No tapes necessary, we know after MGS3 that BB and Ocelot were two of the original founders of the Patriots. They had a LOT of interaction after MGS3.
Metal Gear Solid V: The Phantom Pain |OT| The Man Who Sold The World
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No tapes necessary, we know after MGS3 that BB and Ocelot were two of the original founders of the Patriots. They had a LOT of interaction after MGS3.
Crossing Eden
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Only open world game I can think of with that issue is Souls games. I've only played(roommate's copy) for about three hours, how long until we can unlock tranq snipers and stuff?
Did they actually scan Sutherland for Snake's model? Because they don't look alike at all compared to Ocelot/Troy & Stephanie/Quiet.
LurkerPrime
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Snake looks weird because 90% of the time he's covered in 500% of his own blood all the time.
Of course it made DD's attraction to Snake instantly understandable.
Yeah, this happened to me. I'm not sure what it was, but fortunately it went away the second I left that menu.
Of course it made DD's attraction to Snake instantly understandable.
Yeah, this happened to me. I'm not sure what it was, but fortunately it went away the second I left that menu.
Then tapes should absolutely be necessary, right? It's not something that happened during the gameplay of either Peace Walker or Phantom Pain. If it's backstory, I wish the game was a little clearer about it.
AegisScott
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You get a new camera angle that clearly shows that the explosion wasn't Paz blowing up, but a rocket from the adjacent helicopter. Hence , 'She hit the water hard, but...."
I think the oddness comes from Troy's full performance too
face, voice, but mostly just the attitude change
he's just a friendly dude with a friendly face. he never was that
it's not terribly bothering me or anything, I just found it weird
HA, in your face Mission 16! After pulling my hair out with it, I S-ranked that SOB!
Had a real plan: took D-walker with me, grab the intel from the small camp, just tranqin everyone. Then hightail it to the airport where the truck is waiting on escorts. Leave the D-walker just outside the gates and jump over the fence where the truck is. Trigger the cut scene, get spotted, throw smokes and fulton the truck away. Run like hell to D-walker and shove its gatling gun in their face. Just a little shy of ten minutes
darkwing-buck
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Can you disarm enemies with CQC in this still?
Just my opinion, but I think a Metal Gear Solid game is defined by how heavy Kojima's touch is on it. And Kojima's mark is all over the place in this one. Got no problems accepting it for feeling like Metal Gear. If I do have problems with it later on, it'll be about which choices Kojima makes.
Like, I didn't enjoy MGS4, but it was absolutely a Metal Gear game.
That's....dissapointing. Snake and Kaz look fine to me, but I don't think I'll ever get used to Ocelot in this game. One thing I've always loved is seeing him age throughout the series and how each stage was so well developed. Like you can still see MGS3 Ocelot even in MGS4 Ocelot. And I think that's so important too, because in many ways Ocelot is the true main character of all of MGS.
But this is a serious misstep in that. He doesn't look like Ocelot at all. Such an odd and dissapointing choice for Kojima. Guess he just got caught up in wanting to make the game look more holywood, considering Ocelot is a face you see a lot.
More_Badass
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4.4 hours in and I'm only on the 4th mission, the Soviet commander extraction from all the demos they showed
Was sneaking in and a sandstorm rolled in, allowing me to easily infiltrate. Yeah, I love this game
Was sneaking in and a sandstorm rolled in, allowing me to easily infiltrate. Yeah, I love this game
darkwing-buck
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RE4 of Metal Gear Games.
It never dawned on me that "come to" is what you would say someone who was recovering consciousness was doing. From there I figured out "V" was a code name.
I thought it was more speaking of the game's release, which I guess is another interpretation but not why those words were used.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
The gameplay part of MGS5 is really good. The pre-engagement scouting and infiltrating, the various methods you can utilize, the wonderful control interface, ya buddies, running to the helicopter blasting "Maneater". All at 60fps with super-clean image quality. That's all dope as fuck.
But everything around it is kinda...not great? It's a bit of a failure of an open world. Like I mentioned before, traversal just sucks ass. Getting from one place to the other is a chore. There are closed off, blocked off paths everywhere. Its not particularly visually interesting, no memorable monuments to guide your eye, or NPCs or anything.
People complain with "what do you want, another UbiSoft collectathon", and I mean...the whole fuckin' game is a collectathon anyway lol. You collect black carrots and golden flowers, and minerals and resources, and soldiers and animals, and blueprints and weapons, and hostages and intel and its all part of this weird ass micromanage minigame. You go back to base, take a shower, realize that's jack all to do here besides smack your soldiers around and some boring target ranges, then fly back to the non-sandbox sandbox.
Maybe if there was any kind of narrative momentum, that could help in spades. All the other open worlds always have a "main path" you can get back to when you feel like progressing the game, but half of the missions in PP you do feel like filler. Which doesnt speak well to the Side-Ops which are like, ACTUAL filler, going back to the same outposts and camps the main missions already covered(or vice versa).
IDK its like...its like they didn't really understand the whole "open world game" thing? And they tried to marry various MGS concepts to an genre they clearly aren't familiar with and it doesn't all work?
None of this shit really matters when you're at the cool locations and experimenting/infiltrating/shooting/sneaking/blasting music, but there's a LOT of time spent in this game doing stuff that's not exactly great. That doesn't really feel like MGS, but some weird Splinter Cell/MGS/Monster Hunter...hybrid...thing.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
They used his face to 'track' the movements of Snakes face, and for obvious they couldn't make him look exactly like Keifer because he's already an established character. Like for Huey they probably used someone other than Christopher Randolph for motion capture.
Yeah, you hold LT after punching them a bit and you'll grab their gun.
I also thought one of its meanings was "what have things come to". Like, "jesus, where'd it all go so wrong?"
darkwing-buck
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Woah, didn't know that thanks!
TheDarkKnight774
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Man this game is great but It's also the hardest game for me in the franchise. So tough to do a clean mission. I've put In a lot of time but still only like 4 main missions in!
I do think I'm getting better....
I do think I'm getting better....
I think the game is still Kojima as hell. There's so many silly kind of over the top parallels to spiritual shit going on.
Big Boss having sharpnel on his head that looks like horns, him saying he's already a demon beyond hell, and (outer) heaven is not the place for him.
it's in yo face
Big Boss having sharpnel on his head that looks like horns, him saying he's already a demon beyond hell, and (outer) heaven is not the place for him.
it's in yo face
That is another way to look at it too. Clever use of words.
Question about the first mission:
while Ocelot is briefing you on the mission, he estimates that Miller only has ~3 days left or something. Does this translate into a real time limit for the mission? I kinda want to explore a bit and experiment with night/day soldier patterns but not if it will end the mission for me.
Big Boss tells you in MGS4's epilogue.
Crossing Eden
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Yea I know he did the facial capture I was just wondering if they had used scans of him for the actual model. Erik Brown did the body capture btw. Joonsten seems to be the only one who did all three that being facial, body and voice.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I just assumed they called him V because MSF called him Vic Boss
Intheflorsh
Banned
Sticking up guards is for scrubs, disarming is the only way to go.
Not surprising. That was such a massive infodump...
Bullet to the head from 50 yards away is the right way. Why put yourself at risk getting up close and personal?
LurkerPrime
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I got this awesome assault rifle with a rad scope. Once I actually started using it all engagements went from hour-long sneaking affairs to two minute sniper-sprees.
I am a Wolf. Perhaps even a White Wolf.
What's the keyboard equivalent of LT?
There's so many commands...
I am a Wolf. Perhaps even a White Wolf.
What's the keyboard equivalent of LT?
There's so many commands...
Well, LT was the radio in Ground Zeroes...
So, would it be Q here?
NO WAIT It was LB for radio
no idea then
whatever the aim button is
Thank you!
SlaughterX
Banned
Wow, that opening mission is pretty fucking awesome. Non stop action!
It's pretty easy to practice on Mother Base. You just knock their gun to the floor instead of grabbing it since you can't kill your own soldiers.
Intheflorsh
Banned
Because making guards lie down is the most effective strategy for a non lethal run. They never get up unless they're found or an alert is called.
I'm in a bind. I'm on mission 30 and I want to finish because the story is starting to actually ramp up and if I don't now no doubt someone will spoil it for me. But I'm worried I'm starting to burn out. The issues I had before are starting actually hinder my enjoyment in a big way. The game wants me to play in an open fashion because its an open world game but then puts loads of barriers and invisible walls in the way.
I mean what happened to this?
I mean what happened to this?
Death Metalist
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I'll take collecting materials,blueprints and recruits that actually benefit me in expanding my motherbase as well as leveling it up over feathers and flags aka useless collectibles that have no use in terms of gameplay and narrative. The only thing I'm not sure of is the animals, don't know if catching them does any good other than just making yourself a zoo.
LurkerPrime
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The motherbase staff collection stuff is so silly and yet so fun. Gotta catch 'em all!
RMB, then. Thanks!
RMB, then. Thanks!
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I actually like the quiet, simpleton approach. I just can't stand Kiefer Sutherland's VA.
Loving the game though.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
I'm gonna try fulton extracting people when I'm at max capacity, I remember if you did that in Peace Walker Kaz would call you and he'd basically be like "STOP WE'RE OVER CROWDED HERE" and you'd hear a bunch of people screaming in the background and it would sound like kaz gets overrun by the crowd before it cuts out.
Right click
Right click
Pff, non-lethal. They're dirty Soviets. Remember that.
because I'm Big Boss, and I want those fame points.
It's the button that makes you aim your gun. You just take their gun and aim it instead.
I want to eat those animals, damn it!
Just so I can hear Snake critique food.
"DELICIOUS!"
"I WANT SOME MORE!"
Anthony Soprano
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i asked before i went to bed, gonna try again. im afraid of setting foot in spoilers thread to ask.
how do you get the music tape for
? i just left
and didn't get it.
how do you get the music tape for
snake eater
Afghanistan
MissCauthon
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So I completed ground zero main objectiv, and savec Kojima with a S rank. Saved my data for transfer. all went well. I boot Phantom Pain up, connect to server, all swell and i download the saved data from Ground Zero. All went well.
It is said that kojima transfers to PP, i visit my main base and he is no where to be found. When i check the list of all people hired at mother base. He is not in that list... So what did i do wrong...
It is said that kojima transfers to PP, i visit my main base and he is no where to be found. When i check the list of all people hired at mother base. He is not in that list... So what did i do wrong...
Nothing's wrong. He'll show up after you complete your first mainline mission, I think.
The guys you saved trickle back in from GZ over time.
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