Tom Brady beats NFL in 'Deflategate' court case, league's 4-game suspension nullified
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TheLostBigBoss
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Jets kicker didn't get suspended for a similar incident.
Simply Sarah
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Yeah, that's one of the undercurrents here that I think most people aren't aware of. Binding arbitration as it currently stands is pretty damn busted.
ReturnOfTheRAT
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And they're going to appeal.
"Roger Goodell statement: "We will appeal today's ruling in order to uphold the ... responsibility to protect the integrity of the game."" - @BenVolin
- @MikeGarafolo
His time will be over soon.
Have to disagree with you here. It surely isn't proof, but the ball boy referring to himself as the deflator, referencing getting new kicks surrounded by cash, etc looks pretty damning in my opinion.
TheLostBigBoss
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he wasn't the ball boy
what you are doing is having a conclusion and forming evidence to fit that conclusion instead of having evidence and finding conclusion.
That text happened in May 2014.
So he got that for ...... nothing?
The balls were not deflated outside of normal pressure reduction (ideal gas law). Unless he also got paid to deflate 3 of the 4 Colt balls that were tested?
Duxxy3
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It's a huge blow to the commissioner. This particular suspension doesn't mean a damn thing to him, but the power to hand out suspensions means the world. This ruling significantly weakens his power to punish.
GalacticToast
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And they're going to appeal.
"Roger Goodell statement: "We will appeal today's ruling in order to uphold the ... responsibility to protect the integrity of the game."" - @BenVolin
- @MikeGarafolo
Have the same judge rule on the appeal. See how Goodell likes it.
there must have been a second deflator!!!!!!!!111
That NRG Turf.
You are mad that a guy didn't get punished for quite possibly, nothing happening? And the reason for that is you don't like the Patriots?
Sorry, refs locker room attendant.
lol no. As long as the owners keep raking in billions Rodger isn't going anywhere
So, just to be clear, your argument is that a NY federal judge saw Tom Brady and said "well, the law clearly is against him, but ... it's Tom Brady!"
And please don't make the argument that Brady has money and power to fight this, or great lawyers, because the NFL has magnitudes more money than he does and a shit load of lawyers.
People just need to accept that, whether or not Brady did anything, the NFL fucked this whole thing up from the beginning, and continued to fuck it up all the way through. They pressed a weak case, overreached on the punishment, and basically said "fuck off" during the appeal. That's why they lost today. This isn't really about Brady or footballs or whatever, it's about the NFL trying to do whatever they want and the federal court putting them in their place.
You're at your job. You take some printer paper from the supply closet to bring home with you. Your company has rules in print that stealing office supplies results in a verbal warning from HR. Instead, the boss calls you in, gives you a verbal and a written warning, and docks you a month's pay, and demotes you. You sue the company because they didn't follow their own rules, and you win.
You overhear your coworker whispering later on, "Just goes to show that the rules only apply to certain people." Are they right?
I'm not saying what he did or didn't do. Just that McNally and Jatsremski (sp?) various texting conversations seem pretty shady to me.
I can't believe the NFL is appealing. Maybe they say they will do it to keep up appearances then quietly drop it when it will only be a footnote in the news.
The judge buried them. If he had a single reason for overturning the decision I can see how the NFL would be able to drill down on that reasoning and convince an appeal court that the judge overstepped his bounds but he gave THREE seperate and distinct reasons for why he vacated the NFL's ruling. It will be almost impossible to convince a court that a judge was wrong three times in the one ruling.
The ruling has a triple lock on it and all are based on matters of fact. Their reason for appeal comes down to the fact Goodell thinks he can do whatever he wants. The court feels he needs to stick to the negotiated CBA and standard rules of arbitration. Again this looks like Goodell putting himself in a position to be bitch slapped.
The judge buried them. If he had a single reason for overturning the decision I can see how the NFL would be able to drill down on that reasoning and convince an appeal court that the judge overstepped his bounds but he gave THREE seperate and distinct reasons for why he vacated the NFL's ruling. It will be almost impossible to convince a court that a judge was wrong three times in the one ruling.
The ruling has a triple lock on it and all are based on matters of fact. Their reason for appeal comes down to the fact Goodell thinks he can do whatever he wants. The court feels he needs to stick to the negotiated CBA and standard rules of arbitration. Again this looks like Goodell putting himself in a position to be bitch slapped.
LyleLanley
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"Officially from the league, there will be no stay pursued. Tom Brady will play during the appeal of Judge Berman's decision. See ya Thursday" - @MikeGarafolo
Well at least there's that.
Well at least there's that.
So?
They had one texts which make you go "hrm". The guy calling himself a deflater. I agree, yet in 10000 Texts and emails from Brady, also the phones of every Patriot Employee, including Belichick never used that word, or anything similar.
It was in the report....
Oh .... and the balls were under-inflated if you believe in gravity, moisture and Global Warming. There was no deflation.
Edvardelis
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What's surprising is that it's not the first time the NFL has screwed up with a punishment. You'd think they would have learned by now..
Unfortunately for you, I don't believe in moisture
Rockin' Ranger
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Teddy Bridgewater and Cam Newton didn't get suspended for ball being heated on the sideline last year either.
The Albatross
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Considering no player had ever been suspended for football PSI prior to or since, I think it confirms that the rules apply to all players.
DrForester
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The NFL's case basically rests on trying to argue that despite having no evidence, having no proof, having science prove nothing happened, that they should still be able to impose a huge punishment because the CBA, in their interpretation, allows it.
Simply Sarah
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They're not going to try because they have smart enough lawyers to understand that the chance of this ruling being stayed would be somewhere between zero and none. There is pretty much negative legal support for a stay of the ruling at this point.
Hahaha! Damn moisture!
The Albatross
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Don't hold it against Goddell, a guy who would rather spend tens of millions of dollars trying to unrighteous suspend one of the most popular, upstanding players in the league, rather than tens of millions of dollars on, say, concussion research.
teruterubozu
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Oh he's spending millions of dollars on concussion research...to cover it up.
TheLostBigBoss
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but there isn't a link between concussions and NFL players committing suicide or having degenerative life styles, so whats the need for research!
Duxxy3
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I they would have pursued a stay it just would have got the appeal shot down even quicker. I doubt we'll hear much of anything regarding the appeal during the regular season. The appeal is just about the leagues power at this point.
So why bother having rules?
The new JABEE yall.
DragonSworne
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Corruption in our courts.
TheLostBigBoss
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or JABEE's alt
Simply Sarah
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No, no. The latter would require admitting there is a problem and talking about it. Besides, they are doing research on brain trauma: Does well does sticking your head in the sand protect against having to deal with the brain trauma in football issue?
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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its all just one big conspiracy
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