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President Obama Is Pissed (Oregon Shooting Press Conference)
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Mr. Giggles
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edit: nvm
That's the most disturbing thing. It's not a handful of gun nuts, it's thousands of people. Probably hundreds of thousands of people. Their pro-gun arguments are ridiculous and fall flat every time, but it's like talking to a brick wall. Daily mass murders. Same old stubborn arguments.
Future PhaZe
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interesting take, damn
Fixed. Graph should start at 0.
Well holy shit. That's a scary ass number at the top.
Thank you, between Obamas speech and reading that gun control thread the entire day I needed something to cheer me up.
Ignatz Mouse
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Y'know, I see the Chicago thing popping up on FB too, and it's really a fallacy.
The administration doesn't point to Chicago violence to try to inspire new laws because people largely don't care about inner-city violence.
But you can bet your lunch money that improving the situation there is a key goal of any proposed legislation.
The administration doesn't point to Chicago violence to try to inspire new laws because people largely don't care about inner-city violence.
But you can bet your lunch money that improving the situation there is a key goal of any proposed legislation.
Canadians feel the same way as you guys. It's just mind-boggling how insane the US is becoming.
Same in Sweden. We've never had the same kind of gun culture to work ourselves from as you Australians, but we are happy we've never had to either and got a good set of gun laws to keep us in check to start with.
infinit777
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Honestly, there needs to be (or probably is) a way to watch youtube videos without giving the person a view/ ad revenue.
People actually did this? Fuck those people
People continue to do this.
Baraka in the White House
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At this point the only thing that might move Americans back in favor of gun control is if the next few mass shooters were black and/or BLM protesters started exercising their 2nd Amendment rights in public.
Thanks for the laugh, I needed that.
And at least in the comment section of this video the reasonable ones seem to outnumber the idiots.
Veritigo_X
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People actually did this? Fuck those people
We've got people on this very forum that admit to thinking Sandy Hook never actually happened.
ElectricBlanketFire
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Seriously. Obama comes out with fire and that's the headline they go with?
StarCreator
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I fear, and I hope this does not happen, but the only thing that is going to change the status quo is if a gunman successfully infiltrates Congress while it is in session and shoots the place up. We've already proven with Gabrielle Giffords that just shooting a congressman in their home state isn't enough.
I reiterate that I don't condone this action or want it to happen, but I honestly don't see any other way of spurring quick change.
I reiterate that I don't condone this action or want it to happen, but I honestly don't see any other way of spurring quick change.
Mysterious
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@XxJonBradburnxX: @CNN cancer, heart disease, and car accidents each have killed far more people than gun violence. Why pick terrorism to compare it to?
Why am I not surprised anymore lol
PumpkinSpice
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I actually kinda agree. Let's put lots of effort into fixing traffic violence as well!
LiquidSword
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Yep pretty much got the exact same response from someone on Facebook. It's pathetic
Triggerhappytel
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This guy should be locked in a secure room so he can't hurt himself or anyone else.
Veritigo_X
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Yeah, I was actually frightened for his safety when he pulled out his gun.
Frustrated_me
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Kinda has the same eye stare as robert durst.. This man is very scary to me, I wouldn't want to be anywhere near him.
Vicetrailia
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Gov versus Armed Citizens is primitive, and we're past those possibilities. Giving up arms has no bearing on your basic rights.
Guns make life more dangerous by virtue of existing. The ease to which they are obtainable is the beast that feeds the machine. Today your right as a human to defend yourself against threats to your life, liberty, and your pursuit of happiness has relevance because of criminals. But the root cause is what it is.
Guns make life more dangerous by virtue of existing. The ease to which they are obtainable is the beast that feeds the machine. Today your right as a human to defend yourself against threats to your life, liberty, and your pursuit of happiness has relevance because of criminals. But the root cause is what it is.
Car related fatalities are actually a problem, however unrelated from gun violence, and you see a lot of cities in the US doing a lot to curb it by trying to reduce traffic and replanning roads to allow for safer pedestrian usage. So if you really want to use that as an example, sure, we can talk about how our government is actually recognizing the problem and doing things to control it. And it works. So let's use the same mentality and legislation towards guns, which have a much more singular purpose.
Mysterious
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We are working towards preventing deaths related to cancer and heart disease. We have laws and regulations that mitigate deaths from vehicle accidents, and are working towards more safety features and laws.
Unlike the above three, we have an easy solution to gun violence, that is proven to work in many other western countries, including Canada: regulated gun control. People in these countries can still own guns for the same uses these people would want them, but their regulation has drastically decreased the accessibility to a gun for other uses and thus deaths caused by it are lowered. You can't regulate cancer and heart disease. Vehicle usage is already regulated and is still being researched into mitigating accidents.
Unlike the above three, we have an easy solution to gun violence, that is proven to work in many other western countries, including Canada: regulated gun control. People in these countries can still own guns for the same uses these people would want them, but their regulation has drastically decreased the accessibility to a gun for other uses and thus deaths caused by it are lowered. You can't regulate cancer and heart disease. Vehicle usage is already regulated and is still being researched into mitigating accidents.
Triggerhappytel
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Would be fucking funny if he accidentally blew his own head off during a live stream though.
Well maybe not that, kind of extreme. I was kind of expecting him to shoot himself in the leg or something though.
And to think it was the right wing party in Australia that got rid of the guns too. Try imagining that in America. Also I smirked at this from the Wikipedia article of Australia's gun laws:
Basically the USA served as an example of us Australians of what not to do.
RPGCrazied
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Kudos to Obama. Sadly his words aren't going to do anything. Let us hope a Republican doesn't win 2017 presidency, cause most of them don't want stricter gun laws.
People actually did this? Fuck those people
Not even just online too, but in actual town hall meetings, to the parents' faces.
I mean, if his counterpoint is that we should be shifting a lot of the billions that go into military spending over to cancer research or public transportation infrastructure, then I agree!
Hundreds of thousands!? Try millions
CharlieDigital
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The best response to the Chicago Scenario is to go along with it and say something like: "Gee, Wyatt, you're right. I think they should give all of those gang members guns; that just might reduce gun violence in Chicago."
This happened after Sandy Hook:
The most recent Quinnipiac poll, taken a few days ago (before the shooting) has support at 93%. This is, of course, if respondents are directly asked about background checks. It's a start.
Depends on the state. A few years back there was a bank in Texas giving out guns when you opened an account with them like they were fucking toasters.
paparazzo
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Great speech; helps solidify my voting for the Dem next year.
Of course, the idiot gun-nut at work today was yelling about how this wouldn't have happened if schools weren't gun free-zones, as they're "actually killing-spree zones because no one is carrying there." He also has a small side business selling guns.
Of course, the idiot gun-nut at work today was yelling about how this wouldn't have happened if schools weren't gun free-zones, as they're "actually killing-spree zones because no one is carrying there." He also has a small side business selling guns.
Ugh...to contrast the fact that America can't pass any gun control laws but terrorism laws are passed willy-nilly. Ask yourself why that is? I hope you do a little more critical thinking or maybe actually watch the video since the answer was in it?
America if the people on Twitter are representative of your nation...I don't even.
Edit: I know he'll never see it, but man, this just boggles my mind!
Hello? This is Hailun!
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Just showed up in my facebook feed. These comments... damn..
Small sample:
And there are over 4,000 of them.
I don't understand why you would be friends with people like this.
Pai Pai Master
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I hope you corrected him and informed him that this school was concealed carry friendly
I don't understand why you would be friends with people like this.
Those aren't his facebook friends.
RunLikeH3LL
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In TX dealers are required to background check, not private sellers. My background was checked when I bought my gun.
http://smartgunlaws.org/background-checks-in-texas/
Sorry, it was Michigan.
Every day the president receives a top secret document from the director of national intelligence which fuses information from the CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA, and other intelligence agencies into one daily briefing. And I've heard that it includes every shooting with 4 or more victims since these are considered emergency response situations for the FBI.
It must get tiring to, every day or two, hear about it. That's ignoring the shootings which involve 3 or fewer people. It's the presidents job to listen to and receive such information, and to raise it to the attention of Congress if the administration believes it needs to be addressed. It must be frustrating for his pleas to fall on deaf ears
paparazzo
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Didn't know that. I left him to other person in the conversation shortly after he started yelling, as I don't engage people who raise their voice to make a point.
I was totally going to post the same sentiment. Also cancer, pretty sure there is a shit ton of research going on to try and fix that. Yet no cash going in to fix the gun issue.
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