Ronda Rousey: I can beat Mayweather in a no-rules fight.

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Majanew said:
He has to get the shots off. He could catch her, sure; but if he doesn't, then what? And your gifs showing boxers fighting a boxer with their hands dropping to throw a punch means nothing. She shouldn't be foolish enough to throw a punch.
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He would catch her, forget could. Showing that he has the power to backpedal and knock someone down means nothing?



Would she be able to beat Rigondeaux (5'5 122 pounds) he's one of the quickest, fastest and most elusive fighters in the world, ontop of that he's a southpaw.
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Let me guess, she'll just grab him.
 
That Couture v Toney video is a prime example of why this theoretical match that's never going to happen would be garbage. I can't think of any reason why somebody would think that trash would be worth watching beyond the hope of seeing Mayweather get a decent amount of damage on his face after a match for once.
 
ehhh "she's a mma, he's a boxer" isn't really and argument. he's gonna train before the match and it's no rule even for him, it's not like he has to follo boxe rules.
but it's easy to say thing when they're not going to be proven
 
jehuty said:
Mayweather is a professional Boxer. He normally goes through 12 round bouts (3 Min each round) taking on punishment from literally hundreds of blows to his head, torso, and arms. He is constantly moving and has to have legs of iron to stay upright to stay in the fights. He has to have superhuman stamina to make it through his bouts and on top of that he is a counter puncher which means he is always on the defense. On top of all that he probably has some of the quickest hands in boxing history.

Yet somehow we are supposed to believe that he would magically concede to Silva and be knocked out by one of his leg strikes or punches.........Bwa hahahahahaha. Silva would destroy Mayweather if somehow he got a hold of him and was able to make him submit. But Silva getting into a game where he leaves himself open to be counter punched (literally any time he throws a jab or leg strike) would be the end of that.

I don't even like Mayweather but would be the first to admit that you'd have a tough time finding many people on this earth that could take on him. Silva was very good at what he did, no one would dispute that. But to think a prime Silva would take down prime Mayweather with ease is just foolishness. No one has beaten Mayweather in his sport yet, Silva got taken down by nobodies in the sport he is supposed to be god in.
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Not sure if serious.
 
Nafai1123 said:
You use a gif of an individual that isn't an experienced MMA fighter as anecdotal evidence that Ronda would suffer the same fate. :P

Grapplers have an advantage against strikers in MMA. They train to beat strikers, while strikers can't do shit against grapplers on the ground (they try some basic technique but can't keep up). It's why BJJ is pretty much required if you are serious about competing in MMA.

If you think Ronda would spend 1 second attempting a striking game against Mayweather then you're wrong. She would never attempt to throw a punch and leave herself vulnerable. She would close the distance, get her hooks in him and take him down, and he would have no answer for that. If he's able to evade her and keep the distance than he wins, but I just don't see it happening. Closing the distance in boxing is not the same as closing the distance in MMA.



In an MMA fight, any professional MMA fighter could beat any professional boxer in a similar weight division. That's like....common sense.
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There isn't a "striker" in MMA close to Floyd, there are GIFs of Ronda getting her bell rocked by far less skilled punchers, so.........
 
_illmatic_ said:
Welp, there it is. Thanks for clearing that up.
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The idea that being an amazing boxer somehow prepares you to compete at the highest levels of MMA is ridiculous. It's like saying a professional racquetball player could beat a professional tennis player at a match of tennis.

If he trains beforehand? Then yeah sure all bets are off. He does have the weight/strength/speed advantage.

abuC said:
There isn't a "striker" in MMA close to Floyd, there are GIFs of Ronda getting her bell rocked by far less skilled punchers, so.........
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Yes, because she was going toe-to-toe in the stand-up striking game at the time. What makes you think she would even try that against Floyd?
 
Cheebo said:
I can't believe she still gets positive press after coming out as a Sandy Hook conspiracy theorist.

To those who don't know she believes the children murdered at Sandy Hook were child actors used by the government to create a fake excuse to take guns away.
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Well, shit. I didn't want to know this.
 
Nafai1123 said:
The idea that being an amazing boxer somehow prepares you to compete at the highest levels of MMA is ridiculous. It's like saying a professional racquetball player could beat a professional tennis player at a match of tennis.

If he trains beforehand? Then yeah sure all bets are off. He does have the weight/strength/speed advantage.
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The women's bantamweight division in UFC is the highest level of MMA?
 
Nafai1123 said:
Yes, because she was going toe-to-toe in the stand-up striking game at the time. What makes you think she would even try that against Floyd?
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He has the reach, power and speed advantage and would be the single most accurate striker she's ever faced while having the most power & quickness. The only strategy for overcoming such huge differences are "Grab him". You say that she wouldn't stand with him, well the counterargument is that he would know she would try to grab him and would fight accordingly, off his back foot and he has the power to hurt men off his back foot.
 
Nafai1123 said:
The idea that being an amazing boxer somehow prepares you to compete at the highest levels of MMA is ridiculous. It's like saying a professional racquetball player could beat a professional tennis player at a match of tennis.

If he trains beforehand? Then yeah sure all bets are off. He does have the weight/strength/speed advantage.
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Ronda Rousey is the highest level of MMA? No. Again, we comparing two completely different types of fighters. We don't even know if Ronda is the best female MMA fighter lol.
 
abuC said:
The women's bantamweight division in UFC is the highest level of MMA?
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Considering no competitors exist to dethrone the UFC's monopoly, yes :P

Seriously, Ronda's division is a few years old. If she was thrown into the regular bantamweight division, she'd be eaten alive. Dillashaw would end it in the first minute.

Dillashaw V Mayweather is a more interesting matchup, maybe.
 
Rhonda Roussey has wiped all of her opponents...all of her opponents have been utter shit though. People really buy into the marketing bullshit and consider her unbeatable, especially people who dont know dick about fights. I dont think Rhonda can take Cyborg, Floyd would demolish her. Can we develop some kind of disparaging term for people who think Roussey can stomp most male fighters? Its like some weird fedora parallel.
 
abuC said:
He has the reach, power and speed advantage and would be the single most accurate striker she's ever faced while having the most power & quickness. The only strategy for overcoming such huge differences are "Grab him". You say that she wouldn't stand with him, well the counterargument is that he would know she would try to grab him and would fight accordingly, off his back foot and he has the power to hurt men off his back foot.
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A 3" reach against someone covering up trying to take him down. She wouldn't be foolish enough to stand there and let him jab her with his 3" reach. And he may know she wants to take him down, but her opponents know about her armbars, yet kept getting submitted by it -- as well as her tosses. He doesn't know how to stop a takedown. He doesn't know how to grapple. He doesn't know how to stop a hip toss. He doesn't know how to defend a submission. He has a puncher's chance and that's it. He needs a lot of MMA training and he'd train so long, she'd probably be about to retire or already retired. lol
 
-tetsuo- said:
Not sure if serious.
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Please let me know where my argument is wrong. I'm open to learning.

People act like Mayweather isn't a great athlete along with being a great boxer. He can take more punishment than most since its especially part of the way he fights. What makes you think he wouldn't be prepared to counter Silva's strikes (legs or hands/elbows)? In a grappling situation its a different story (and even then as long as Floyd's arms are free he will just keep playing congas on his opponents body). Just because you can use your legs doesn't really change anything. Missing with a leg sweep or kick leaves you wide open to punch that would make jaws pop. And Silva trying to out box Mayweather would be the height of foolishness.

Say it me, MMA fighters aren't invincible. They should be able to beat boxer due to grappling and submission techniques. Of course this would require them to actually get a hold of the boxer in the first place. Boxers would be pretty aware of this and in some cases be able to adapt. Mayweather is a defensive mastermind, if anyone would figure it out it would be him.
 
On one hand MMA fighters usually destroy boxers in MMA fights.

On the other hand Floyd is undefeated as a boxer and is equally successful when it comes to fighting women. We have the police reports and boxing belts to prove it.

As far as I know Ronda has never fought a man (though I heard she has done well sparring with some).

Advantage Floyd.
 
jehuty said:
Please let me know where my argument is wrong. I'm open to learning.
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You can start with the fact that Anderson has a 6" reach and 40 pound advantage. Then you state that the ability to use your legs doesn't change anything, which shows that you really have no idea what you are talking about.
 
Obliterator said:
Not even close. Silva is a 210 lb man with an 78 inch reach
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Yes, Silva is bigger.

Obliterator said:
and has KO power and vastly more tools than Mayweather.
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But see, Silva did what he did against guys who are poor strikers, mostly. Yes, he has kicks and knees. But more dangerous as a striker, are you insane? Striking is more than just MMA. In fact, striking in MMA isn't on that high of a level overall compared to boxing, full-contact karate, or kickboxing/Muay Thai.

I'd also like to point out that Silva got thrashed in the standup by a guy who had only been training kickboxing for 5 years. Twice. Could you imagine Floyd Mayweather being outboxed by a guy who had only boxed for five years? It's inconceivable.

Obliterator said:
It is incredible how boxing being around so long has convinced people they are the superior fighters. Incredible.
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It is incredible how ignorant many MMA fans are about boxing. I'm more of an MMA fan but I watch both sports. The talent pool in boxing so much deeper, in large part because the stakes are so much higher.
 
Nafai1123 said:
She would close the distance,
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Eh? That simple, to close the distance, on a much-faster striker who is a master of maintaining distance and using footwork?

Think about this regarding Mayweather in an MMA fight- how many MMA fighters have been extremely successful using "sprawl-n-brawl" tactics, combining boxing with defensive wrestling? How much better of a boxer is PBF than, say, Connor McGregor or Andrei Arlovski? If he trained MMA for a short time, learned the basics of defending takedowns and submissions, why wouldn't he dominate with his pedigree as a striker, which is far beyond anyone who has ever fought in the UFC?
 
Rhonda dismantles Floyd if she manages to get her hands on him. Floyd dismantles Rhonda if he can keep away from her. In the octagon, I favor Rhonda.

"I can beat anyone in a no-rules fight" is such a ridiculous thing to say, though.

ApharmdX said:
Eh? That simple, to close the distance, on a much-faster striker who is a master of maintaining distance and using footwork?

Think about this regarding Mayweather in an MMA fight- how many MMA fighters have been extremely successful using "sprawl-n-brawl" tactics, combining boxing with defensive wrestling? How much better of a boxer is PBF than, say, Connor McGregor or Andrei Arlovski? If he trained MMA for a short time, learned the basics of defending takedowns and submissions, why wouldn't he dominate with his pedigree as a striker, which is far beyond anyone who has ever fought in the UFC?
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Boxing and MMA are very different sports. So much of what he's good at goes out the window when the opponent can clasp his hands around him and throw him down on the mat. As much of a master as he is at boxing, at 38 there isn't any amount of work he could put in to be good enough to compete at the UFC level. It's a moot point, anyway; even if the money's there, he's not going to risk losing when he already makes insane cash chumping fools in boxing.
 
abuC said:
He would catch her, forget could. Showing that he has the power to backpedal and knock someone down means nothing?



Would she be able to beat Rigondeaux (5'5 122 pounds) he's one of the quickest, fastest and most elusive fighters in the world, ontop of that he's a southpaw.
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Let me guess, she'll just grab him.
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He's.

A.

Boxer.

He's elusive in a boxing ring.

He can dance in the ring because his opponents wait for it...... aren't allowed to grab him.........

Yes she will flipping grab him..... why would she not grab him? He knows how to box, she knows how to fight....... boxing skills mean jack shit in a real fight.

An mma trained person only needs to slip ONE of your punches and you're fucked unless you know how to defend a grapple. Something mma fighters train in all day every day. Unless Rigondeux has guaranteed one punch KO power, almost impossible with speedy small fighters, being fast enough to hit first still won't mean a damn thing.

Street fighting techniques are more a part of MMA fighters natural skill set and when it comes down to it, they will be able to make split decisions faster because it will be in their muscle memory. And that's what counts. Unconsciously knowing exactly what to do in a given situation due to a lifetime of honing skills. Boxers dont
even know what those skills are because they're BOXERS.

When Rigondeux takes a step back and thinks he's evaded because that's what he knows, the MMA fighter is already waiting for him to plant one of his feet and sweep him.

When Rigondeux throws a punch, jes not expecting anyone to grab his arm and twist it in a way he even knew was possible. The MMA fighter was thinking about it before the fight even started.

I love boxing. I have boxed. I don't even fucking like MMA but you're stupid if you think a gif of a guy dancing around evading punches in a ring is supposed to mean something while were trying to have a conversation about street fighting.
 
Idk why people are focusing on her saying that she could beat a tiny man with no mma training when she also said she could beat anyone in an mma match. The latter is far more ridiculous.
 
GrizzleBoy said:
He's.

A.

Boxer.

He's elusive in a boxing ring.

He can dance in the ring because his opponents wait for it...... aren't allowed to grab him.........

Yes she will flipping grab him..... why would she not grab him? He knows how to box, she knows how to fight....... boxing skills mean jack shit in a real fight.

An mma trained person only needs to slip ONE of your punches and you're fucked unless you know how to defend a grapple. Something mma fighters train in all day every day. Unless Rigondeux has guaranteed one punch KO power, almost impossible with speedy small fighters, being fast enough to hit first still won't mean a damn thing.

Street fighting techniques are more a part of MMA fighters natural skill set and when it comes down to it, they will be able to make split decisions faster because it will be in their muscle memory. And that's what counts. Unconsciously knowing exactly what to do in a given situation due to a lifetime of honing skills. Boxers dont
even know what those skills are because they're BOXERS.

When Rigondeux takes a step back and thinks he's evaded because that's what he knows, the MMA fighter is already waiting for him to plant one of his feet and sweep him.

When Rigondeux throws a punch, jes not expecting anyone to grab his arm and twist it in a way he even knew was possible. The MMA fighter was thinking about it before the fight even started.

I love boxing. I have boxed. I don't even fucking like MMA but you're stupid if you think a gif of a guy dancing around evading punches in a ring is supposed to mean something while were trying to have a conversation about street fighting.
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No, he can dance around like that because his footwork is top notch and nobody can match his speed.

"Just grab him" doesn't work when someone is always cognizant of their positioning and never gets in to close. I don't even understand how you can look at that gif, say you love Boxing and not see that he's never leaving himself in range of anything, he's controlling the distance at a pace Ronda & no other UFC fighter can. Rigondeaux is one of the most avoided fighters in boxing because of his footwork, speed and the fact he's a lefty with very good power (10 KOs out of 15 fights), with his speed just trying to grab him will leave you with 1-2-1 before you even know it.
 
Unless he can develop a good sprawl defense, Mayweather would be immediately tossed to the mat. Rousey wouldn't even have to hit him, she could smother him until he submitted. It would be over quick, and it would be boring.
 
-tetsuo- said:
You can start with the fact that Anderson has a 6" reach and 40 pound advantage. Then you state that the ability to use your legs doesn't change anything, which shows that you really have no idea what you are talking about.
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Reach doesn't always equate to a pure advantage. Sure its great for keeping your opponent at a distance but there are strategies against this. Everything has a counter against it in the fighting world. What happens to that 6 inch reach once Mayweather gets under one of his jabs or feints his way inside him. When Mayweather gets inside (and he will) then Mayweather gets to show his boxing prowess by going to Silva's body or what i'd do and keep throwing overhand rights.

The 40 pounds on Mayweather is a great advantage. But at the same time, more weight doesn't always translate to better fighter or more punishing blows. Mayweathers weight class is where he is optimal at, there is no guarantee that him gaining weight would make his punches better unless it was all pure muscle. Same thing applies with Silva, yes he has more "weight" behind his punches, but that may not be that effective against someone like Mayweather who is used to punishing blows.

As for legs not changing anything, they are powerful tools that can lay someone out to be sure. And yeah Silva would implement, leg kicks to Mayweather to keep him at bay (Muay Thai techniques mostly). At the same time, there are countless defenses against leg strikes. Most importantly, its extremely hard to do a leg strike and use your hands right after. This leaves an opening that good fighters know how to exploit.

Silva would use everything at his disposal to take down Mayweather. Again, I don't believe for a second Floyd wouldn't train for that and know how to defend against most strikes. Dude is the top of his game in the boxing world, you'd be foolish to believe he would be dispatched without it being a huge struggle for whoever his opponent was. When it comes to grappling, I don't know if Floyd know how to counter against that. Still, striker to striker, Floyd wins against Silva.
 
abuC said:
No, he can dance around like that because his footwork is top notch and nobody can match his speed.

"Just grab him" doesn't work when someone is always cognizant of their positioning and never gets in to close. I don't even understand how you can look at that gif, say you love Boxing and not see that he's never leaving himself in range of anything, he's controlling the distance at a pace Ronda & no other UFC fighter can. Rigondeaux is one of the most avoided fighters in boxing because of his footwork, speed and the fact he's a lefty with very good power (10 KOs out of 15 fights), with his speed just trying to grab him will leave you with 1-2-1 before you even know it.
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Actually.. yeah it does. Watch MMA.

If Ronda wants to take down Floyd or any other tiny ass boxer.. its happening. 99 times out of 100. Floyd aint no wrestler. Ronda competes grapples well with grown ass men. Floyd is a fucking shrimp who has never grappled before.


I'm no Ronda pusher... but we've seen her grapple with men.. and she does well. Against a guy whos never grappled before.. it won't even be a contest.
 
Takuan said:
Boxing and MMA are very different sports. So much of what he's good at goes out the window when the opponent can clasp his hands around him and throw him down on the mat. As much of a master as he is at boxing, at 38 there isn't any amount of work he could put in to be good enough to compete at the UFC level. It's a moot point, anyway; even if the money's there, he's not going to risk losing when he already makes insane cash chumping fools in boxing.
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In order to throw him, Rousey has to get into the clinch. Do you think that Mayweather can't avoid being clinched by her? Footwork is different in MMA, a bit, but it's still a major factor. She could go for a single or a double, but I don't think she has a fast enough shot to catch him. I don't ever recall her doing a wrestling-style shoot in her fights, only seen her defend against them, so that's a question mark.

I love watching Rousey fight, I love seeing judo being used to dominate in MMA, but women's MMA isn't deep like men's MMA. Even if it was, I'm not sure how well-equipped a female MMA fighter is to deal with a man who's an elite combat athlete, even of similar size. I don't even know if it'd be safe, let alone competitive.

I do agree about Mayweather's age. He's 38, he's too old to learn what he'd need to learn to be competitive in men's MMA. And the money is not there, he made in his last fight what the entire UFC roster will make in 3 full years. That's the problem with boxing vs MMA. Until MMA starts paying a fair wage, we won't see legitimate boxers trying the sport in their prime.
 
I understood 'no rules fight' to mean "I throw my hot coffee in his face with my left hand, grab the stapler off the desk with my right and smash it into his face, then I kick him in the balls." Not just a regular MMA fight.
 
abuC said:
No, he can dance around like that because his footwork is top notch and nobody can match his speed.

"Just grab him" doesn't work when someone is always cognizant of their positioning and never gets in to close. I don't even understand how you can look at that gif, say you love Boxing and not see that he's never leaving himself in range of anything, he's controlling the distance at a pace Ronda & no other UFC fighter can. Rigondeaux is one of the most avoided fighters in boxing because of his footwork, speed and the fact he's a lefty with very good power (10 KOs out of 15 fights), with his speed just trying to grab him will leave you with 1-2-1 before you even know it.
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Please.... he's styling' on some bum nobody ever heard of in a sparring session.....

He's never in range of anything? He's open for body shots all the fucking time. He stands right in front of the other guy and weaves his head around knowing the other guy isn't experienced enough to throw a body shot.

He can dive in with his front leg over extended all he wants against a boxer. An MMA fighter will KICK it straight from underneath him.

He can dive in looking for jabs to the belly with his head low all he wants against a boxer. An MMA fighter will grab the back of his head and knee him in his frigging face. Out of instinct.

Boxing is not fighting.
 
Anyone on this planet? Okay this shit is really, really getting to her head LOLOL

She might beat Mayweather though...maybe
 
dem said:
Actually.. yeah it does. Watch MMA.

If Ronda wants to take down Floyd or any other tiny ass boxer.. its happening. 99 times out of 100. Floyd aint no wrestler. Ronda competes grapples well with grown ass men. Floyd is a fucking shrimp who has never grappled before.


I'm no Ronda pusher... but we've seen her grapple with men.. and she does well. Against a guy whos never grappled before.. it won't even be a contest.
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Its amazing how wrong a person can be.
 
Honestly, watching Ronda vs Mayweather would be like watching the early days of Gracie in UFC before the weight classes. Where he dominated guys much larger then him.

Assuming Mayweather has less then 3 months for the fight. If it's a 6-12 month difference, maybe he can be taught enough takedown defence and basic BJJ to get by.

The anyone on the planet comment must be out of context, she probably meant any non-MMA fighter.
 
GrizzleBoy said:
Please.... he's styling' on some bum nobody ever heard of in a sparring session.....

He's never in range of anything? He's open for body shots all the fucking time. He stands right in front of the other guy and weaves his head around knowing the other guy isn't experienced enough to throw a body shot.

He can dive in with his front leg over extended all he wants against a boxer. An MMA fighter will KICK it straight from underneath him.

He can dive in looking for jabs to the belly with his head low all he wants against a boxer. An MMA fighter will grab the back of his head and knee him in his frigging face. Out of instinct.

Boxing is not fighting.
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The other guy is a bum because you don't know who it is? He did the same damn thing to Nonito Donaire, his movement was entirely too much for him to handle. The guy you're talking about has a lower opponent connect percentage than Mayweather, so stop it with your breakdowns of how he's open for body shots, because he's not.

We're not talking about every MMA fighter either, we're talking about Ronda Rousey, since when did she become an expert at kicking? Now she's a master at muay thai kneeing opponents in the face when they throw body shots?
 
ApharmdX said:
I love watching Rousey fight, I love seeing judo being used to dominate in MMA, but women's MMA isn't deep like men's MMA. Even if it was, I'm not sure how well-equipped a female MMA fighter is to deal with a man who's an elite combat athlete, even of similar size. I don't even know if it'd be safe, let alone competitive.
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Elite combat athlete? You can't be talking about Floyd?

He's elite against BOXERS. He's elite against people who don't know how to pick him up and slam him face first into the floor.

He's elite against people who are limited in how they can strike him because he only reveals small areas of his body that are actually legal to hit. If he tried his turtle defence in a real fight vs an mama fighter hed simply end up being punched and kicked in the back of the head, neck, kidneys, knees, shins, spine.

His defensive skills as a boxer CANNOT be transplanted into a street fight.

It doesn't work like that.
 
GrizzleBoy said:
Elite combat athlete? You can't be talking about Floyd?

He's elite against BOXERS. He's elite against people who don't know how to pick him up and slam him face first into the floor.

He's elite against people who are limited in how they can strike him because he only reveals small areas of his body that are actually legal to hit. If he tried his turtle defence in a real fight vs an mama fighter hed simply end up being punched and kicked in the back of the head, neck, kidneys, knees, shins, spine.

His defensive skills as a boxer CANNOT be transplanted into a street fight.

It doesn't work like that.
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I get the feeling you think you could beat him in a fight.
 
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