Phil Spencer Discusses Why FFXIV Isn't on Xbox (Contradictions?)

I'm here, I didn't like the dudes comment, he seemed to assume like alot of other gaffers do about MS , I vent alot on twitter, I stop posting because I went to bed and had home improvement things to do in the morning. And I don't post like I used to in any war threads, mainly sticking to OTs and off-topic. My twitter was derailing the thread, if any of you guys want to continue PM me or twitter, unless you attack me there, where I'll most likely block you.
 
Your logic suffers.

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He was here multiple times. Check the Pancakes post.

So...Lmao? I don't even.


He's not banned or anything.


Not here to defend himself? It's not like he was banned or anything, he could of dropped in at any time, and did apparently.

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I read people mentioned somebody being banned so I assumed he was my bad brehs.
 
it's still outselling the 360 at a consistent rate (I think) and in the U.S, is sorta giving the Ps4 a run for its money too. sales are pretty close.
Everyone knows that's only because Microsoft is basically giving the console away with the insane bundles the had during last holiday(where they sold a huge number of units) on top of the price drop. If Sony does anything remotely similar to that it would be explosive imo even more so then it was for MS.
 
Everyone knows that's only because Microsoft is basically giving the console away with the insane bundles the had during last holiday(where they sold a huge number of units) on top of the price drop. If Sony does anything remotely similar to that it would be explosive imo even more so then it was for MS.

well A price drop is going to happen for both, I expect MS kills it again for NPD with the lineup they have this fall.
 
I'm confused, as I sit here and read this whole thread while waiting for my long exposure shots to finish taking, who is this Statham fellow? Does he work for a dev team or something or is he just a regular Gaffer?
 
Well technically, two games this fall isn't considered a lineup in my book...but to each his own :P

Whether that constitutes a line up for you or I is immaterial. If MS enjoys the sales that they did last winter then it will have been mission accomplished.
 
It's an MMO. The game communicates with dedicated servers maintained by and for the company that operates the MMO, using their own encryption to prevent things like denial of service attacks to disrupt service and players cheating to damage the in-game economy (which is often a real-money economy for all intents and purposes in modern games), as well as, in this case, ensure only paying customers are able to play.

The game does not need or use Live's servers or architecture. The only reason you have ever had to pay Live fees to use an MMO on an X-Box console is because Microsoft realized they were able to get away with charging you for it.

Do you require more detecting, or can I go back to this murder investigation? This honestly seemed like a job for Self-Evident GAF.

I didn't say it needs to use Live servers, it connects to live servers no matter what way you try to spin it. What you wrote doesn't make sense.

Everything on the Xbox the live network is encrypted, last time I saw any documentation on xbox live. Yes even if the publishers OWN the server they users are connecting to, it needs to handle that encryption as a handoff from xbox live would be required.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Why even bother responding? "Self-Evident GAF" my butt cheeks.
 
not sure how he is lying there....what he says is so vague and noncommittal. How is he lying by saying 'I can't talk about it'?

and yeah, we all know it's because microsoft are bastards when it comes to cross platform gaming. It's certainly not sony that's stopping it from happening.
 
not sure how he is lying there....what he says is so vague and noncommittal. How is he lying by saying 'I can't talk about it'?

and yeah, we all know it's because microsoft are bastards when it comes to cross platform gaming. It's certainly not sony that's stopping it from happening.
The lying sentiment comes from Spencer seeming to imply there's a deal in place. When we know there's not based on what Yoshida has said.
 
I'm here, I didn't like the dudes comment, he seemed to assume like alot of other gaffers do about MS , I vent alot on twitter, I stop posting because I went to bed and had home improvement things to do in the morning. And I don't post like I used to in any war threads, mainly sticking to OTs and off-topic. My twitter was derailing the thread, if any of you guys want to continue PM me or twitter, unless you attack me there, where I'll most likely block you.
I never attacked you. Why'd you block me? I thought we were cool.
 
Lmao people call Statham salty but yall getting mad that he vented in twitter.... I don't even.

I didn't comment on it but I found the twitter image funny. What is there to be mad about with this for anyone? That he has a twitter account, and people to console him when he feels alone?
 
I didn't comment on it but I found the twitter image funny. What is there to be mad about with this for anyone? That he has a twitter account, and people to console him when he feels alone?

it's kind of creepy that people on here go as far as going onto someone twitter account and posting it on here, i mean, super creeper. (especially when it's just regular person who post here)
 
I commented on it. You called us all nerds. I was salty. Just kidding.

Anyways this thread is about Phil Spencer and his direct, no-nonsense attitude. And we are constructively deconstructing that notion. And we're trying our best not to make fun of him, but it's hard. Reeeal hard. (How has he not been crucified in more GIFs? No one wants to make them?) We'd really get a reputation as PS4 fanboys if we had our finest gifmasters on some good solo Phil material.
 
it's kind of creepy that people on here go as far as going onto someone twitter account and posting it on here, i mean, super creeper. (especially when it's just regular person who post here)

Ah yes, I mean who even uses twitter? It's not like it's the largest social media application on Earth at the moment or anything. No one on here could of possibly been following a fellow Gaffers on twitter!

The answer must be that Gaf is just full of stalkers.

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it's kind of creepy that people on here go as far as going onto someone twitter account and posting it on here, i mean, super creeper. (especially when it's just regular person who post here)

The only reason I know of it is because it was posted here. I'm sure a lot of people here are in the same boat. The content in the post was negative towards gaf not specific gaf members with names. I don't follow MS looking for negatives, but he said everyone. Hurts my fweelings :(
 
Because ps4 hasn't had a price cut.
well that's sony's own fault, I guess.
Everyone knows that's only because Microsoft is basically giving the console away with the insane bundles the had during last holiday(where they sold a huge number of units) on top of the price drop. If Sony does anything remotely similar to that it would be explosive imo even more so then it was for MS.
maybe so, but it worked for them. when I look at graphs/ratios from zhuge or whoever else, it doesn't look all that bad for mS anyway. just comparing it to Ps4 makes them look so shadowed.
 
I didn't say it needs to use Live servers, it connects to live servers no matter what way you try to spin it. What you wrote doesn't make sense.

Everything on the Xbox the live network is encrypted, last time I saw any documentation on xbox live. Yes even if the publishers OWN the server they users are connecting to, it needs to handle that encryption as a handoff from xbox live would be required.

Your X-Box One is capable of communicating with distant servers because it has a modulator/demodulator and a connection to the physical network infrastructure that the distant end it's trying to communicate with is on. The device does not require X-Box Live to do this. X-Box Live is not a physical telecommunications network. X-Box Live is not an Internet Service Provider. X-Box Live is not a modem.

X-Box Live is useful or necessary for some games because those games have no dedicated servers to handle server-side operation of the game or matchmaking services in games that use peer-to-peer connections. MMORPGs have their own servers, they do not need or want to communicate with or "over" (whatever that means) X-Box Live at any time.

Microsoft forcing you to connect your device to their servers before it can establish a connection with an outside agency is not a physical or logical requirement, it is something they've done artificially for (at best) the arguable goal of protecting users from themselves. There is absolutely no reason an MMO on XB1 could not be permitted to connect directly to servers without using Live as an intermediary, which has long been the argument against such services being behind Live's paywall.

Try this: hook a computer with a modem up to a valid network connection, and try to connect to an MMO's servers without Live. Does it work? An XB1 is a computer with a modem. Why do you seem to think it wouldn't work?

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about.

I'm curious to see if you can find someone who does "know what they're talking about" who would come to any other conclusion. Maybe they would have something substantial to add to a discussion instead of just making an extremely specious assertion about the way online games handle network traffic and then then calling out for "Detective GAF" to prove their hare-brained hypothesis.
 
Ah yes, I mean who even uses twitter? It's not like it's the largest social media application on Earth at the moment or anything. No one on here could of possibly been following a fellow Gaffers on twitter!

The answer must be that Gaf is just full of stalkers.

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No, you're right. Everyone here on gaf follows statham for some reason; detractors included obviously.

It's not like you're cruising through a billion profiles and accidentally follow him.
 
Killing it? And the whole lineup thing is subjective as hell. If you prefer jrpgs over shooters, there's not shit for you on xb1 right now.

This. And the reason for the XBO's successful holiday season from last year was because of the Assassin's Creed Unity bundle, not because of exclusives. However, the script has flipped as Sony is releasing 3 different Battlefront bundles and has marketing rights to Black Ops 3.


If you want to play Japanese games you should buy a PS4.
 
This. And the reason for the XBO's successful holiday season from last year was because of the Assassin's Creed Unity bundle, not because of exclusives. However, the script has flipped as Sony is releasing 3 different Battlefront bundles and has marketing rights to Black Ops 3.

So they should absolutely clean house and destroy the competition in sales, right?
 
If that's what you think, but that is not my interpretation.

Ehh, it sounded like you said the only reason Xbox did well last year was because of one bundle, and now Sony has 'better' bundles? Unless you were just pointing out random bundles for some reason and contrasting them because..

So you think MS absolutely clean house and destroy Sony in sales?

Yeah, absolutely. Especially in Japan. Just like I said in my post.
 
I didn't say it needs to use Live servers, it connects to live servers no matter what way you try to spin it. What you wrote doesn't make sense.

Everything on the Xbox the live network is encrypted, last time I saw any documentation on xbox live. Yes even if the publishers OWN the server they users are connecting to, it needs to handle that encryption as a handoff from xbox live would be required.

You clearly have no idea what you are talking about. Why even bother responding? "Self-Evident GAF" my butt cheeks.

And you think that's the reason? A fucking encryption? LOLOLOL!
 


If you like games like tales of zestiria, Dragon quest heroes, soma, disgaea 5, Bloodborne the old hunters, and if you wanted to play the uc4 beta, ps4 is just fine for the holiday, let alone what's coming in 2016, also, why are you bringing up something completely unrelated in this topic? Feeling backed into a corner?
 
If you like games like tales of zestiria, Dragon quest heroes, soma, disgaea 5, Bloodborne the old hunters, and if you wanted to play the uc4 beta, ps4 is just fine for the holiday, let alone what's coming in 2016, also, why are you bringing up something completely unrelated in this topic? Feeling backed into a corner?

Uhmm, did you just reply his post 2 times?
 
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