MiamiWesker
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Metal Gear Solid V: Gamescom Gameplay Demo
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Damn I wanted this too.
TheStruggler
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i clicked but immediately backed out, gotta show restraint
Me too. It finally made me preorder the game, though. The closer we get, the more it hurts.
Please drop your final trailer, KOJIIIIMMAAA-SAN!!!
Karspankey
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Just pre-ordered the hardcover guide on Amazon. Didn't know it was so cheap! Last time I bought a guide for a game was when WWE Smackdown Here Comes the Pain came out lol. (Oh god I just realized the Phantom Pain + Here comes the Pain title similarity) Also have the Collector's Edition pre-ordered. I've never gotten any special editions or guides so I guess you can say I'm pretty hyped 
TheStruggler
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this is me staring at thread
TheStruggler
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I dont even wana watch the damn thing, to scared it will reveal something i dont want revealed lol
Just pre-ordered the hardcover guide on Amazon. Didn't know it was so cheap! Last time I bought a guide for a game was when WWE Smackdown Here Comes the Pain came out lol. (Oh god I just realized the Phantom Pain + Here comes the Pain title similarity) Also have the Collector's Edition pre-ordered. I've never gotten any special editions or guides so I guess you can say I'm pretty hyped
I just did too! Haven't bought a guide since Pokemon Red/Blue.
Oh, I'm terrified, but it's his LAST MGS trailer. Goddamn I'm torn. Fuck it, you might be right. We're incredibly close.
TheStruggler
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I'll watch it when i beat the game it will be my final send off to kojima
Crossing Eden
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I just created a pretty big summary post, you're right to avoid the thread.
People really shouldn't jump back and forth between this and the spoiler thread. There's going to be a disaster. You weak individuals that post in there should be locked in until release. Be ashamed of your words and deeds!
Frankly I don't understand why this thread still exists. Sure, there is a lot of pent up hype but there is a newer and far more relevant thread for people who want non-spoiler stuff from out of the review event.
CambriaRising
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I'm getting concerned about the same shit GOT Book readers did in threads for that show. They would post casual "what ifs" and "here's what I think will happen" posts or just outright "guess" what would happen next. It was a real issue.
Why does it matter?
matrix-cat
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I believe people at this event are playing a build with R&D wait timers removed; YongYea said as much on Twitter. Pretty scummy on Konami's behalf, misrepresenting the game to reviewers (unless the wait timers have actually been taken out of the final build of the game).
Hmm. I fully believe Konami would remove wait timers for the event but I can see that being so the reviewers can get access to what they need in a quick fashion. Absolutely does not reflect the retail game if it's still in and I can't imagine it isn't. Gotta sell those boosters etc. Would be surprised if we didn't hear much more about this Sunday.
It doesn't really, but it's just weird that this thread has somehow outlived the other one.
Well that sucks.....and yea it's very scummy from Konami.
Taking out the anti-poopsocking for reviewers isn't scummy lol. They have limited time to review and I'd rather them reviewing the full weapon catalogue of upgrades and getting us feedback like "this upgrade to the Fulton is fucking bullshit."
Saying it's scummy to them for doing that is just stirring shit where shit doesn't need to be stirred.
Saying it's scummy to them for doing that is just stirring shit where shit doesn't need to be stirred.
They should atleast provide a spreadsheet of the times that reviewers can report on.
matrix-cat
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When you get your R&D team to develop a weapon, it starts a wait timer that counts down until that weapon is available for use (18 minutes for a revolver in the most recent demo). There's no information on exactly how the microtransactions work, but they've talked about the them being for saving time so it's pretty safe to assume that you'll be paying to skip wait timers.
Sure it's convenient for the time-sensitive nature of the event. And it's also having reviewers base their reviews on a build of the game that doesn't represent what will be released to the public. An idealised, more enjoyable version of the game where you don't have to wait through arbitrary countdowns for everything you build. It's an underhanded tactic on Konami's part that is not OK.
I really doubt most reviewers are going to go that granular, describing the value of individual upgrades. Even if they did, the time to research it is also cost associated with it. If they're still in then for better or for worse the time limits are part of the game and will affect their experience. It'd be like giving reviewers an edited version of WW with the Triforce hunt excised from the game so they could beat the game faster.
I-I-I-I guess, but like full disclosure, Konami brought the journalists coffee and food during their 12h MGS marathons. Unethical kickbacks to produce a good review??? Only as much as giving a select cadre of journalists early access copies to review has always been highly unethical as it forces them to toe the line or risk their reviews being weeks late and behind the news cycle in the online age if they get excluded.
I'm sure that there was attention paid to the time to research aspect and how much of a grind/incentive to encourage people to microtransaction it up it may or may not be. And from the looks of things from the early looks at previews/demos, the times are not that outrageous and more than likely are going to be lower than DA:I, which used the same timer mechanic.
I'm sure that there was attention paid to the time to research aspect and how much of a grind/incentive to encourage people to microtransaction it up it may or may not be. And from the looks of things from the early looks at previews/demos, the times are not that outrageous and more than likely are going to be lower than DA:I, which used the same timer mechanic.
matrix-cat
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I don't know, I don't have that much faith in Konami these days. When I see them hiding the wait timer/microtransaction systems from reviewers, I assume it's because they know those things would be poorly received and lead to negative buzz. By cutting them out they ensure that none of that information is going to appear in reviews.
Frankly, I think the whole idea of these publisher-run review events is pretty suspect. Flying a bunch of reviewers out, putting them up in hotels, controlling when and where and for how long they're able to play a version of the game that isn't final retail code; nothing about that sounds particularly ethical. Like you said, they essentially have reviewers over a barrel here. You either accept the publisher's terms, or you have to wait until after the game's release to get your review written.
Frankly, I think the whole idea of these publisher-run review events is pretty suspect. Flying a bunch of reviewers out, putting them up in hotels, controlling when and where and for how long they're able to play a version of the game that isn't final retail code; nothing about that sounds particularly ethical. Like you said, they essentially have reviewers over a barrel here. You either accept the publisher's terms, or you have to wait until after the game's release to get your review written.
Is anyone going to play this on a PS3/360? I've been playing GZ on my PS3 because I haven't gotten around to getting a PS4 yet, and even though I know it won't be as sharp or as detailed, I'm pretty impressed by it.
I was really close to buying a PS4 just for this, but it being $500 CDN has made me hold off.
I was really close to buying a PS4 just for this, but it being $500 CDN has made me hold off.
EatChildren
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Given many reviews will have come from "review events" I more or less immediately write them off. I know the frustration when it comes to these things and when the publisher isn't willing to offer alternatives, but eh. When I review a game I try to put as much personal time into it as I can, and run it at my own pace, rather than stressing about getting X percentage completed in Y days, not being able to go back and check or replay shit at my own leisure, and when code may be altered to better suit the limited time period (eg: research cool downs).
Those will always ultimately be preview events to me. I can't review a game unless I have the whole thing available.
Those will always ultimately be preview events to me. I can't review a game unless I have the whole thing available.
Which is exactly why certain outlets don't even attend. One of the reasons I respect and trust Giant Bomb.
Well someone who went their for the event said they'll be continuing their playthrough after they get home. It still pretty bullshit when the embargo is until this Sunday, but at least it's not entirely locked to the event and people maybe can comment on the full game with still a week before release.
But it's moot for me I guess since I got a cheap Nvidia code a week ago.
But it's moot for me I guess since I got a cheap Nvidia code a week ago.
Oh, so that's what you guys are talking about as being disabled for the reviewers. Thanks. That's *extremely* fucking disingenuous.
I assume this has been brought up literally 1000 times, but could there be a connection between Konami pushing this kind of stuff and the whole "purge the world of Kojima" fiasco?
Nightengale
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Not really. Peace Walker had all this timer-stuff attached to the R&D of weapons/gadgets as well, and that was back in 2010.
And while it's too early to make assumptions, there were some high-level upgrades in PW that had crazy requirements to unlock.
PW uograde grind spoilers :
If I remember correctly, the R&D time for The Patriot was an upward of completing 40? Maybe 50 missions.
There's short missions of course, but if you weren't artificially trying to rush the development of that weapon, that single item alone could take you over 5 hours of actual game time to research.
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the_batman
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who the hell are they?
Those That Don't Exist
GringoSuave89
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well, I see Egoraptor, so I assume the people invited to the LA event.
LOL. Nice one.
OverdriveOtaku
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So every platform is getting two weapon pre-order bonuses but not Steam?
I saw this pre-order page on Konami's site: http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/tpp/en/products/index.php5
I would really like that ballistic shield, but I don't understand why Steam is the only one not getting it.
I saw this pre-order page on Konami's site: http://www.konami.jp/mgs5/tpp/en/products/index.php5
I would really like that ballistic shield, but I don't understand why Steam is the only one not getting it.
the_batman
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i heard it was a bajillion hours long.
i thought pc users didn't care about that kind of stuff.
normalmode
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Konami LA staff and the invited influencers/YTers (none of the press except for one are pictured).
FWIW, while all the invitees were playing the same office room, the press did play on one half of the room while the influencers/YTers played on the other half. Each group had their own separate introductory session so the influencers/YTers might very well have played a version without the ending and no R&D timers. From the press side, all I can tell you is that we played from retail discs the whole time we certainly had to wait some time for some high level weapons and items to be developed. I know of at least three press attendees who got to the ending before the event was over. I'll probably reach the ending myself by the end of tomorrow.
Sweet! How are you liking it? And how many hours would you say it took you to reach the point where you're at in the story?
OverdriveOtaku
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I'm not a "pc user," I'm someone who plays games and happens to do so on several platforms, and decided to get this game for my platform of choice, so just as I don't speak for anyone else, please don't include me in your sweeping generalizations. Just seems odd to me that 4 out of 5 platforms would be getting these items but 1 wouldn't.
Spazznid
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I would reflect my earlier questions towards you, if you have the time.
Did you play with controller or Mouse and Keyboard?
If controller, Was it improved from Ground Zeroes, as was stated in one of the gameplay videos?
If Keyboard and Mouse, Was there really bad acceleration/lagging controls when zoomed in very far? I don't know how to explain it, but that was my only negative with GZ Mouse controls.
Also, hope it's not too much to ask, but if you've played Peace Walker, can you tell how you felt about TPP in general comparatively?
Why would our platform of choice affect that?
matrix-cat
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OK, thanks for clarifying that. I guess I'm making an ass of myself jumping to conclusions again; sorry everyone
