Final Fantasy XV Gamescom Active Time Report - CNN reporting live from disaster scene
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I kind of have to laugh.
I've been saying this game was mid 2017 at the earliest since it comepletely skipped E3 2014 and all the info had nothing set in stone. And with Duscae I literally felt like "This is basically all they've made so far".
And people always argued with me. Since things "turned around" so much
I feel good about my holiday 2017 prediction from like a year ago.
And now the new one is Kingdom Hearts 3. Lol. Some are even saying KH3 is 2016.
I think I'm right about KH3 being 2018 too. Depite Unreal.
I've been saying this game was mid 2017 at the earliest since it comepletely skipped E3 2014 and all the info had nothing set in stone. And with Duscae I literally felt like "This is basically all they've made so far".
And people always argued with me. Since things "turned around" so much
I feel good about my holiday 2017 prediction from like a year ago.
And now the new one is Kingdom Hearts 3. Lol. Some are even saying KH3 is 2016.
I think I'm right about KH3 being 2018 too. Depite Unreal.
Lol you have your timeline wrong. The mobile push by SE came shortly after Wada left, which means he delayed starting work on mobile until he really didn't have a choice. There's a reason why he gunned for Luminous Engine even after the failure of Crystal Tools and why after he left his CEO position, he's working on cloud computing for HD tech rather than for mobile tech. Guy's not interested in mobile games.
The answer to why, hypothetically, "none of these games had much of a budget / active staff until 2013" is pretty simple. What released August 2013? (Hint: You're playing it.)
However, I think it's more likely that FF15 actually had a hefty staff by 2013, since Toriyama's team certainly wasn't loaded while they were working on 13-2 and LR. Wada probably got Nier 2 going as a last project before leaving (can you imagine still giving those guys projects after Nier and Drakengard 3 sales? only if you really like them for some reason). If there's additional personnel in 2013, they were probably staffing KH3.
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Jotamide
Unconfirmed Member
Thanks for this. Why even brother coming to show us nothing?
Supermanisdead
Member
What? No they aren't. The dates for "full production" keep moving forward with this game, rofl.
The slow-mo effect with all the motion blur? That happens in the demo too. It doesn't look 10fps.
Shadow Ranger
Member
When they say they haven't named the black haired chick, I hope they mean they haven't announced her. Same for the coyness around airships and such.
Seriously, otherwise the one true takeaway is they really aren't near completion.
TGS better deliver in the areas people want and expect.
Seriously, otherwise the one true takeaway is they really aren't near completion.
TGS better deliver in the areas people want and expect.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
Since 2014, since they are basically scrapping everything Nomura did until that point.
S-E is not Atlus and Tabata is not Hashino.
Well, i'll my joking and negativity aside...
I'm fine with it taking a long time. I hope it takes as long as it needs to. I just hope the end result from all of this nonsense is a coherent and polished game to restore the FF brand to where it needs to be.
If that means releasing in 2017-2018, I'm fine with that.
I'm fine with it taking a long time. I hope it takes as long as it needs to. I just hope the end result from all of this nonsense is a coherent and polished game to restore the FF brand to where it needs to be.
If that means releasing in 2017-2018, I'm fine with that.
FFXII and FFXV are not comparable. FFXII's director left and someone else just took over and finished whatever was already being done. FFXV was moved to PS4 & Xbone and rebooted in 2012. In addition, FFXV is a far bigger & more ambitious game than FFXII, so it's not like you can develop a PS4 level RPG of its scope in 3 years.
You'd think at the very least they'd have a script and a roadmap for game progression written and done.
Persona 5 was already delayed once. Also it's the situations feel a bit different. Atlus is purposefully holding back info, with FFXV it feels like they can't show it due to the state it's in.
doubt it. KH seems to be having little to no development problems. We are seeing it multiple times this year supposedly. I think this month.
DrROBschiz
Member
This comes off as a nitpick defense
The core issue stands regardless of individual details
This game is clearly still very far away assuming they get a cohesive plan and development on track
Its crazy because weren't there several interviews stating that the game was reaching a very solid and stable development pace towards the finish line like last year?
Did the Duscae experiment just throw a monkey wrench into everything or what?
There's no need to spin anything when you have such a luckluster showing frankly, and it wasn't my intention to do so. I edited the list to better reflect the state of things.
Also the list was meant more as joke than as a seerious recollection of what happened.
YianGaruga
Banned
Yoshi-P will take over and reboot FFXV as an expansion to FF XIV while someone else starts working on FFXVI
threelights
Member
I was going to say for people not to overreact, but then I remembered a good sonic game came out before this...
Some would argue even more than one.
=P
I think so, this ATR was just garbage. They replied to the question regarding the black haired girl just to say that they can't say anything about her yet.
And honestly I think they are asking for too much feedback, just do the game you want to make and don't listen to fans too much, XIII-2 was garbage because of too much feedback and Toriyama even admitted it in some interview (can't find it atm).
I'd like to quote Henry Ford:
orthodoxy1095
Banned
As the saying goes:
Atlus has its doubters (including me), but at least they haven't done anything to truly give any weight to those doubts. FF XV is doing just that though: lending weight to the doubters
DrROBschiz
Member
The difference being that the trailers for that game look polished, smooth and damn near done
Umm are we looking at the same thing??? That's not slow mo... that's dropping frames...
Slow mo would look smooth, not jittery.
Anyway, not going to have an fps discussion, if it doesn't bother you, it doesn't bother you.
XIII-2 wasn't garbage.
Dangansona
Member
That's how I'm choosing to look at the situation.
um i dont think so i can see kingdom hearts 3 come out next year if they were on the same engine as ff15 then i can say 2018 but now they on unreal and thing are going smothly then ff15 2016 for kh3 is not far off
I have to agree, I enjoyed FFXIII-2. story was so-so but the new battle system was improved and more fun.
Andrew Evenstar
Member
Anyone who didn't see that waste of a time stream, just read this.
TheJollyCorner
Member
Because of poor upper-management decisions and complex engines creating apparent production stunting hurdle, if we are simply speaking of the HD space.
The reason I trust the combo of Nomura and Kitase more is due to previous results. Kitase knows how to handle large budget, AAA productions. In the fucking mess that was last gen for S-E, under Kitase's watch three FFs were created & released for home consoles, plus impressive remasters for FFX and FFX-2. Sure, overall opinions on the XIII Trilogy will vary, but that doesn't change the fact that they got over the initial hurdle of White Engine/Crystal Tools, got FFXIII out the door 3 and a half years after its concept trailer was revealed, and supplied two sequels in reasonable time periods.
Those are results in my book.
Lifejumper
Member
Isnt mass effect 4 releasing in the same time
Frame? And they havent shown anything about that yet. #positivity2015 brehs.
Frame? And they havent shown anything about that yet. #positivity2015 brehs.
TheSlySoul
Member
After Type-0 was such a letdown, I don't have faith in FFXV anymore...
I get the feeling that Tabata wants to make Type-1 instead and actually has no interest in XV as it was announced which is why he keeps changing stuff.
Alex_Mexico
Member
Nowhere near done? Maybe think twice before releasing a trailer that ends with "almost there, just a little longer"!!! Maybe if you guys spent less time redesigning already perfected characters like Regis we could get this game sometime this decade!
I can't believe they still haven't named some of the main characters in the game. Christ! How can a humongous RPG like Witcher 3 be released in a timely manner and yet Square can't launch a game they started working on in 2006?
What a load of bullshit.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Square_Enix_mobile_games
Look at release dates again, huge push starts in 2012.
Also remember, even though mobile games are small and development light, they still have development windows. Maybe some of them take up to a year or a bit longer. So you have to look at a release date then consider the development window.
There was barely any console releases (excluding the "Eidos" side) during Wada's time. Now he's gone and all of these games get announced for consoles 2-years later which is an effective development window. So maybe it was Wada focusing on their engines that was the issue.
Interfectum
Member
The Witcher 3 took a little over three years to make. We'll see what FFXV looks like a year from now.
Dragon1893
Member
Airship as dlc strikes me as really weird.
In previous games acquiring an airship was a gamechanger. It allowed you to explore regions you couldn't access before, it opened up the game's world to you, you couldn't finish the game without it.
If it's dlc it will be a complete afterthought with no bearing to the actual storyline and unless they purposefully make certain areas unaccessable it wont change anything besides allowing you to get around faster.
In previous games acquiring an airship was a gamechanger. It allowed you to explore regions you couldn't access before, it opened up the game's world to you, you couldn't finish the game without it.
If it's dlc it will be a complete afterthought with no bearing to the actual storyline and unless they purposefully make certain areas unaccessable it wont change anything besides allowing you to get around faster.
Definitely need some of this Marlboro after today
We should probably open a thread only for FFXV burns and jokes LOL. Some are destroying me.
TheGreatDirector
Banned
They also stated that they were continuing work on a new playable demo for people, the same one they announced at TGS.
Mass Effect 4 hasn't had 9 years of history and development behind it. In fact they got Mass Effect 1,2,3 out before this game was even changed to FFXV.
d23 this month will have kh3 stuff then i think tgs will have stuff then the november 3 d23 will have kh3 stuff and maybe we will get stuff at jump fiest for kh3
DrROBschiz
Member
diesturbia
Member
If I was SE, I would do a surprise ATR for damage control...but then again, they would show more concept art.
I mean... I'm so baffled of why they even showed anything. This is far beyond disappointing. Even embarrassing isn't the right word.
I mean... I'm so baffled of why they even showed anything. This is far beyond disappointing. Even embarrassing isn't the right word.
It's the same slow-mo effect everytime Noctis gets knocked out as the demo. I agree framerate needs improvement, but it doesn't look as low as 10fps.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
LostComplex
Neo Member
.. Wow, you're right. This is sad.
makingmusic476
Member
I appreciate your efforts to point out unnecessary hyperbole in this thread.
I really enjoyed the XV demo, and I hope the full game delivers.
