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[Firestone77]

I just wanted to say as someone who entertained a "maybe" vote for Trump, this latest immigration talk is where he jumped the shark for me.

If he wants to get rid of the "anchor baby" situation by challenging the 14th Amendment in a court of law, that's one thing. If he said "going forward, this isn't going to happen anymore," I'd probably even say "okay." But his end game is that he wants to retroactively take away citizenship from some Latinos who have lived here as citizens for years? That's absurd. Those are people who had no reason to even try to become a citizen since they already are one. Under this, they would now get kicked out without even having the opportunity of going through that long, arduous process of obtaining citizenship in the first place? What would Trump or America even gain from that?

Plus, I guarantee some of these people affected are current voters. Hell, just think about the Latino community. Probably many Latino voters will have at least a friend who would be put into this situation or at a bare minimum, empathy for them regarding this absurdity. If he'd ruined his chances at the Latino vote before, he just scorched the earth with it now.

It's just really really stupid to punish someone for abiding the laws, even if he feels they got it through a loophole. A contract is a contract, Trump, and it must be respected. You even said that about the Iran deal if it were signed.

Also, this talk about shipping everyone out and letting the "good ones" back in just reeks of wasted time and resources. What is the point of forcing a "good one" out with the intention of letting him in at a later date, "expedited process" or not? It's just him screwing with people for no positive gain. Identify the bad ones, okay, I follow him there, and force them out. They're probably the ones in prisons right now and I'm fine with that. Or if they're undocumented and later commit a violent crime, they're gone too. I'm cool with that.

Don't bother anyone else. There's just no point. It's mean and economically destructive. Give them a shot at citizenship though this "expedited process" without forcing them to leave in the first place. Make it a one-shot deal for everyone who's undocumented and in the country currently when this would go into effect. Protect the country's interest going forward instead of punishing those who have committed no crime.

Sorry for the rant. I know plenty of people here disagree with doing *anything* about illegal immigration in the first place. Which I found weird because even Obama has acknowledged many of the issues (https://www.whitehouse.gov/share/in...aking-steps-fix-our-broken-immigration-system).

All great points. I don't believe trump is stupid and realizes the impracticality of all of these things too. What he's really trying to do is counter the underlined, which has been the status quo for going on 40 years now. In real terms. He's doing it by asking for $1000, when that is really wanted and needed is $500. It's an amazingly brilliant strategy for getting things done that really need to be done. If he has to offend the people with delicate sensibilities, who cares? They're going to look to be offended for the lamest of reasons anyways. See anchor baby video for extreme proof. Disgusting.

 

[Firestone77]

Makes no sense when he says the good ones can come back in with an expedited process. The good hardcore criminals and gang members? wtf.

He means what he said, which are both of those things. Don't see him backing away from either. Why are you putting words in his mouth, CNN?

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

He means what he said, which are both of those things. Don't see him backing away from either. Why are you putting words in his mouth, CNN?

"Letting the good ones back in" is a direct quote. Now he's backtracking or flip flopping on his position.

Perhaps I'm more familiar with your candidate than you are?

 

[Firestone77]

Makes no sense when he says the good ones can come back in with an expedited process. The good hardcore criminals and gang members? wtf.

"Letting the good ones back in" is a direct quote. Now he's backtracking or flip flopping on his position.

Perhaps I'm more familiar with your candidate than you are?

Not quite. You're connecting this quote, "we're going to get them out so fast, so quick" exactly to this subject "the good ones" with no direct reference. He didn't put those two thing exactly together. You did. Letting ill willed assumptions lead everything. The media's been doing that to him unapologetically since day one.. It's horrible. Refreshing to see him turn the table on this disgusting obfuscation of truth. Go, dude, go!

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Not quite. You're connecting this quote, "we're going to get them out so fast, so quick" exactly to this subject "the good ones" with no direct reference. He didn't put those two thing exactly together. You did. Letting ill willed assumptions lead everything. The media's been doing that to him unapologetically since day one.. It's horrible. Refreshing to see him turn the table on this disgusting obfuscation of truth.

No, I'm using his past words because I've watched virtually every interview he's done in the last month.

Mind you, this is not the first flip flop he's done. He said he would shut down the government to defund planned parenthood but then came out and said they do some good things and that abortion wasn't a big part of their overall services. He's making Romney's political chameleon act look like amateur hour.

 

[speculawyer]

I'm starting to think that the people who said that they just need to get him talking policy and then he'd fall apart on his own were right.

When it was just bravado, vague talking points, and insults he did GREAT. But now that he's getting into deeper policy he's spouting falsehoods, contradicting himself, and starting to fall apart.

 

[Firestone77]

No, I'm using his past words because I've watched virtually every interview he's done in the last month.

Mind you, this is not the first flip flop he's done. He said he would shut down the government to defund planned parenthood but then came out and said they do some good things and that abortion wasn't a big part of their overall services.

Then you're taking specific occurrences and speeches out of any context, making your analysis completely worthless, irredeemably tainted by your personal bias. Whatever. Hope you're aware of it though.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Then you're taking specific occurrences and speeches out of any context, making your analysis completely worthless, irredeemably tainted by your personal bias. Whatever. Hope you're aware of it though.

Just calling it like I see it bud. Dude is spinning in circles trying to tell everybody what they wanna hear, but in today's world that doesn't really work. Every statement is recorded somewhere.

 

[Firestone77]

Just calling it like I see it bud. Dude is spinning in circles trying to tell everybody what they wanna hear, but in today's world that doesn't really work. Every statement is recorded somewhere.

Not saying you're not. Just pointing out its blurriness is all. You welcome, btw.

 

[Glass Joe]

Not quite. You're connecting this quote, "we're going to get them out so fast, so quick" exactly to this subject "the good ones" with no direct reference. He didn't put those two thing exactly together. You did. Letting ill willed assumptions lead everything. The media's been doing that to him unapologetically since day one.. It's horrible. Refreshing to see him turn the table on this disgusting obfuscation of truth. Go, dude, go!

"We have to get them out" is an enough accurate quote, though. Maybe "so fast, so quick" was specifically said about criminals and gang members... But really, at most you and Trump are arguing over what exactly? Only the magnitude of importance on how fast all have to go? After all, there's no way to let the "good ones" back in if they don't have to leave in the first place. I was understanding Trump until this, and now I'm confused. I feel he's walking something back just like Jeb walked-back "women's health issues."

Trump's really going after World News Tonight on twitter. I wonder what that segment entailed that he specifically found misleading, as I haven't seen it.

I'm starting to think that the people who said that they just need to get him talking policy and then he'd fall apart on his own were right.

When it was just bravado, vague talking points, and insults he did GREAT. But now that he's getting into deeper policy he's spouting falsehoods, contradicting himself, and starting to fall apart.

I definitely see where you're coming from.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

Not saying you're not. Just pointing out its blurriness is all. You welcome, btw.

You, my friend, are very welcome. I'm glad I can make my knowledge of all things Trump available to those who are unclear about his positions.

If you have any other questions please feel free to ask.

 

[vainglorious]

If California could elect Arnold Schwarzenegger as Governor is it really so hard to believe the rest of the country would vote for a celebrity like Trump given the chance? I mean, have you guys been to a Walmart lately? Do you see what the electorate fucking looks like?

 

[ErasureAcer]

If California could elect Arnold Schwarzenegger as Governor is it really so hard to believe the rest of the country would vote for a celebrity like Trump given the chance? I mean, have you guys been to a Walmart lately? Do you see what the electorate fucking looks like?

People who crap their pants?

 

[Firestone77]

"We have to get them out" is an enough accurate quote, though. Maybe "so fast, so quick" was specifically said about criminals and gang members... But really, at most you and Trump are arguing over what exactly? Only the magnitude of importance on how fast all have to go? After all, there's no way to let the "good ones" back in if they don't have to leave in the first place. I was understanding Trump until this, and now I'm confused. I feel he's walking something back just like Jeb walked-back "women's health issues."

Trump's really going after World News Tonight on twitter. I wonder what that segment entailed that he specifically found misleading, as I haven't seen it.

These people should not be here in the first place. Happenstance benefit to this society, happenstance detriment. Inconsequential. They should not be here the way they got here. Inescapable fact. I think he knows you have to start from that perspective before you can solve this problem, as it exists and into the future. What's the most extreme, correct logical solution from this absolutely right position? Everyone goes home. Is it the most practical? Probably not. But you do not get to solve this problem with the correct practical solution without starting from the far end correct perspective. It's his $1000 asking price, when he knows he only needs and will settle for $500. And he seems to be the only one with the gusto and honesty to start with the real asking price. So be it. My eyes are not shut.

 

[Dai Kaiju]

I really hope Hillary gets better at campaigning soon. My goodness.

Are you sure? The only chance in hell of Trump getting my vote is if Hillary is the alternative. Since I really don't want to do that either, I think I'll just move to a different country.

 

[Glass Joe]

These people should not be here in the first place. Happenstance benefit to this society, happenstance detriment. Inconsequential. They should not be here the way they got here. Fact. I think he knows your have to start from that perspective before you can solve this problem, as it exists and into the future. What's the most extreme, correct logical solution from this absolutely right position? Everyone goes home. Is it the most practical? Probably not. But you do not get to solve this problem with the correct practical solution without starting from the far end correct perspective. It's his $1000 asking price, when he knows he only needs and will settle for $500. And he seems to be the only one with the gusto and honesty to start with the real asking price. So be it. My eyes are not shut.

Okay. But where does this "we have to get them out so fast so quick" become a gross misrepresentation of his desires? Seems to coincide with his $1000 asking price and gusto to get things done quickly. I'm personally not trying to pick on you, I just don't get it I guess.

 

[cpp_is_king]

I just wanted to say as someone who entertained a "maybe" vote for Trump, this latest immigration talk is where he jumped the shark for me.

Is there a link to the talk somewhere? Haven't been following today's events.

 

[danm999]

The confusion around Trump's words disappears largely if you view his comments from the perspective of "he's telling you what he thinks you want to hear".

 

[Firestone77]

Okay. But where does this "we have to get them out so fast so quick" become a gross misrepresentation of his desires? Seems to coincide with his $1000 asking price and gusto to get things done quickly. I'm personally not trying to pick on you, I just don't get it I guess.

You're conflating the two, man. He's been pretty clear with what his different quotes actually meant when he said them. Re-watching every "flub" the media accused him of committing, I've seen and heard exactly his clarification, not their's. I dunno what to tell you. Maybe you just don't really agree with his base position on some of these things. That's cool too. Living in California, I happen to on this specific one.

 

[Glass Joe]

Is there a link to the talk somewhere? Haven't been following today's events.

For me it's not "today's events," but "this week's events." I catch up on this stuff when I can after work, so sometimes I'm late to the party. After Bam Bam & I had a back and forth about Trump's intentions, I discovered a Bill O'Reilly interview where O'Reilly gave Trump ample opportunity to clarify what Trump apparently felt needed no clarification. When O'Reilly is the voice of reason, there's a problem. I think I linked it at the time if you missed it, but it's probably a few pages back by now.

I haven't seen the World News Tonight piece from today though, which is apparently what Trump is up in arms about tonight though.

 

[Firestone77]

The confusion around Trump's words disappears largely if you view his comments from the perspective of "he's telling you what he thinks you want to hear".

If so, he's the least egregious offender of that particular flaw of any tenable politician from the last 30 years. So drastically so from the current crowd of clowns, democrat or republican, he may as well be considered as to not having that attribute.

 

[Chariot]

Even setting aside my own politics for a moment, it's not something I can really respect. What else can he do? Trying to play the game in the traditional sense isn't going to get him anywhere, as he has no substantive platform to run on. So being perceived as a "straight shooter" in an era where some are getting increasingly frustrated with perceived (note that word) political correctness is about all he has to gain any traction.

I honestly don't fault people for finding it entertaining. But it's hard for me to agree that it is deserving of any respect. His plan to make America great again seems like a complete non-starter, and also seems to ignore completely any of the lessons that should have been learned in the last election. I remember one of the main narratives coming from 2012 was "Republicans really need to make in-roads to do better with Latino voters." And what's Trump touting? A bigger, better wall to keep illegals out. Yeah, that should curry favor with an important demographic that the right is struggling to court.

I continue to be flabbergasted that people get so swept up in polling at this stage. I mean, I won't pretend to be Nostradamus and as such I won't completely write off anything. But I'd be shocked if Trump is still in contention by the time the Iowa primaries roll around, and if he wins the nomination, I'll eat my hat*. Polling at this stage of the game is so inconsequential that I can't believe that anyone puts any stock into it at all. I'm not going to go back several elections and do any actual research right now, but in the last election, Bachmann, Perry, Cain, and Gingrich were all frontrunners at one point or another. Then time pressed on and they proved to be non-starters, and you wind up with Romney winning the nod.

*Steve Youngblood reserves the right to substitute a comically small hat made of food a la Michael Pachter in lieu of eating an actual hat.

I am from Germany a country where there the only two people who seem to have passion are a comedian and the left leader of the weakest part of the opposition who will retire soon. All major politicans are openly in the pockets of the industry. Nobody is able to just say things straight on federal level. I would kill to get a Sanders and I would appreciate someone like Trump who tells bullshit and doesn't back down on it. If you're shitty, at least stay by it.

Of course I wouldn't elect and gladly vote against him. But for now, he's funny to look at, confuses the repulicans and is charmingly direct.

 

[wildfire]

Analysis: Trump supporters are really stupid:

http://www.cato.org/blog/does-donald-trump-really-do-best-among-less-educated-voters

Being less educated doesn't automatically make you stupid. If you really believe that keep on trucking in your ivory tower.

Say what you will about Stalin, the man got shit done.

If you're going to invoke a bastard's name at least mention a successful one like Park Chung-hee.

How late am i in knowing about that rap song dedicated to him? Trump really does have a great relationship with the Blacks.

Trump if nominated will siphon off some votes from Democrats. It still should be marginal but if Republicans vote in force it could make his loss closer than it needed to be

 

[MrCunningham]

Didn't read the thread beyond the OP. But I can't believe it... Trump has more momentum in the general election than Jeb does. The republican party must be shitting in their pants right now.

My feelings are so conflicted. I am fascinated in outcome this as a social experiment, I want to know what would happen if Trump became the US president. But on the other hand it is Trump running for president.

 

[params7]

Didn't read the thread beyond the OP. But I can't believe it... Trump has more momentum in the general election than Jeb does. The republican party must be shitting in their pants right now.

The game's have just started though. Jeb's ads will kick on soon with some direct negative ads about Trump. Other candidates will be doing the same. If Trump survives that onslaught, he gets the nomination imo.

 

[marrec]

The game's have just started though. Jeb's ads will kick on soon with some direct negative ads about Trump. Other candidates will be doing the same. If Trump survives that onslaught, he gets the nomination imo.

I really don't think he'll survive through the debates. We'll see the same whack-a-mole style of front runners that we saw in 2012 and eventually settle on Bush or Walker.

 

[MrCunningham]

The game's have just started though. Jeb's ads will kick on soon with some direct negative ads about Trump. Other candidates will be doing the same. If Trump survives that onslaught, he gets the nomination imo.

I don't know, Trump is a hard man to take down with a negative ad campaign. He's been fodder for pundits and comedians for decades now and has grown a thick skin of adamantium at this point. Jeb Bush's publicity team are going to have a real uphill battle spinning this guy into a negative light. Trump can't be hurt by negative press, this is a man that says stupid shit on a regular basis and nobody seems to care. He is an anomaly in this race, and the media can't get enough of him. The man has media savvy on his side and he could put together a team that can make him look good. How do you counter that? Donald Trump can drown Bush in the wake of his media circus.

But of course I am just talking about the publicity.

 

[Diablos]

Trump is a better option than Hilary. But Sanders needs to become President.

Your logic makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

 

[HylianTom]

Your logic makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

I know.

Folks do realize that we're essentially picking two branches of government when we pick a President, right?

If you want progressive policy, you need the executive branch.

But anything remotely controversial is challenged in the judicial branch these days.. progressive policy needs to survive court challenges. And Trump has indicated that he'll pick Scalia-type judges instead of Kennedy or Souter types.

The thing here is, any President we elect will be gone in a mere four or eight years (time flies). Trump's judges could be around for 2, even 3 decades. (For reference, John Paul Stevens served for 35 years)

Hillary might not get much done, or she might only do piecemeal-type bits of progressive legislation, but at least progressivism would live on to fight in the next cycle. Trump, on the other hand, could shut the door on progress until we're all much, much older. Imagine for the next 25 years, every June, your favorite pieces of progressive legislation - no matter what level of government, be it city, state, federal - being strangled long after Trump is gone. We could elect Bernie-tier Presidents and Congresses multiple times after Trump (or any GOP president), and they'd be sending fresh progressive legislation up to die.

No, voting for Trump wouldn't be very logical. Live on to fight another day.

 

[danm999]

If so, he's the least egregious offender of that particular flaw of any tenable politician from the last 30 years. So drastically so from the current crowd of clowns, democrat or republican, he may as well be considered as to not having that attribute.

He's not the least egregious, he's simply the most charismatic.

 

[marrec]

He's not the least egregious, he's simply the most charismatic.

Like a magician, but instead of faking that he's sawing a woman in half, he's actually sawing a woman in half while half the country claps for him.

 

[danm999]

Like a magician, but instead of faking that he's sawing a woman in half, he's actually sawing a woman in half while half the country claps for him.

He's a really good showman.

I've been invested in his performance for over 10 years now. He knows spectacle, and he knows theatrics and he knows delivery. That's what the Apprentice is. That's all it's ever been.

I could watch him all day. But would I ever vote for him? Not ever.

Then again, I'm not American, so it doesn't really matter how I think regarding his electoral chances.

 

[MrCunningham]

Like a magician, but instead of faking that he's sawing a woman in half, he's actually sawing a woman in half while half the country claps for him.

Oh man, that's the perfect analogy. I applaud you.

 

[Crisco]

Do people realize that we're talking about the President of the United States of America? Do you remember what happened the last time we put a silver spoon incompetent jackass into that office? 9/11, Iraq War, financial meltdown, etc...... It wasn't that long ago. More than anything the job is about 24/7 crisis management. Trump's lived his entire life in a fake world, surrounded by fake people who blow smoke up his ass, and has never had to deal with a real actual problem. You can't declare bankruptcy and walk away when you fuck up in the WH, the man is totally unequipped to handle the job. It's unbelievable to me that anyone thinks he would be anything other than a total disaster as President.

 

[~Devil Trigger~]

I just saw 3 Trump supporters talk on CNN

literally the most ignorant people I've even heard... wow

it all makes sense now

 

[MrCunningham]

Do people realize that we're talking about the President of the United States of America? Do you remember what happened the last time we put a silver spoon incompetent jackass into that office? 9/11, Iraq War, financial meltdown, etc...... It wasn't that long ago. More than anything the job is about 24/7 crisis management. Trump's lived his entire life in a fake world, surrounded by fake people who blow smoke up his ass, and has never had to deal with a real actual problem. You can't declare bankruptcy and walk away when you fuck up in the WH, the man is totally unequipped to handle the job. It's unbelievable to me that anyone thinks he would be anything other than a total disaster as President.

Both Jeb and Trump were born with silver spoons in their mouths. But, would Jeb be any better than his brother though? George W. went to Iraq to finish what his father started in the late '80's. His administration made claims that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, then used it as an excuse to invade Iraq and knock Saddam out of power. The things that Jeb Bush have been saying lately pretty much indicate that he wants America to go back to Iraq. I wouldn't be surprised if he did it as some sort of "clean up" initiative. The Bush family has their fingers wrapped around the oil companies.

I am not saying that Trump is a better choice, but he might not hold the same stigma that the Bush family name does with the American population. Donald Trump is a business man at his core and probably would be better at dealing with the US budget, but outside of that I don't see anything else he could bring to the table.I think Bernie Sanders is the sanest choice at the moment, but sane doesn't always win votes.

 

[Glass Joe]

I just saw 3 Trump supporters talk on CNN

literally the most ignorant people I've even heard... wow

it all makes sense now

Does that speak about Trump or the CNN show you were watching? I haven't seen the bit. But my brain goes to the producers thinking: "Oh a Trump piece. Let's find some real morons, the silliest we can find." Probably not that hard to do, but it also wouldn't be hard to do that with Bernie or Hillary if one were so inclined. Idiots come in every shape and color and with Trump, there has been some media manipulation occurring.

 

[fluffydelusions]

 

[sangreal]

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/634862123642818560

I hope this becomes a trend

 

[Anjelus_]

PSA: NOT COMPARING TRUMP TO HITLER

But just want to point out that it's never a good idea to underestimate candidates like Trump who appeal to the public crazy. This is very reminiscent of how a wacko like Hitler rose up to through the ranks in 1920s Germany:

AH: "In 12 years I'm going to be running Germany."

Intelligent German Voter: "AHAHAHAHA yea right"

AH: "I'm starting a political party"

Intelligent German Voter: "Oh man this is too good, let's see how far this goes!"

AH: "I'm making big speeches and getting people riled up!"

Intelligent German Voter: "Wtf you people wouldn't actually vote for this guy would you?"

AH: "O hi! We won the election even though most people didn't actually vote for us!"

Intelligent German Voter: "What the fuck?!"

*Intelligent German Voter shot to death in Night of the Long Knives*



^^^ True story.

 

[Dr.Acula]

History books in 2115 are gonna be crazy.

"Wait, so a black president was a big deal? Wait, then the very next president was a reality TV star? Also, what's reality TV exactly? I kinda get it, but it doesn't make much sense to me."

 

[Mass Effect]

So I just came from Trump's rally tonight. It was... Interesting...

 

[Karsticles]

History books in 2115 are gonna be crazy.

"Wait, so a black president was a big deal? Wait, then the very next president was a reality TV star? Also, what's reality TV exactly? I kinda get it, but it doesn't make much sense to me."

History book in 2115:
"You mean presidents used to not be movie stars?"

 

[Zoned]

If this country elects this dumbass then this will be the most shameful moment for us in modern times. I doubt anyone would take this country and its leaders seriously after that.

 

[Dr.Acula]

History book in 2115:
"You mean presidents used to not be movie stars?"

We went over this with Reagan.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

So I just came from Trump's rally tonight. It was... Interesting...

Were you a supporter or just a spectator?

 

[MIMIC]

I wonder who will be Trump's running mate.

The next Apprentice winner obviously.

This made me laugh. Hard. xD

 

[Downhome]

This is...interesting...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-poll-trump-idUSKCN0QQ2CO20150821

Republican Donald Trump is pulling away from the pack in the race for the party's U.S. presidential nomination, widening his lead over his closest rivals in the past week, a Reuters/Ipsos poll showed on Friday.

Republican voters show no signs they are growing weary of the brash real estate mogul, who has dominated political headlines and the 17-strong Republican presidential field with his tough talk about immigration and insults directed at his political rivals. The candidates are vying to be nominated to represent their party in the November 2016 general election.

Nearly 32 percent of Republicans surveyed online said they backed Trump, up from 24 percent a week earlier, the opinion poll found. Trump had nearly double the support of his closest competitor, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, who got 16 percent. Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson was third at 8 percent.

Even when Trump was pitted directly in the poll against just his top two competitors, 44 percent backed him. Bush won about 29 percent of respondents, and Carson 25 percent.

"He's not taking any guff from anybody," Dewey Stedman, 70, a Republican from East Wenatchee, Washington, said of the publicity-loving billionaire. "If you don't have something in your brains, you're not going to have billions of dollars."

Trump has driven the debate on the campaign trail with a hard-line immigration plan that calls for the deportation of undocumented immigrants, amendment of the Constitution to end automatic citizenship for all people born in the United States, and construction of a wall along the border with Mexico.

He also has feuded with Bush and other rivals while boasting he could easily beat Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton.

Trump's campaign momentum has paid off with bigger crowds on the campaign trail. On Friday night, he moved a planned rally in Mobile, Alabama, to a football stadium seating more than 40,000.

"It is an appeal to people that are just aggravated about what's going on," Republican strategist Rich Galen said, adding that Trump is a "novelty act" that voters will tire of.

Friday's results in the online rolling opinion poll are based on a survey of 501 Republicans and have a credibility interval of plus or minus 5 percent.

Separate results found Clinton leading among Democrats, though support for her dipped below 50 percent to 48.5 percent.

U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont came in second in the poll of 625 Democrats, followed by Vice President Joe Biden, who has not entered the race. That survey had a credibility interval of plus or minus 4.5 percent.

 

[thepotatoman]

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/634862123642818560

I hope this becomes a trend

Jeb also had his own plane fly over the rally.

https://twitter.com/costareports/status/634871140339421184

Meanwhile, on the Sanders front.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

This is...interesting...

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/08/21/us-usa-election-poll-trump-idUSKCN0QQ2CO20150821

Online scientific polls are still highly dubious. I think his aggregate is more around 22-25 percent than 32.