Sony FY2015 Q1 (PS4: 3.0m shipped) PS4 total = 25.3m shipped worldwide

Don't compare sell in and sell through bro. Especially when you don't have an actual worldwide sell through figure to use.

Well, I was just trying to see if we could do something with US + Japan numbers and the usual US split (that's why I specified *estimate* and *in that case*). Unfortunately, this is what we have since getting hardware European numbers (at least) is impossible :lol
 
Thats what I'm mean, when I talk about the OS team. But also friend notifications and app support (twitch etc).

Yeah I want friend notifications too, but I don't care about twitch, I prefer watching streams on my pc (because my country blocks justintv broadcasts & all the non-partner streams use the justintv servers), I can use Hotspot on PC to avoid that.
 
But the PS4 is still selling at $200 more than the PS2 was at this point in it's lifecycle. I have a feeling Sony will only go with a $50 price drop for the PS4, but if they did do a $100 drop the way they did with the PS2, I could see it holding close to the PS2's numbers.

Not to mention that 2016 will be by far their most relevant line up of games, with Uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, Street Fighter V, Horizon and The Last Guardian. That alone is a pretty staggering schedule, and doesn't include indies or whatever else they'll announce at PSX, TGS and PGW. Add a price drop to that and PS4 should have its best year.
 
As a whole company this is terrible, the ONLY reason this is seen as a positive is because they have been doing extra terrible. There actual money they have in the bank is extremely small compared to apple, Microsoft, google, and cisco, Samsung.
Anyone who knows how to read financials can clearly see that there are segments bringing them down, but overall a company of this size not getting a billion going into the bank for the quarter is bad.
Yes I know MS had a write down, and had a loss for the quarter, but generally every quarter they pull 2-3 billion, google generally pulls 2-2.6 a quarter, apple obviously is on another league.
This isn't a game console rant because I own all three, but at the end of the day a company is about making money, and sony is always on a thin line, which is not good, its still on a recovery path, and sometimes they uneducated will see there lead in games and assume they are a huge company, or making lots of money.
 
So I'm still on the no price cut side this year for the ps4.

They're are going to do crazy bundle stuff but there will be no price cut.
I think that the first price cut will happen with the release of Morpheus.
 
Just say "I personally like Xbox exclusives more", don't turn this into a list wars thread, PS4 having more exclusives this year is an undeniable fact (& I'm talking retail not indies). Whether your taste matches with those games or not is irrelevant, this is a sales thread, the majority here don't like Call of Duty but nobody would say the game doesn't count when discussing the best selling games of the year just because the game doesn't match their taste.

Yeah I'm not doing that at all though, thing is I don't even own an Xbox One, I am a PC, PS4 and Wii U gamer, so don't just assume I'm an Xbox Fan Boy trying to start a stupid flame war.

I have no problem saying Xbox has a stronger Xmas line up though and would have liked to see a few more, bigger Sony games to make it out this year but 2016 is going to be an awesome year though and with all the positive previews it's been getting I think Until Dawn might be a nice surprise, even if it's not the best game ever.
 
Not the same thing at all. While Call of Duty is old & tiring, the games are still full of content & the gameplay mechanics are solid, it's just that the franchise is getting old.

Mall Cop is a legitimately atrocious movie.

Ghosts is definitely just as bad as Mall Cop.
 
Well, I was just trying to see if we could do something with US + Japan numbers and the usual US split (that's why I specified *estimate* and *in that case*). Unfortunately, this is what we have since getting hardware European numbers (at least) is impossible :lol

I get it haha, but it's not good to mix numbers as some of those units sold through may be units shipped in the prior quarter. Also the only sell through number we have from sony is as of March 1st so we can't even begin to estimate how many have been sold through to date (to an accurate level).
 
Always good to read about healthy numbers.

Curious if at this point in its life the PS2 had a pricecut already.
It's kind of complicated to launch align PS2 as it launched in March 2000 in Japan and October-November of the same year in NA and Europe.
I remember the first European price cut was in September 2002.

Mind you, there's already been a soft price cut on PS4 as now, you can always get a PS4 for 399 with a game or something.
 
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Classic lol
 
Very nice numbers, good to see the game segment is a key to Sony as a company, bodes well for their resource allocation.

Guess I'll stop berating my wife for killing the game industry when she plays with her Iphone games.... for now ;p
 
He probably meant Ps1+Ps2+Ps3+Ps4+Psp+Vita VS. combined rest of the console world

I think he just means home console.With handhelds, it's not even close to be possible

Edit: i did some quick maths, sony home consoles are slightly below nintento+ms consoles but that could change by the end of the gen. If you add sega, atari, etc... it's an easy win for rotw
 
Very nice numbers, good to see the game segment is a key to Sony as a company, bodes well for their resource allocation.

Guess I'll stop berating my wife for killing the game industry when she plays with her Iphone games.... for now ;p

You do that?

Console gaming is still bigger than mobile as of 2014, although analysts are predicting mobile to surpass consoles in 2015 (due to more growth in mobile). Mobile is cannibalizing handheld gaming, not necessarily consoles.

Both markets can co-exist, it doesn't need to be a competition. I don't understand GAF's fascination with hating on mobile as a gaming platform, it's far more convenient than carrying around a second device (Vita or 3DS).
 
Let's try to analyse the shipment v.s. the numbers we have

Apr-June WW shipment - 3,000,000

IIRC, so far PS4 saw around 34% of its sales coming from US, correct? In that case

Apr-June WW sold-through - 2,035,294

US - 692,000 (NPD)
Japan - 175,964 (Media Create)
Europe/ROTW - 1,167,330 (estimate based on US numbers + current US share of overall PS4 sales)

In that case, there would be almost 965,000 units on the shelves.

Does this include the 1% of China?
 
Wow, that's awesome! How much money does Sony make off of these things again? I thought I remember hearing that the margin was much better than PS3
 
Anyway. You guys should know that PS4 sold better this quarter than Xbox One + Xbox 360 + Wii U + Wii + 3DS combined....
Good golly Miss Molly!!!

It's amazing what you can accomplish with gamer and developer friendly attitudes, a reasonable price and more power than the competition.
 
On track for 30m this year?

They will get closer to 40 million if they drop the price to $299 before the holidays kick off.

Also wow at that number. That would mean they likely sold through more PS4s than MS shipped of X1. Crazy how much the US market is not just coloring the impressions of press but also developers and publishers, when in fact it is not even close world wide.
 
Almost 40 milions by March ? And then Uncharted 4 happens... holly sh**

Their Line up is also very strong for 2016 wich makes me think it will be Ps4 finest year.

Horizon
Last Guardian
Uncharted 4
Street Fighter V
Ratchet and Clank
No Man Sky´s
Gran Turismo 7 eventually
 
Pretty happy with how this generation turned out, Sony's philosophy pre-release is my preferred way of going about things when it comes to what I want in a console, no need to go crazy.
 
Almost 40 milions by March ? And then Uncharted 4 happens... holly sh**

Their Line up is also very strong for 2016 wich makes me think it will be Ps4 finest year.

Horizon
Last Guardian
Uncharted 4
Street Fighter V
Ratchet and Clank
No Man Sky´s

Gran Turismo 7 eventually

My wallet just had another aneurism.
 
Almost 40 milions by March ? And then Uncharted 4 happens... holly sh**

Their Line up is also very strong for 2016 wich makes me think it will be Ps4 finest year.

Horizon
Last Guardian
Uncharted 4
Street Fighter V
Ratchet and Clank
No Man Sky´s
Gran Turismo 7 eventually

you forgot Summer Lessons
 
I can't imagine what the sales will be like once the price is finally cut. If they do it in time for the holidays it'll just be fucking nuts.
 
FYI, because I see this all the time and people don't really understand it still:

On June 30, Moody's has placed Sony's corporate credit rating of Ba1 on positive watch. They will likely be rerating them to investment grade again soon.

The company is turning around.
 
FYI, because I see this all the time and people don't really understand it still:

On June 30, Moody's has placed Sony's corporate credit rating of Ba1 on positive watch. They will likely be rerating them to investment grade again soon.

The company is turning around.

Great news.
 
FYI, because I see this all the time and people don't really understand it still:

On June 30, Moody's has placed Sony's corporate credit rating of Ba1 on positive watch. They will likely be rerating them to investment grade again soon.

The company is turning around.

Wasn't too long ago they got given that garbage credit rating. Good to see Kaz has made a positive impact over the years he's been there.
 
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