sti4thewin
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Chris Cornell still has my favorite bond song from Casino Royal. But there is no denying that Sam Smith can sing. I think this song will grow on people the more they hear it, and can't wait to hear it in theaters
SPECTRE theme song released - Writing's On The Wall by Sam Smith
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Woody Invincible
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You Know My Name will never be topped.
Isn't that enough? lol
nrvalleytime
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Where's Adele and Chris Cornell when you need them.
It's not bad. Just bland.
It's not bad. Just bland.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Where's the drums?
Why no drums?
ANYWAY: Here's the thing with Bond themes, most of the time they only really start to grab you in context of the film. There's only a few (and they're mostly the really good ones) that work straight out the gate as compelling compositions in and of themselves.
My favorite example is "You Know My Name" actually. I very much remember some similar sounding criticisms to this song, upon its release. And by itself, while it's cool, it seemed like yet another step on the weird career path Chris Cornell was taking at the time, and it got shrugged off.
It wasn't until people saw how it fit in the opening sequence, and how Arnold weaved that theme throughout the rest of the film, that people felt it working on them. To the point where now people swear it was always the shit. Well no, it wasn't.
Will this have the same thing happen? I dunno. Like I said - needs some fuckin DRUMS, man. This shit isn't a ballad, it's an elegy. But then again - maybe the movie makes that work in context. Maybe next time you hear this after having seen Spectre, you'll be like "Oh, shit, okay, this DOES fit."
Or maybe it'll just be this slow, stringy thing all stretched thin and pointing nowhere still.
Why no drums?
ANYWAY: Here's the thing with Bond themes, most of the time they only really start to grab you in context of the film. There's only a few (and they're mostly the really good ones) that work straight out the gate as compelling compositions in and of themselves.
My favorite example is "You Know My Name" actually. I very much remember some similar sounding criticisms to this song, upon its release. And by itself, while it's cool, it seemed like yet another step on the weird career path Chris Cornell was taking at the time, and it got shrugged off.
It wasn't until people saw how it fit in the opening sequence, and how Arnold weaved that theme throughout the rest of the film, that people felt it working on them. To the point where now people swear it was always the shit. Well no, it wasn't.
Will this have the same thing happen? I dunno. Like I said - needs some fuckin DRUMS, man. This shit isn't a ballad, it's an elegy. But then again - maybe the movie makes that work in context. Maybe next time you hear this after having seen Spectre, you'll be like "Oh, shit, okay, this DOES fit."
Or maybe it'll just be this slow, stringy thing all stretched thin and pointing nowhere still.
Die Another Day is a great song, just not a great Bond song.
This melodramatic borefest is neither.
Woody Invincible
Banned
It WAS always the shit. It's been my ringtone for almost a decade.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
You were one of the chosen few who realized its potential straight out the gate, then.
I remember listening to it in our program director's office and going "You don't hire Cornell if your'e not gonna let him go for it, right? Right? WHERE IS IT"
vainglorious
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lol.
not signed up with Spotify, don't live in Britain, don't want to spend a dollar on iTunes (and don't have iTunes on my work computer, and I have an Android phone)
I just want YouTube or Vimeo or Soundcloud or something
Quoted for truth. Just relistened to it after about half of Writing's on the Wall. Shane about the movie, but the theme's great!
Alcotholic
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I did defend the decision to have Sam Smith write a song for the Bond franchise and I still do, but this song is disappointing. I like the big horns. Its got a sense of class, but the song builds up to no where.
It's good but not great. "You Know My Name" and "Skyfall" are still way better. Man "You Know My Name" is just the perfect Bond song though. From the first two words of the song you're just like "Alright I'm pumped up to watch this Bond movie! Let's go!"
I like it about as much as "Another Way to Die".
Really need to see it paired with the visuals of the opening though. Sometimes those opening intros just make the song.
I like it about as much as "Another Way to Die".
Really need to see it paired with the visuals of the opening though. Sometimes those opening intros just make the song.
I think it's hard to judge a Bond theme without the context of the whole opening sequence and the tone of the rest of the film. The way the opening scene moves into the song and title sequence, the title sequence itself, how it comes out of it, etc. They are more than just a simple song.
I really, really like the string part of this song. Sounds very Bond to me. Wonder if that'll come back in the main soundtrack.
Hard to follow up Skyfall though. That was some good shit all around.
I really, really like the string part of this song. Sounds very Bond to me. Wonder if that'll come back in the main soundtrack.
Hard to follow up Skyfall though. That was some good shit all around.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
I just realized how much I love the James Bond: Blood Stone theme! Never played the game, apparently it sucked - but damn is the main theme REALLY good!
SpacePirate Ridley
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You are right, in fact it got reworked because people criticised when it was released on its first version as not sounding bond enough.
They did a 2nd version that has more orchestration and that one is the one that people like and the one that sounds in the movie.
Speak the truth. I thought 24 sounded super Bond-ish even for Lana, then I heard it was her try at it. Hope she make 24's video super Bond just for good measure.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
Thanks!
Lana can join Muse now, Johnny Cash, and a bunch of other artists who almost got that Bond gig and ended up on the outside.
The Almost-Bond songs are some really fun curiosities.
Scrupulous
Banned
I like it sounds quite tragic like it to be at the end of the film for a bitter sweet ending.
Ohhh which Muse song was supposed to be for 007?
Lone_Prodigy
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Music is good (you know it's Bond) and he's a good singer but agree that it's quite bland.
Maybe Skyfall was overplayed on the radio but it started sounding very generic to me.
The Casino Royale song is one of my favourites.
Maybe Skyfall was overplayed on the radio but it started sounding very generic to me.
The Casino Royale song is one of my favourites.
ComputerBlue
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The instrumental is fucking fantastic as are all Bond songs but man, this dude sucks. He did a great job of taking a Bond theme and turning it into a average pop song that sounds like 90% of the garbage out there.
bearythebear
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Made me wanna listen to Skyfall theme instead. Pretty lame song.
Supremacy
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This doesn't sound remotely like 90% of anything currently running on the pop charts.
That's part of the problem, actually. It doesn't sound pop enough.
What the hell
crazyrabbits
Banned
Exactly.
Every Bond theme has some sort of thematic relevance to the work it's about. You Know My Name is a bit rougher and edgier, and Skyfall is equal parts melancholy and bombastic (to reflect the destruction of the "old guard").
I don't know what "Writing's on the Wall" is supposed to be relevant to, and I've read the leaked script. No way in hell would that characterize the concepts in that film.
The only thing that saves it is the orchestra, and even then, it's way too downbeat for what they're going for.
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Why is the theme for a throwaway Bond video game better than the one they actually decided to attach to one of the films. How does that happen?
That is actually pretty good. If I heard that without context, I would instantly think "Hey this sounds like a Bond song."
Lone_Prodigy
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vainglorious
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The husky tonal quality of Shirley's voice just sells that fucking song. I wish Garbage released music more frequently. It's always top-tier stuff.
RocketDarkness
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Sölf;179909056 said:
That game was amazing in every way. While Goldeneye may overall be a better game, Everything or Nothing was a better Bond game. Absolutely made you feel like 007. And of course, the theme song was perfect as well.
Yeah, I always thought it was a decent theme.
Also, the game doesn't suck. It's 5 hours of solid, throwaway fun.
ComputerBlue
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To be fair, I don't listen to modern pop. So maybe it was an unfair thing to say.
What I can say though is that it has a mediocre, melodramatic, yet catchy hook sung by an extremely beautiful voice but it lacks a strong melody and it's harmonically simple. Whenever I do hear emotionally driven modern pop it sounds just like that. It's formulaic. Where's the strong hook? Wheres the melody? Most importantly, where is the identity?
Late as hell edit: But I should add I'm strictly talking about the vocals, if you were to listen to the Capella. The rest is fantastic.
Cloud Strife
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I was actually digging it, until the entire tone pitch changed with "How do I live?"
Now I just burst out laughing in my school's library. Wow.
Now I just burst out laughing in my school's library. Wow.
Harry Stewart
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To quote Michael Pena in Observe and Report, "There's nothing good about this at all." I kept hoping the chorus would save it, since it takes 2 painful minutes to get to it, but not even. I'm already cringing at the idea of spending several minutes listening to this song at full blast in a crowded movie theatre. Like Die Another Day.
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