Life is Strange | Spoiler Thread

On the whole "murder mystery vs supernatural" thing: it can't be a coincidence that the title screen goes to the storm once you finish the episode. It could be meant to represent Max's physical state similar to how Spec Ops' title screen gets more and more eerie as you go through the game

Well the first thing we see in Episode 1 is the storm, so I doubt its just a metaphor for Max.
 
As for supernatural vs. murder mystery - I'd lean to it being the latter with some openings that there may possibly be something more there... The devs have always said the supernatural is more of a mechanic and narrative device as opposed to a central theme. Of course, that could all be misdirection.
 
It looked to me like the shirt Rachel was wearing was the blue object they saw. I remember seeing buttons on it.
Ah, I can see it being either of these. That clears things up, thanks.
I rewound that a couple times to relive the asskicking. He definitely lived up to the name "Warren G" there because he sure the fuck just regulated on Nathan's ass. My dude.
Seriously. At first I pulled Warren off but when I saw Nathan bugger off with the gun afterwards I thought "this is a terrible idea". I rewinded, let him have it to see what happened and rewound about 3 times after that to watch it all again before sticking with that choice. God damn best scene.
last scene in a different camera angle:
jesus chriiiiiiiiiiist
 
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I didn't add Max's name to the wall and this is what I got.

 
This game isn't going to have a happy ending. I suppose it's a testament to the quality of the plotting and characterisation that I actually want Max and Chloe to remain alive and to be with each other. I felt awful for Chloe when they found Rachel's remains. Been a long while since a video game affected me.

Another thing that sets this game ahead of its peers is the soundtrack. It mixes perfectly with the drama unfolding in screen and makes it more powerful. Kudos to Dontnod for that.
 
It's still pretty clearly supernatural.

How about this, Jefferson can rewind like Max and knows Max has the ability. That's why he knew to first drug Max off guard (other than obviously go for the person with the gun first).

Would also explain how he got to the junk yard before Max and Chloe after the party. Could explain the Nathan/Rachel photo in Jefferson killing Nathan and then rewinding after the photo was taken (he'd then show the photo to Nathan so Nathan would do his bidding). And would also explain how Jefferson could operate in the dark room without David ever catching him there and why there are large gaps where Jefferson isn't accounted for (night of the last Vortex Club party he's at the gas station at 9:59 PM, doesn't arrive home until 5:52 AM the next day).

If Jefferson did set up Kate to die specifically that day, maybe he was the reason why Max couldn't use her powers on the roof, because their rewind powers were overlapping. Maybe it was at this point Jefferson realizes Max had the power.

Jefferson having time rewind ability would make his actions and behavior more believable, Nathan is basically a ticking time bomb and can be hard to control even if he has the Prescotts backing him, not to say it's not impossible but it would feel more natural for someone having this power to go out of his way to pursue his weird fetish since he knows his action can be rewound, also evidently he's never been caught judging from the dozen binders until Rachel Amber.

It would make things a lot more complicated though, but can help explain some stuff like why they built a bunker and Nathan screaming out "A storm is coming, you're all gonna die!" in that trailer (that they seem to have taken out), because they probably know shit is going to happen after the end of the world party just as Max and Chloe would.
 
if Jefferson could time travel he could just rewind time after abducting the students and doing whatever he does in the bunker without leaving a trace of evidence. Though one could make a point that Rachel might have suspected something so he decided to get her out of the way. I still don't find this theory very likely
 
This game isn't going to have a happy ending. I suppose it's a testament to the quality of the plotting and characterisation that I actually want Max and Chloe to remain alive and to be with each other. I felt awful for Chloe when they found Rachel's remains. Been a long while since a video game affected me.

Another thing that sets this game ahead of its peers is the soundtrack. It mixes perfectly with the drama unfolding in screen and makes it more powerful. Kudos to Dontnod for that.

Should DONTNOD hire Sigur Rois then? May as well go full on Rains of Castamere
It wont have a happy Disney ending but something bittersweet and positive for sure.
Max & Chloe LESBIANS 4 EVA! is probably the most unlikely ending though
 
People who've finished episode 4 will get this.

I'm from Europe, we think of calander dates differently. :( (I know it's made by a French studio but the characters are americans and sonis the backdrop)
 
You just assemble the Brooke-Warren-Alyssa-David nerd squad.

Yeah, I have no idea how it's going to play out, but you could feasibly have David, Warren, Brooke, Alyssa, Daniel, Luke, Dana, Victoria and her posse and Frank on your side by episode 5. There's a good chance for some reactive side-character hero moments.
 
I bet the fucking drone comes into play in Ep 5.
 
Yeah, I have no idea how it's going to play out, but you could feasibly have David, Warren, Brooke, Alyssa, Daniel, Luke, Dana, Victoria and her posse and Frank on your side by episode 5. There's a good chance for some reactive side-character hero moments.
Maybe it'll be like the ME2 suicide mission.

I bet the fucking drone comes into play in Ep 5.
It'll deliver the salt payload at the moment you most need it.
 
I bet the fucking drone comes into play in Ep 5.

Oh yes, let us control the thing! Brooke straps David's guns to the thing!

Send Victoria into the vents.

HAHA! Wow! Brooke is the tech expert with her drone, she should go into the vents
Victoria is so Miranda it's not even funny. Fire Team Leader 1
Warren is now alpha so Fire Team Leader 2
I am sure Alyssa can HOLD THE LINE with her girth
Frank can be the Biotic Shield except instead of Biotics it's his natural musk...

Chloe is one bad day away from being Jack from Mass Effect i.e. day worse than her dad passing

SOMEBODY DRAW THIS NOW!!
 
So, clearly next episode Max is going to find Warren's selfie they took at the party and go back in time and try to correct things again.

I assume that's the consensus but haven't had time to look at the thread too much.

Jefferson being the bad guy was pretty obvious, they did a lot of showing his slight creepiness deflected by Nathan being such a psycho. Didn't know if he was going to be the only one or the big one but knew they had to pay off things like how callous he was to Kate with his whole victim blaming routine, the rumors about sex with Rachel and that the "prize" was him picking a pretty young girl to fly alone with him to San Francisco.
 
It'll be interesting to replay this and do a lot of 'good things' while along the way find hints that pointed to the reveal at the end.
 
Great post about foreshadowing I found (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstra...4_spoilersthe_signs_were_right_infront_of_us/ )

Just some pretty obvious hints to Jefferson that were in previous episodes.
Episode 1:
Jefferson says "I could frame any one of you in a dark corner."
A possible hint to him "framing" Nathan from most of his antics for EP4. All throughout EP4, we assume Nathan and his family are the only ones involved in the dark room. Yes, Nathan is most likely involved in Jefferson's "ring", but as I said, throughout most of EP4, it heavily implied Nathan did it all.
His photographs around campus
If anyone checked the photos around campus in EP1, most of Jefferson's photos are of young girls, in "vulnerable" positions.
What do we see in the dark room in EP4? Pictures of Kate and Rachel, in vulnerable positions, tied up, among a load of other girls.


Episode 2:
Kate mentions hearing a soft voice while she was out of it
Nathan doesn't have a soft voice. At all. He's really quick to be loud.
Mr. Jefferson, on the other hand, tends to be really soft spoken all of the time.
Even when being "told off" by Principal Wells in EP2/3/4, he remains calm.
Unlike David, who is quick to retaliate, calling Max a punk and Nathan threatening a lawsuit.
Mr Jefferson gets a tad defensive when Max brings up Rachel Amber
When talking to Jefferson in EP2, after Kate walks out, Max has the option to say "I don't want Kate to become the next Rachel Amber", to which Jefferson quickly says (and in a slightly different tone than is usual tone) "Rachel Amber? What has she got to do with Kate?"
And of course, the "Maybe she means well, but doth protest too much" remark.


Episode 2/3:
Hanging out with his female students after hours [Possible citation needed]
If you choose to blame Jefferson in EP2, Pr Wells will say "Mark, I know Miss Marsh has assisted you in class", implying Kate may have stayed behind to help Mr Jefferson clean up after class/help prepare the lesson, which seems like something she would do, so most people may have overlooked this.
In EP3, late at night, he's seen exiting the school with Victoria. For reasons unknown. Could Victoria be trying to get on Jefferson's "good side" or something else?
Episode 3/4:
Nathan being "out of it" in Rachel's picture
I didn't noticed it too much at the beginning, but after replaying, have a look at Rachel's photos.
In her "buried" pic, there's a boy, who also appears to be knocked out of it too, next to her body.
I think this boy may be Nathan, as the boy has similar clothes/hairstyle to him.
If it IS Nathan, then who took the picture?


Episode 4:
Whiskey in the dark room
If you search the dark room, you'll find some whiskey infront of a sofa.
Only 2 people have been shown to have drunk whiskey: Principal Wells and Mr. Jefferson (EP1 ending)
Nathan hasn't been shown to drink whiskey at all. Nor has anyone at his Vortex Club parties.
How did "Nathan" know Rachel's body was found?
Max and Chloe told NO ONE about Rachel's body. Not Frank, not the Police and certainly not Nathan.
They wanted to get Nathan, but he was nowhere to be found. At all, he wasn't at the Vortex Club party.
Disclaimer: I am in NO way saying Nathan is 100% innocent.
So yeah, some hints from previous episodes I managed to pick up.
What do you think?

Really interesting stuff, much of that I have not noticed while playing myself.
 
This game isn't going to have a happy ending. I suppose it's a testament to the quality of the plotting and characterisation that I actually want Max and Chloe to remain alive and to be with each other. I felt awful for Chloe when they found Rachel's remains. Been a long while since a video game affected me.

Another thing that sets this game ahead of its peers is the soundtrack. It mixes perfectly with the drama unfolding in screen and makes it more powerful. Kudos to Dontnod for that.

Me too. I want Chloe and Max alive but now with Chloe dead, I truly doubt it Max will live in the end. Hopefully Max will pull some power to bring Chloe back to life but with her doped as hell, I find that very unlikely.

Another awesome thing is the Voice Actor in the game, especially Max and Chloe. In Ep4 they were amazing, especially in the beginning.
 
i think the biggest and most obvious link was when Jefferson is talking to Kate in a previous episode and then gets a phone call, you can listen in on the conversation. Then you can see a note in this episode to Nathan from Jefferson saying not to call him and not be so obvious or something
 
We may get an ending where Max and Chloe both live, but times been reset to when they never reunited with each other.

I hope not. That's literally the ending of
The Butterfly Effect
which is already a big influence in the game.

Hell, the ending of Episode 3 was pretty much ripped from the movie too.
 
Great post about foreshadowing I found (source: https://www.reddit.com/r/lifeisstra...4_spoilersthe_signs_were_right_infront_of_us/ )



Really interesting stuff, much of that I have not noticed while playing myself.

might be a stretch, but the homeless lady outside the diner also talks about sighting rachel amber with a guy old enough to be her dad. (though she assume the guy to be her dad if we are going to be technical)

some of them are too farfetch though. I believe its implied Victoria's just trying to get close on the good side of Jefferson because she wants to win the competition. Same goes to him being calm when told off by the principal...David and Nathan has been showing their aggressive side throughout the game unlike Jefferson, so Jefferson being calm is nothing abnormal.

Regarding the pictures around campus in episode 1, I don't see anything out of place either. The outdoor exhibition around the campus were magazine photos of Jefferson. The photos in the classroom were random photos (lighthouse etc) and magazine photo covers too.

Also, while Chloe and Max told nobody about Rachel Amber's body, that doesn't mean the murderer (Jefferson or Nathan) himself doesn't know Chloe and Max has found her body. The murderer himself could have been stalking Chloe and Max soon after he realized that they are on a mission and is getting close to the truth. It really goes both way here for both Nathan and Jefferson (or really anyone else too), so you can't really say that's a foreshadowing.
 
It seems disappointing that Jefferson is the bad guy. Seems like a really obvious twist, and would have been more interesting if his niceness was sincere.
 
It seems disappointing that Jefferson is the bad guy. Seems like a really obvious twist, and would have been more interesting if his niceness was sincere.

Seems like you are in quite the minority thinking it was obvious since only 7% blamed him for Kate Marsh's attempted suicide.

(I was in the 7% :D)
 
Chloe dies far too much btw. Like the universe needs her to die and stay dead, That's definitely a plot point to be resolved in episode 5.

Beginning to come around to the thought that we'll loop to the very start of the game and Max will be forced to make a different choice than she did in the bathroom where she stopped Nathan from killing Chloe.
 
Seems like you are in quite the minority thinking it was obvious since only 7% blamed him for Kate Marsh's attempted suicide.

(I was in the 7% :D)
I don't mean that. I wouldn't have pegged him for that at all. I mean the whole "Nice guy is actually the murderer". It's pretty lame and overplayed. I hope there's more to it.
 
Chloe dies far too much btw. That's definitely a plot point to be resolved in episode 5.

There are a lot of theories that suppose she's pretty much fated to be shit upon by the universe. If she's not dead, she's horrifically crippled.

Unlike a lot of people though, I don't think the resolution of the story necessarily has to be Max just accepting that. I'd love to see her using her time control powers to result in a future where Chloe can have a normal-ish life.
 
I don't mean that. I wouldn't have pegged him for that at all. I mean the whole "Nice guy is actually the murderer". It's pretty lame and overplayed. I hope there's more to it.

"Nice guy"? Did you not pay attention when he was victim-blaming Kate? Murder mysteries generally don't work when the killer actually was the obvious cruel asshole the whole time. LiS played it pretty well where Jefferson seemed nice but if you dug in deep and paid attention, there were things that made it obvious he wasn't as nice as he appeared.
 
Holy shit at the results ratio for Chloe's euthanasia. Currently 52% for yes, 48% for refuse. I was in the minority, but stared at the screen for about half an hour before choosing.
 
Amazing episode. I kinda suspected that Jefferson was evil because it thought dontnod made him likeable in the beginning so that it would be a bigger shock later.
 
That 7% getting their vindication now

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That's me!

Although my reason for choosing him was because at the time despite everything that I was thinking could be going on, Jefferson was the only one that had some solid evidence against him for having an effect on Kate's suicide attempt
 
Holy shit at the results ratio for Chloe's euthanasia. Currently 52% for yes, 48% for refuse. I was in the minority, but stared at the screen for about half an hour before choosing.

That was the toughest choice for me in the game, despite knowing it would not have any effect due to Max traveling back in time. I stared at the screen for a long while as well but in the end ended her misery.
 
This game...

Just finished episode 4. I expected Jefferson showing up... but not there. How did he get there so fast?! Damn. Can't wait for episode 5.
 
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