Here it comes. The Trump gif renaissance.
CNN poll : Donald Trump now competitive in general election
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Mass Effect
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A spectator. Listening to people talk about politics around me was fun... or rather scary, depending on how you want to look at it. These people are crazy and have no idea what they're talking about.
He did do a fly-over in his jet around the stadium where he spoke. And right before it came into view, an announcer said "ladies and gentlemen, please direct your attention to the east to see your next president of the United States, Donald Trump!" Admittedly, that was pretty cool. I mean who else would do something like that? There was also a byplane towing a "Vote for Jeb Bush" sign flying around.
Oh, also, I'm black, so given his audience, I did feel... out of place. I even had this lady come up to me and ask "you're here at this Trump rally, are you going to vote Republican?" Obviously I know what that meant and dodged that bullet by saying I don't know if I'm even going to vote.
So yeah, it was interesting and a bit worrying all at the same time.
As soon as I saw this issue in the mail today I couldn't help but think of the dealwithit.gif, hilarious!
Is this seriously what the Republican party base likes? What the heck...
I lean right, but there is simply no way I'm voting for Trump. I do not believe he is capable of effectively leading this country, period. He's a giant man-child.
Before, I thought that he was a joke candidate that people voted for to show their dismay against the establishment, or because he said politically incorrect stuff, but now that he's making gains I'm getting seriously concerned.
Him getting the nomination would shake-up the party in the wrongest of ways. It would force the party to pander even more to a base of people that don't care about actual policy, but care about people with abrasive personalities. That's not what I want out of the party that I'm typically going to find myself siding with, since it doesn't produce effective leaders.
hydragonwarrior
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My hope is that the American people can discern what is entertaining vs what is good for the country and not confuse the two a la Schwartzenegger.
You give them too much credit.
rokkerkory
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Trumps rally in mobile is crazy
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Ehh, Trump's policies are popular.
CNN says his tonight had 30,000 in attendance.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/21/politics/donald-trump-rally-mobile-alabama/index.html
Trump during this camping refuses to cut social security, pledges he will take care of everyone, continues to refuse to talk bad about single payer, wants a 15% wealth tax on the super rich and is proposing a 35% import tax on companies making products overseas.
Look past the rhetoric and Trump's campaign is hilariously close to everything his diehard Tea Party lovers hate.
Look past the rhetoric and Trump's campaign is hilariously close to everything his diehard Tea Party lovers hate.
If you actually look at the rhetoric, he has a plan to enrich the country and its citizens. I don't know what Tea Party lovers even do, but from a conservative perspective I'll take a rich country with good benefits over a poor country with low benefits. Shouldn't it be more about Net Profit than specific details people point to?
Who cares about how things have been done historically? It's unsustainable.
Mass Effect
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I don't think there were quite that many. Maybe 15-20,000.
Laughing Banana
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Holy shit at this exchange.
You! no, you! No, your mom! No, your mom!
So adorable
Also, Trump becoming the US president is a prospect that both very, very intriguing but also very very dangerous--that is, if he's really serious about the stuff he's saying as opposed to treating it like a reality tv show where he just says what the audience want to hear.
It's not though. Rank and file Republicans and perfectly happy with social services and protectionist measures as long as they are perceived to benefit them directly (and not black people or poor democrats).
The tea party was a populist protest against bank bailouts that got hijacked by the Koch machine. Media representation then falsely portrayed elite republican policy preferences as reflective of the base but that was never the case.
Trumps campaign is finding success because he's appealing to the base's actual policy preference. Populist social support for white people. Add in that he's bombastic, charismatic, reactionary and very good at being on TV and I think it's straightforward as to the appeal.
He's spouting black and white solutions to a group of people that have been encouraged to view problems as black and white and he's doing it with 100% confidence. He's an American Berlusconi.
Elfforkusu
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Haha, hilarious yet awesome all at the same time. Stones in the background is just icing on the cake.
Was at the Mobile rally. It was one big stream of consciousness. He would go from talking about how much money he had, to buying a fuck ton of tvs from South Korea to spite North Korea, to how he would stop Nabisco from building factories in Mexico. None of it flowed or made any real sense, but the crowd fucking loved all of it.
There was also about 5 or 6 people outside the stadium holding up pro-immigration signs as I left. It was kinda depressing to look at to be honest. I didn't get to see them really interact with anyone, as my group left a little early, but if the crowd inside was any indication it was probably fairly hostile.
There was also about 5 or 6 people outside the stadium holding up pro-immigration signs as I left. It was kinda depressing to look at to be honest. I didn't get to see them really interact with anyone, as my group left a little early, but if the crowd inside was any indication it was probably fairly hostile.
Lmao
Donald Trump's popularity is like an inherent flaw in our system. It's the American equivalent of how the Athenians kept screwing over their most intelligent citizens out of spite and jealousy.
I blame TV. How could the founding fathers have accounted for it? There's no way Trump would be so popular if most people only knew him through pamphlets of poorly written crazy circulated around in coffee shops. Elections back in the day were dirty, but at least they weren't High School popularity contests. Can you imagine if we'd had these kinds of elections in 1860? Lincoln was too ugly and awkward to be electable by today's standards.
I blame TV. How could the founding fathers have accounted for it? There's no way Trump would be so popular if most people only knew him through pamphlets of poorly written crazy circulated around in coffee shops. Elections back in the day were dirty, but at least they weren't High School popularity contests. Can you imagine if we'd had these kinds of elections in 1860? Lincoln was too ugly and awkward to be electable by today's standards.
Damn right.
Please for the love of Christ don't elect Trump, US. The world doesn't need this.
Andrew Jackson was president. The US has been prone to populists since it's inception. Any democracy is when there are forces that preach simplicity and lots of people have lives that don't improve over a generation or more.
We'll need heroes to champion the people is this new right-wing distopian future of war and destitution, and more obscene wealth for like the 5 people who inherited all the wealth.
Sanders and J. Corbyn please save us.
chugen
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uh ok
biggersmaller
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I would love that! I doubt running for president would change that.
She needs to hit up the Clinton rally then, I'm sure Bill will be around.
Yes, I'm familiar with our history in that regard. Television media hasn't been good for our election process, which was my point. It isn't a question of populism, it's a question of competence. Andrew Jackson was our second worst president, but he didn't gain office by appealing to America's crazy voters and/or looking more handsome than the other guy in national debates. Being a war hero makes you electable, which can be problematic in other ways I suppose.
Pizza Booty
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"My first favorite book is the bible." *CHEERS* "Now I know how Billy Graham felt. We love Billy Graham." *CHEERS* "We're gonna build a wall!" *CHEERS*
Playing these fucktards like a fiddle
Playing these fucktards like a fiddle
cpp_is_king
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I remember that speech, lol. The delivery was classic.
You could tell he didn't believe a word of what he was saying. Trump clearly doesn't have a religious bone in his body. Trump has too big of an ego to believe in a God, he seems like he is likely aithest or at least agnostic.
America, please think if it's worth to recite "Trump" instead of another "Clinton" when naming all the American presidents.
Do the right thing.
I... I... can't... I.... HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
Do the right thing.
I... I... can't... I.... HAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAA
B-but our fellow nations Canada, the United Kingdom, and Australia didn't do the right thing.
Pop-O-Matic
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Nah, Trump definitely believes in God. He sees him every day in his mirror.
TheLaughingStock
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Republican strategists like the one quoted are annoying. Herp derp people are aggravated. When is he going to admit that the establishment Repub approach is the core problem?
Trump's ascent has been like an iq test for Facebook and Gaf. Turns out there are a lot of deeply stupid people who appear of normal intelligence at first blush. All they needed was this intellectual negative potentiator to help them blossom their inner dumbass.
I take your point on the photogenic aspect but if you look at the rhetoric from the campaigning and pamphlets of days gone by there is plenty of appeal to populist positions. I guess I'm not sold that the medium is actually the source of the problem.
birthday-suit
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Man...there should be a shadowy group of people who persuade Trump to drop out of the race.
Donald Trump will be a net positive for the United States if only because he indirectly reveals widespread what has been known about the Republican party.
And for his faults, he has brought up the issue of the buying of politicians.
I enjoy his campaign, and given statistics see the slightest possibility of him getting further than the nomination, not to mention the election. So allow him to run! He shall only waste his own money reserves.
birthday-suit
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The fact that he's gotten this far proves those people are here. And they arent going away.
I dont want Trump to win.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I thought Trump would be good at exposing the issues of bigotry in America, but he's just made bigots proud again which scares me. I don't think pushing "legitimate" candidates like Scott Walker to proposing ending the 14th amendment is at all productive for the American political system. The only positive Trump could bring to this cycle is if he runs as a third party and stops Jeb from becoming president.
speculawyer
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Donald Trump is a wrecking ball that is destroying the GOP. All of the GOP candidates will be revealed to be loopy extremists such that none of them will be able to win the general election. In doing that, he is providing an excellent service to America.
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