Pick-up artist (who believes rape should be legal) was chased out of Montreal bar

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Man, when i read about his logic to explain legalizing rape...yup. dude deserve getting a beer to his face, especially after that stunt he pull
 
BernardoOne said:
Did you miss the several CrashSimonFaye posts that said exactly that, that they were just attacking for his opinions? CrashSimonFaye wasn't "just" disagreeing with the actions taken by the people in the bar, he actually spent the whole fucking thread claiming the reason for the actions of the people in the bar were just because of difference of opinions and nothing else.
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From what I understand he seemed to be pretty clearly disagreeing with this Roosh (obviously a Bolton) guy but was trying to make a point that it is not the place of the public to deal with him. He was needlessly antagonistic and didn't articulate his thoughts very well which seems to be why he got banned. He also is not the only person in the thread that has argued along similar lines that it is not for the members of the public to try to discipline him.

Considering we've already had this:

"Shame he didn't get killed quite frankly. He's scum, world needs rid."

I don't think that there is any harm in discussing that mob justice is not the way to deal with this. And yeah it was only a drink thrown on him in this case, I can definitely understand that I'm probably being a bit precious about this and fair enough he probably deserved it, all I'm trying to articulate is that I would prefer we didn't try to have regular people trying to punish the guy.
 
striferser said:
Man, when i read about his logic to explain legalizing rape...yup. dude deserve getting a beer to his face, especially after that stunt he pull
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Well, one could argue they are only handling it the way he wants them to handle it. He has proposed that a woman should kick and scream and fight all they can when know they are getting pulled somewhere they don't want to be. So he wants them to assualt him if their answer is no.

They're only doing what he thinks should happen. Why is he complaining?
 
KiwiLannister said:
Those advocating mob justice are forgetting:

What if they identified the wrong guy? Just someone that looks like him?

What if he lied about that rape in a book to try and seem edgy or sell the book?

Obviously nothing extreme happened, but alcohol + mob justice could very easily end in him being killed or seriously hurt, it is not the place of regular citizens to be judge, jury and executioner here. Because they will get it wrong. This forum was very quick to blame reddit for the boston bomber witch hunt.....



I was very close to mentioning Gamergate, which seems to be the current equivalent in most Neogaf threads. This thread is actually similar, where neogaf puts its hands over its ears instead of trying to have a debate. As stupid as the gamergate movement was, I thought the response here was more embarrassing.
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I was wondering why he isn't in jail or have warrants out for him if he admitted to rape. Maybe someone has the answer to this?
 
Baron von Loathsome said:
I remember an article from this douche's site that was posted in the GamerGate thread. It was about abusing one's wife in order to control her, and it was fucking terrifying.
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Damn, that horrible piece of shit was written by this guy? I vaguely remember reading that article back then and also that the website RoK was related to GG somehow (and what a match they were), but couldn't recall any specific details. What a disgusting human being.

Fuck this guy, I can't even pretend to feel any sympathy for a mysoginist rapist who has had a glass of beer thrown in his face.
 
Tigress said:
Well, one could argue they are only handling it the way he wants them to handle it. He has proposed that a woman should kick and scream and fight all they can when know they are getting pulled somewhere they don't want to be. So he wants them to assualt him if their answer is no.

They're only doing what he thinks should happen. Why is he complaining?
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That's what I'm saying.

And considering that some people think we should have rapist radars, I'd say this it worked in this instance?
 
Assanova said:
I was wondering why he isn't in jail or have warrants out for him if he admitted to rape. Maybe someone has the answer to this?
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From what I read earlier it seems like it was essentially some kind of date rape where he went home with a drunk girl and (knowingly) took advantage of her.

I'd guess she didn't press charges because she was embarrassed, felt ashamed, and was scared of having to relive the experience. Reasons that a lot of rapes don't get reported.
 
KiwiLannister said:
From what I read earlier it seems like it was essentially some kind of date rape where he went home with a drunk girl and (knowingly) took advantage of her.

I'd guess she didn't press charges because she was embarrassed, felt ashamed, and was scared of having to relive the experience. Reasons that a lot of rapes don't get reported.
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This. People tend to underestimate how much strain the prosecution process places on the victim. Hell, I had a friend who had to drop out of law school because the sex crimes component was bringing up too many dark memories, and that didn't even have the personal element that a trial would have.
 
The whole MRA subculture is really terrifying. I'm glad one of their shitty leaders got a little comeuppance but the tactics these psychopaths use for vengeance, I don't know if it's worth it, to be honest. Scary people.
 
Are these douchebags the same people who were whining about Mad Mad: Fury Road's alleged "feminist propaganda" which enmasculated the "great American hero that's Mad Max" (tip: he's not American) and by giving a female character as much importance as the titular one? Because "no one orders Mad Max around" or some shit like that.
 
There was a petition going around to prevent this guy from even getting in Montreal. Guess it didn't work.
 
Felix Lighter said:
The whole MRA subculture is really terrifying. I'm glad one of their shitty leaders got a little comeuppance but the tactics these psychopaths use for vengeance, I don't know if it's worth it, to be honest. Scary people.
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Yeah, I had a similar thought. Bu reading a bit farther it appears to be the case that Roosh has admitted to some kinds of sexual crimes in his book. We do have innocent until proven guilty, but it certainly lessens the extent by which I feel the sentiment your post outlines.
 
Alex_Mexico said:
Are these douchebags the same people who were whining about Mad Mad: Fury Road's alleged "feminist propaganda" which enmasculated the "great American hero that's Mad Max" (tip: he's not American) and by giving a female character as much importance as the titular one? Because "no one orders Mad Max around" or some shit like that.
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I don't know if it was these exact individuals but yeah, this group had a big anti-Fury Road push.
 
RionaaM said:
Damn, that horrible piece of shit was written by this guy? I vaguely remember reading that article back then and also that the website RoK was related to GG somehow (and what a match they were), but couldn't recall any specific details. What a disgusting human being.
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I don't know if he wrote the article, but it was definitely RoK.

EDIT: He didn't write it, I checked via donotlink.
 
Alex_Mexico said:
Are these douchebags the same people who were whining about Mad Mad: Fury Road's alleged "feminist propaganda" which enmasculated the "great American hero that's Mad Max" (tip: he's not American) and by giving a female character as much importance as the titular one? Because "no one orders Mad Max around" or some shit like that.
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Yes. They also whined about Captain Phasma from the new Star Wars movie for "imposing gender egalitarianism on a beloved sci-fi franchise."
 
shiba5 said:
Yes. They also whined about Captain Phasma from the new Star Wars movie for "imposing gender egalitarianism on a beloved sci-fi franchise."
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Alex_Mexico said:
Are these douchebags the same people who were whining about Mad Mad: Fury Road's alleged "feminist propaganda" which enmasculated the "great American hero that's Mad Max" (tip: he's not American) and by giving a female character as much importance as the titular one? Because "no one orders Mad Max around" or some shit like that.
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Yeah, the "no one orders Mad Max around" is especially funny because in Road Warrior, the most popular original Mad Max movie, Max basically spends the entire time being ordered around by a different woman. Same in Beyond Thunderdome.
 
I don't get how what he's saying is legal? He's essentially supporting and encouraging sexual violence. If you wrote the same kind of shit supporting murder, wouldn't that catch attention from the law?
 
Cheesehead9099 said:
I don't get how what he's saying is legal? He's essentially supporting and encouraging sexual violence. If you wrote the same kind of shit supporting murder, wouldn't that catch attention from the law?
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I wonder if he could get arrested. Hate speech is not covered by constitutional free speech in Canada. In fact, I think it's a criminal offence. I might be wrong.

edit: yup, section 319 of the Criminal Code prescribes up to two years of imprisonment for anyone who incites hatred of an identifiable group. I believe encouraging the rape of women falls into that.
 
shiba5 said:
Yes. They also whined about Captain Phasma from the new Star Wars movie for "imposing gender egalitarianism on a beloved sci-fi franchise."
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Gwendoline Christie can probably squash their fucking skulls with her bare hands.
 
AuthenticM said:
I wonder if he could get arrested. Hate speech is not covered by constitutional free speech in Canada. In fact, I think it's a criminal offence. I might be wrong.

edit: yup, section 319 of the Criminal Code prescribes up to two years of imprisonment for anyone who incites hatred of an identifiable group. I believe encouraging the rape of women falls into that.
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Yeah I thought so... I wish Canada would put him in jail to make a point.
 
AuthenticM said:
I wonder if he could get arrested. Hate speech is not covered by constitutional free speech in Canada. In fact, I think it's a criminal offence. I might be wrong.

edit: yup, section 319 of the Criminal Code prescribes up to two years of imprisonment for anyone who incites hatred of an identifiable group. I believe encouraging the rape of women falls into that.
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I believe encouragement of finding out who was at the protest earlier that day in order to doxx them would also count as a criminal offence.

Edit: Is it possible for Canada to ban him because of the hate speeches?
 
ultracal31 said:
I believe encouragement of finding out who was at the protest earlier that day in order to doxx them would also count as a criminal offence
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My instinct tells me so too. I couldn't tell you exactly under what section though. While in law school, we were being focused on common offences; the ones a prosecutor sees in his day-to-day job. Doxxing was not amongst them.

edit: I do not know about banning him. I have not seen this in school. The only cases of deportation and banning of which I have heard were of muslim extremists trying to get Sharia Law adopted by the legislative bodies.
 
AuthenticM said:
My instinct tells me so too. I couldn't tell you exactly under what section though. While in law school, we were being focused on common offences; the ones a prosecutor sees in his day-to-day job. Doxxing was not amongst them.
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Alright makes sense. Sounds like from this post that he was also attempting to do other things outside of just doxxing
 
BY2K said:
There was a petition going around to prevent this guy from even getting in Montreal. Guess it didn't work.
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To be frank, petitions to prevent someone from showing up are extremely silly.

Think about the Kanye West one for the Pan Am games. It was atrociously stupid.

Petitions are supposed to restrict individual rights now?
 
HarryKS said:
To be frank, petitions to prevent someone from showing up are extremely silly.

Think about the Kanye West one for the Pan Am games. It was atrociously stupid.

Petitions are supposed to restrict individual rights now?
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Yes, a petition to ban a rap artist from a sporting competition is atrociously stupid

As is comparing that to wanting to keep a known rapist out of your city
 
I'm sure his sick view of rape wouldn't apply if he were unfortunate enough to be taken advantage of while out drinking at a bar.

Terrible individual.
 
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