is absolutely terrifying to me.

Seriously, my living will better be enough to keep people from keeping me hooked up to a bunch of machines to keep me "alive" because "Well, gee, you never know..."
 
Hello, Metal Health GAF! I saw the Belgium thread (mentioned above) & realized I haven't been by in a long time.

I've moved to be close to the University where I'll be pursuing an MFA starting in a couple of months. A very exciting life reboot; not bad for a crazy old man like me!

Trying to meet new people and just be open to new things. It is not my specialty, but I really want to make a go of this.

I've been stable for, oh, thirty months or so--a personal record. Took a long damned time to get here, but it feels pretty good now.
 
I highly recommend everyone here read. "Brain Maker" The microbiome in our intestine is directly related to the brain. Having a leaky gut or not having the proper prebiotics can wreak havoc on the brain.
 
Having been rid of his navy-issued weapon since I was an infant, my father has returned home with a gun again. I've always held an appreciation for the mechanical and engineering aspects of weaponry, fascinated by the sheer power a single shot generates and how this man-made piece of metal can withstand such a destructive force. I love looking at models and pictures, held several in my hands, and been around them by virtue of being in a heavily military family.

But now there's one within arm's reach, flimsy lock be damned, and that does worry me a bit. I'm not doing too well right now, but not suicidally so. Yet, as I held it in my hands, one of the first things my brain told me was "Well, at least you have an easier way out now."
 
Sounds like you are experiencing a manic episode.

I'm sorry to hear you're suffering, QuiteWhittle. Your appointment is Monday, as in tomorrow? I hope you're able to make it there, and if you're not, please seek emergency care immediately.

It sounds as though isolation in your apartment isn't helping. Could you go for a walk or bike or run or talk to someone on the phone?

Thanks for the help and concern guys. Turns out I had some ear infection that was compressing the facial nerve and my anxiety turned it into a nightmare. I'll probably still start seeing a therapist/psychologist for my regular, overanxious thoughts but I'm doing much better now that I know my aliments weren't completely in my head.
 
Shit... Well, it's definitely clear at this point that I'm slipping backwards significantly. I'm not actively miserable like I was previously, but I'm just going through the days in total apathy without any of that spark of life and happiness to just be alive that I got to experience for about a month after my meds first kicked in. And that kind of makes it all the more frustrating, since I got that little taste of what it felt like to be happy.

I'm a bit clueless on what to do. Nothing's changed since that month where I was happy, that I've noticed at least. I just kind of slipped back into my old mental state seemingly without cause. I know there's probably some cause somewhere, but nothing that I'm aware of.

I've also started drinking a bit again, which isn't great. Definitely not as much as I was when I was in my darkest places and definitely not a worrying/unhealthy amount at the moment, but it's mildly foreboding that I'm feeling that urge to drink whenever I've got the time to.

On the plus side, now that I'm back in this headspace, I get to spend more time with you lovely folks in this thread. I didn't really feel like I fit in so well in here when I was feeling excellent, but I did miss posting in here.
 
I take back what I said in my previous post. I feel pretty much just as bad as I ever did before I started my meds I think. Incredibly tired, miserable just being in my own head, back hurting way more than it does when I'm in a good mood, etc.
Really hope this is just some weird temporary thing...
 
I take back what I said in my previous post. I feel pretty much just as bad as I ever did before I started my meds I think. Incredibly tired, miserable just being in my own head, back hurting way more than it does when I'm in a good mood, etc.
Really hope this is just some weird temporary thing...

Drinking is not the answer. Drinking and psych meds don't mix. Trust me.
 
Drinking is not the answer. Drinking and psych meds don't mix. Trust me.

One good thing I've got going for me is that I literally don't have any free time during the week since I'm working 60 hours and exercising whenever I'm not working. So luckily I don't really have time to drink except for on weekends, and even then I stay pretty busy.
Regardless, the drinking itself isn't the main issue, it's mostly just of one of the most noticeable symptoms of the depression creeping back on.

But anyways, thanks for the encouragement. I'll try my best to take it easy.
 
Update: Got a prescription for anxiety/anti-depressant medicine. Getting a referral to a therapist. I'll update you guys again after I see this therapist.
 
Update: Got a prescription for anxiety/anti-depressant medicine. Getting a referral to a therapist. I'll update you guys again after I see this therapist.

Congratulations! It's a great feeling to know you're finally on the path to getting better.
 
Oh, by the way, for what it's worth, my regular doctor switched me onto the generic of Xanax (alprazolam), which is a thrice-daily, "as needed" (and most days I've definitely felt I needed it thrice - morning, afternoon, evening)

I guess it's working better than either of the previous two.
Still dealing with a whole bunch of issues, though...

And still trying to get set up with a psychiatrist.
Put in a call to another yesterday, they took my information at the billing office, will call me back "in around 10 days" to set up an "initial intake" appointment, and go from there...
So, it's something, I guess...
We'll see...

Just trying to hold it together, day by day...
And most days, failing more often than not.
 
I highly recommend everyone here read. "Brain Maker" The microbiome in our intestine is directly related to the brain. Having a leaky gut or not having the proper prebiotics can wreak havoc on the brain.
Perlmutter is a goddam quack.

Perlmutter has always been unorthodox in his approach to medicine. For well over a decade, and long before he was a household name, he has claimed to offer his readers “miraculous” — his word — treatments capable of preventing or reversing all sorts of devastating medical problems. He has also claimed that supplements and “detoxification” regimens — available for purchase on his various websites — are crucial to optimizing brain health. Earlier this year, he stated that the conversation about childhood vaccines and autism is “ill-defined,” and that parents should ask their pediatricians about spacing out their children’s vaccinations — an approach the CDC disagrees with, and which 90 percent of doctors surveyed by the journal Pediatrics in 2013 said would put children and communities at greater risk of contracting preventable diseases.

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2015/06/problem-with-the-grain-brain-doctor.html

https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/gut-check/
 
Went and had my first appointment with my Therapist on the 2nd. I don't know what I was expecting going in. We talked for like 45 minutes and suggested when I feel anxious and get nagging thoughts to just rip the emotion from them and view them as just thoughts. That and to do breathing exercises. Tried the thought thing it works sometimes but not all the time just yet and breathing does help out quite a bit.

Other then that I had blood drawn and urine collected for tests for my Doctor and go see him on soon which is stressing me out. I hate health related stuff it makes my brain go a million miles an hour with worrying.
 
Today I finally just called in sick. I didn't feel like going to work at all. Yesterday I came home and just felt really down.

I finally got the courage to call a therapist to set up an appointment but hung up instead of leaving a message. I haven't tried to call again. I know I need help but honestly I think i'm still ashamed to get help. Which is just stupid and ironic because I'm always telling people the benefits of seeing a counselor. I guess I just don't follow my own advice.

I think one of my reasons for being so reluctant to seek help is because I'm so use to dealing with things on my own. I keep wanting to just deal with it. But I don't think it's possible for me to do that this time.

I want to blame this job I took for my mood spiraling back to such a low point again but that's not fair perhaps. In the end it's my fault. I had high expectations for the job. I expected it to be just like the interviewer described it. I expected it to move me forward with my career. I expected I could make positive changes and get out of the rut I was in.

And none of that happened. The job wasn't like my interviewer/manager said it'd be. My coworkers weren't the friendliest bunch. The confidence I gained in the previous work I did went back to zero. I haven't learned new things. Instead i was left with nothing but regret, frustration, anger, and sadness.
 
Sometimes it works others it doesn't, i have had several doctors see me and try and find out what i have but so far no luck.

I'm so sorry pixelation, that sounds absolutely excruciating. Furthermore, in my own experiences I've found that nausea and those sorts of feelings of unease take a much larger toll on my mental health than most other physical conditions.

You mentioned not being in the US, so clearly medicaid isn't an option, but is there no local equivalent for medical assistance where you are?

I guess I'll apply

It requires someone with good customer service skills, though, and I don't have that. Also, if I do get it, I'll have to forego the benefits I need from disability.

I'm glad you're applying!
And developing better customer service skills would be precisely the purpose of the job, wouldn't it? It sounded like a pretty cool gig, too! Perhaps the benefits of the job, not just monetarily but also personally, will be worth forgoing disability benefits. Or perhaps not - but either way, there's nothing to lose in applying :)

Seconded. Heartily.

THIRDED!!

Anyway this seems to be working for me for the most part. I haven't really found anything if this is related, and it's probably just my allergies, but over the last few days my throat gets congested and I have difficulty breathing, and am coughing/clearing my throat a lot. I take a decongestant, and drink water, usually goes away after a while, but sometimes comes back later. Sometimes it has gone away on it's own. I doubt this is related to Adderall at all, but I'm also on Pristiq. Is this most likely just allergies like I think it is? I did move to a new apartment the other day, so that could have something to do with it.

I'm so glad to hear you've found some relief, Hylian! I've never heard of allergies-esque symptoms from Adderall or Pristiq, which doesn't mean it's impossible but certainly it seems more likely that it's just allergies.

Trying to meet new people and just be open to new things. It is not my specialty, but I really want to make a go of this.

I've been stable for, oh, thirty months or so--a personal record. Took a long damned time to get here, but it feels pretty good now.

I'm so glad you've gotten to a better place, kamineko :)
If you learn anything along the way about better ways to meet new people and be open to new things perhaps you can come back and share. I could definitely use some tips!

But now there's one within arm's reach, flimsy lock be damned, and that does worry me a bit. I'm not doing too well right now, but not suicidally so. Yet, as I held it in my hands, one of the first things my brain told me was "Well, at least you have an easier way out now."

What was it you felt in that moment? Relief? Fear? Existential dread? Perhaps a mix of all three?
I haven't spent much of my life in close proximity to firearms but there was one period in particular where there were some nearby and I was very, very low and it both comforted me and terrified me to know that I actually had an option.

I take back what I said in my previous post. I feel pretty much just as bad as I ever did before I started my meds I think. Incredibly tired, miserable just being in my own head, back hurting way more than it does when I'm in a good mood, etc.
Really hope this is just some weird temporary thing...

Kipp, I'm sorry things have gone into a slump. I have a few thoughts; hopefully one of them will help you sort out your feelings on the matter.

I was put on an antidepressant, Zoloft, when I was very young. I took it for almost a decade without really thinking critically about what it did, or what I needed it to do, or what it couldn't do. I didn't think about it much at all, really, until around age 20 it just ... stopped working. Over a period of a couple of months I found myself repeatedly in one to two week episodes of despair and hopelessness. I, of course, went to see a psychiatrist, and there began a nearly two-year long period of heavy change in my medications, during which time I tried out over a dozen medications via several doctors, many of them working sort-of-but-not-enough or working for a bit and then collapsing.

I learned a lot from being on that many medications. I learned just how unreasonable my expectations for my medications were. I changed off of several medications because they weren't making me happy. I wanted to be happy, medication wasn't doing that, get me off of it, it is a failure, full stop. This, of course, is a sort of unreasonable perspective - there are many more aspects to ones emotional and mental well-being than just a sliding scale of happiness.

I learned that what I needed to aim for was stability and the ability to be happy, not happiness itself. Instead I need medications that stabilize my emotions in such a way that I am able to cultivate the circumstances that lead to happiness. It still takes work on my part; if it didn't, I think my life would be all out of whack!

I learned, most of all, that medications probably can't fix all of your problems. Medications are symptom relief. They will alleviate suffering. But if the source of my suffering - my constant rumination, my poor self-image, my existential anxiety - is still sitting back there working as hard as ever it'll eventually find a way around the medication, at least somewhat.

A lot of people treat this post-medication dip with more medication or a higher dose. That may work for many people - and I would encourage you to talk to your doctor and perhaps consider a higher dose if you feel that your medication simply isn't working for you at the current level! But in many circumstances it's just not possible to bomb it out of the water, or at least not possible to do so without adverse effects.

Therapy was very helpful for me, both because it has helped me sort through my issues that I cannot medicate that were constantly fighting through the medication - existential anxiety, social anxiety, feelings of abandonment, loneliness - and because it helped me figure out which treatable symptoms were at the root of many of my other problems.

Turns out I don't need anti-depressants and I don't need mood stabilizers. Not that I don't have depressions or mood instability - I do, but both are the result of my massive, massive amount of anxiety. I've had much more success with my medications since shifting focus to medicating for anxiety primarily, medicating for symptom relief secondarily, and then figuring out the rest with self-reflection, meditation and therapy.

So, personally, I see medication as useful for two things in my life.
1. Symptom relief. Can't sleep? So anxious you have IBS? Medication will minimize - but not eliminate! - both of those. Hopefully as time goes on you can figure out how to treat these yourself with lifestyle changes and behavioral modification, but in the meantime, medication is here to help!
2. Treatment of root causes. The closer you get to the bottom, the clearer it is what, exactly, needs to be medicated. Anti depressants weren't doing much for me because they weren't doing much for the huge anxiety that kept spiraling me into depressions.

Sorry to ramble for so long. I definitely do not mean to give the impression that my problems are yours or my solutions will work for you. I have but this one life of experiences and I hope it can be of some help in you finding your own path, one that none of us have walked except for you.

I hope things look up soon, and if they don't, know that you have many, many many many MANY more options! :)

Went and had my first appointment with my Therapist on the 2nd. I don't know what I was expecting going in. We talked for like 45 minutes and suggested when I feel anxious and get nagging thoughts to just rip the emotion from them and view them as just thoughts. That and to do breathing exercises. Tried the thought thing it works sometimes but not all the time just yet and breathing does help out quite a bit.

I'm glad your appointment went well, redlegs. That's awesome that you're already feeling a bit of relief from what you and your therapist talked about! Sometimes it takes a few appointments to warm up to a therapist.

Today I finally just called in sick. I didn't feel like going to work at all. Yesterday I came home and just felt really down.

I finally got the courage to call a therapist to set up an appointment but hung up instead of leaving a message. I haven't tried to call again. I know I need help but honestly I think i'm still ashamed to get help. Which is just stupid and ironic because I'm always telling people the benefits of seeing a counselor. I guess I just don't follow my own advice.

I think one of my reasons for being so reluctant to seek help is because I'm so use to dealing with things on my own. I keep wanting to just deal with it. But I don't think it's possible for me to do that this time.

You seem to have a good attitude on your need for treatment, oni_saru, and some very interesting perspective on your reluctance to seek help. I encourage you to write that down or otherwise remember to bring it up with a therapist when you do end up in an appointment - it seems like an avenue worth exploring.

Also, I hope you're able to set an appointment soon. I believe in you. Please let us know if there's anything we can do to help.

Hey guys, what to do when the worry that I won't be able to sleep has prevented me from actually sleeping at night?

I have a ton of sleep anxiety and I've done a few things to help. Perhaps some of them could work for you?

First, good sleep hygiene. It's extremely important. I try to get up around the same time every day, even on the weekends. It's difficult for a little while but eventually your body will keep you on schedule; two years ago I struggled to get up before noon, and these days I can't sleep past 10AM. I also make sure not to get in my bed unless I'm sleeping.

Second, I stopped wearing a watch and got rid of all clocks in my bedroom. Now, when I shut down my computer I no longer know what time it is, and that helps me not worry about how much sleep I'm getting.

Third, I set up a night time routine. At 12AM at the latest, all screens go off. I shut down my computer and turn my phone upside down so that I can't accidentally see what time it is. Then I sit next to my bed, on the floor, and either meditate, or write my feelings, or sit and think - whatever it is I need to do to release some of the anxieties that I've been avoiding all day. They tend to gang up on me and make my mind race when I try to sleep if I don't make it a point to let them through. Sometimes if I'm feeling particularly nervous about my ability to get to sleep I'll leave my bedside lamp on very, very low or lay on the floor until I get sleepy, in both cases so I feel like there's less "pressure" to fall asleep. Once I get sleepy, I'll climb into bed.

Fourth, if I'm still unable to fall asleep, I get out of bed and sit in my chair (in the dark) and either think about, speak aloud of write down what is on my mind and what is preventing me from sleeping. Sometimes a good 20 minutes of thinking in the chair will help my mind slow down.

Fifth, I always make sure to start my routine and go into no-clock mode as early as possible, so that I know that even if I can't sleep for a couple of hours I'll still get a decent amount of sleep. I know this isn't always possible, but I do it when I can.

It sounds ridiculous, and it sort of is, but it has worked for me!

<3
 
I am so fucking sick of my mom expecting everything to revolve around her. she just threw an actual fit because a metacritic link I gave her doesn't list a show that is supposed to come on PBS. Therefore it's useless and all technology is terrible. Even though some PERSON wrote the metacritic website so it has nothing to do with technology.

I tried to fucking explain it but she won't fucking listen. She's fucking annoyed because the list features channels we don't have / she doesn't care about like Showtime, like...you know, everything must be made for her and only her. I'm sorry this article wants to list every single channel premiering shit for the general public and not specifically you. Heaven forbid!

I asked if she would rather I hand make her a list catering to her exact needs (I said this really nicely and sincerely) and she says nope. She just "doesn't need to use the tv anymore" apparently. Even though it's her only form of entertainment and, even if she gives up on the summer shows, she'll expect something out of me for the fall shows. I tried to be as nice and calm and patient as possible to her but I kind of scowled when I left the room so I probably pissed her off.

If she knew I was in my room upset she would throw the hugest fit ever because heaven forbid I be upset by her selfishness. She wants fucking miracles from me. For something as stupid as a list of television show premieres. If you miss a tv show, apparently it's the end of the world. I am at a loss as to what I'm supposed to pull out of my ass for her.

Ugh dumb rant is dumb
 
It's really hard to me to get out of my bed last few days. It's hard to fall asleep as well, so I sleep all day long and wake up in the evening.
I feel so shitty and miserable. I think about suicide sometimes, but what can I do if I can't get out of bed to feed myself? I'm only 19, but it feels like my life is irreparably ruined, mostly by my own parents. I can't interact with people, I can't make friends, I can't trust anyone. I'm too nervous, too anxious, too awkward, I can't shut up and everyone hates me. Every time I want to share my pain with someone, I stop somewhere midway and think: "Oh, come on, you really think someone would care?" If I told my mother I'm depressed and I need help, she would scream at me so loud I'd have to hold my phone away from the ear. Everytime I try to speak about my problems she starts screaming like "I'M HAVING IT SO MUCH HARDER AND YOU DARE TO COMPLAIN???". Whenever I'm having problems and want someone to listen to me, she starts screaming at me because I'm "too weak".
Even subpar therapist costs half my monthly budget and I can't afford it by myself. In my country, free "psychological help" mostly consists of disinterested women/men in their 50s who wouldn't listen to me as well. They could only prescript some outdated pills that no one in US/EU uses. So the only thing I can do now is to graduate from the uni, get some job and pay for my treatment all by myself. Three or four more years... it feels like eternity, living with all this inside. Sometimes I'm so scared of dying I couldn't fall asleep, but right now I wouldn't mind dying at all.
 
Kipp, I'm sorry things have gone into a slump. I have a few thoughts; hopefully one of them will help you sort out your feelings on the matter.

I was put on an antidepressant, Zoloft, when I was very young. I took it for almost a decade without really thinking critically about what it did, or what I needed it to do, or what it couldn't do. I didn't think about it much at all, really, until around age 20 it just ... stopped working. Over a period of a couple of months I found myself repeatedly in one to two week episodes of despair and hopelessness. I, of course, went to see a psychiatrist, and there began a nearly two-year long period of heavy change in my medications, during which time I tried out over a dozen medications via several doctors, many of them working sort-of-but-not-enough or working for a bit and then collapsing.

I learned a lot from being on that many medications. I learned just how unreasonable my expectations for my medications were. I changed off of several medications because they weren't making me happy. I wanted to be happy, medication wasn't doing that, get me off of it, it is a failure, full stop. This, of course, is a sort of unreasonable perspective - there are many more aspects to ones emotional and mental well-being than just a sliding scale of happiness.

I learned that what I needed to aim for was stability and the ability to be happy, not happiness itself. Instead I need medications that stabilize my emotions in such a way that I am able to cultivate the circumstances that lead to happiness. It still takes work on my part; if it didn't, I think my life would be all out of whack!

I learned, most of all, that medications probably can't fix all of your problems. Medications are symptom relief. They will alleviate suffering. But if the source of my suffering - my constant rumination, my poor self-image, my existential anxiety - is still sitting back there working as hard as ever it'll eventually find a way around the medication, at least somewhat.

A lot of people treat this post-medication dip with more medication or a higher dose. That may work for many people - and I would encourage you to talk to your doctor and perhaps consider a higher dose if you feel that your medication simply isn't working for you at the current level! But in many circumstances it's just not possible to bomb it out of the water, or at least not possible to do so without adverse effects.

Therapy was very helpful for me, both because it has helped me sort through my issues that I cannot medicate that were constantly fighting through the medication - existential anxiety, social anxiety, feelings of abandonment, loneliness - and because it helped me figure out which treatable symptoms were at the root of many of my other problems.

Turns out I don't need anti-depressants and I don't need mood stabilizers. Not that I don't have depressions or mood instability - I do, but both are the result of my massive, massive amount of anxiety. I've had much more success with my medications since shifting focus to medicating for anxiety primarily, medicating for symptom relief secondarily, and then figuring out the rest with self-reflection, meditation and therapy.

So, personally, I see medication as useful for two things in my life.
1. Symptom relief. Can't sleep? So anxious you have IBS? Medication will minimize - but not eliminate! - both of those. Hopefully as time goes on you can figure out how to treat these yourself with lifestyle changes and behavioral modification, but in the meantime, medication is here to help!
2. Treatment of root causes. The closer you get to the bottom, the clearer it is what, exactly, needs to be medicated. Anti depressants weren't doing much for me because they weren't doing much for the huge anxiety that kept spiraling me into depressions.

Sorry to ramble for so long. I definitely do not mean to give the impression that my problems are yours or my solutions will work for you. I have but this one life of experiences and I hope it can be of some help in you finding your own path, one that none of us have walked except for you.

I hope things look up soon, and if they don't, know that you have many, many many many MANY more options! :)

Piano, thank you so much for your thoughtful reply. That was incredibly helpful and is giving me a lot to think about. I'm very thankful for the new perspective.
Right now I've got so many separate thoughts (the good kind) swimming around my head from reading your post that it's difficult to untangle them - plus I haven't finished my coffee yet - so this isn't going to be as long of a reply as is warranted by your post, but yeah, thank you.
 
@Piano:

My teeth are fucked, though, so I've been hoping to get benefits to get them fixed as opposed to having to pay upwards of 1-2K.

I haven't heard about the job, though.
 
Anyone else don't really want anything? It's like there's a scam behind everything. I don't want money, relationships, friends, material things, sex. I can see how they could be nice but I don't want them. I guess I still want some food, water, air to breathe, etc.
 
I'm getting more interviews but in far away cities. Commuting wouldn't be a viable option because of the distance, the pay rate, and the job requirements.

If I land one of them I don't know how I'll afford moving and securing a place to live.

I'm trying to stay positive about it all but in the back of my mind - consistently pushing itself to the front - is the thought "well if it fails you have that smorgasbord of pills to swallow."

I apologize for popping in and posting sporadically and not really giving advice to others that post. I dunno if it offends/bothers anyone but I kinda feel like a dick for it. Just when I am not confident in giving advice? And sometimes I'm not looking for a response, just want to air shit out.

I don't know.
 
Do you ever feel like you have days where it seems everything has gone wrong? I've had like 3 straight days like that. and I'm feeling so depressed. it's insane.
 
Man, I've just had this feeling over the past couple days that all the good things I've built over the past couple months when I felt mentally healthy are going to go down the drain now that I've fallen back into depression. I've got some new friendships that have been great but I'm scared that I'm going to lose them due to my change in demeanor, and I've got a job interview for a job I've been really excited about but I'm worried that I won't be able to present myself well while I'm in this mental space.
I've had some really good things going and I feel like they're kind of slipping from my hands.

Do you ever feel like you have days where it seems everything has gone wrong? I've had like 3 straight days like that. and I'm feeling so depressed. it's insane.

Yeah, definitely. It's mostly a matter of perception though, I think. It's always easier to notice all the little things going wrong when you're depressed and when you're feeling good you usually just kind of shrug them off in my experience.
 
So my co worker just said something that put me on full tilt.

I said "no" to a client and she made a comment like ”you almost sounded like you have a backbone."

I was already feeling kind of down, so this was the final straw. Haven't been sleeping well lately due to the heat. Work has been kind of stressful. My friends have been stressing me out lately. So when i heard my co worker say something that enforces one of my deepest insecurities, I broke my back. Note I can't focus and I feel so cold and alone.

I feel like I just want to give up.

I feel like everything I've achieved I've done for other people.

I enjoyed college. Last thing I did that I did for myself.

Lost 125 lbs? Did it because the world thought I was a disgusting sack of shit. I loved eating unhealthy food. Can't do that now or I risk gaining it all back, a fear that paralyzes me.

Got a full time job. Got it because it was expected of me by friends and family. Plus I VB like buying stuff and living. I'm still making less than half of what my friends make.

Everyone expects me to do stuff for them. But when I want something to happen, I get a ton of resistance.
 
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