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Jesus Christ, all the useful specs versions are expensive. Misleading conference.

"All this starts at $899 and $1499."
Goes to store...

"Well, not really this..."

 

[PdotMichael]

You can flip between a desktop and tablet version of the OS.

We all used a Surface. We can't stop the act that the tablet experience on W10 is even close to iOS.

If you make a scale from tablet (with the iPad as reference) to ultrabook, the surface would be closer to the ultrabook side. That's more or less the selling point of the Pro series.

 

[see5harp]

It kinda sucks that the SP4 went up in price for the baseline. I know you get more storage, but still, the cheapest entry point is $100 more. What do you guys think? I just got a SP3 for $630. It doesn't seem to make sense to return it and get the SP4 at $899 right?

Probably not for the performance alone. But it is a thinner device. Not sure that's worth a few hundred.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

Wtf are those storage prices

$400 more to go from 256gb to 512gb

Another $500 for 1tb???

Might do a i5/512gb

 

[XiaNaphryz]

Given the price for a high end SurfaceBook, I guess I'll just go with a mid or high spec SP4. I have a dedicated desktop for any real power needs, would have been nice to snag a Surface Book if the price was a bit lower.

 

[Doc Holliday]

I want the Surface Book bad, but it seems the SP4 with decent specs is the way to go. Too much $$$ for the discreet GPU option

 

[eznark]

lol the 1TB 16GB ram SP4 is also $2700. The fuck?!

 

[WhiskerFrisker]

The dGPU is expensive lol.

 

[Marty Chinn]

30% better performance? why the fuck wouldn't you?

Because 30% performance is a 42% increase in price.

 

[Phanatic8390]

Andddd no Surface Book for me. $2099 for mid ranged with dGPU. I'll stick my desktop and an SP4 thank you.

 

[blackflag]

Ok. Now i need pricing for every option of Surfacebook and Surface Pro 4. Maybe come out of pocket for this one and hand back my Surface Pro 3 to work.

This! Those looked pretty impressive. My GF might be getting a hand me down SP3 from me at the end of the month

 

[AP90]

Why are we comparing this to the iPad Pro? They seem like two entirely separate products. I would totally buy and use both.

Because if I am not mistaken, apple is/has been trying to market ipads as productivity tablets as well.

 

[EroticSushi]

Does the student discount apply for the SP4?

 

[Future]

Definitely a little on the pricing side. Although a 256 gb pro 3 with 8 gig of ram with keyboard was $1300+ if I remember right. So around $500-600 more for a bigger screen, more power and discrete gpu.

Not that bad. Surface line is just pricey in general

Edit: yeah surface pro 4 for those specs above with keyboard would be around $1450. Anyone thinking the surface book could be 50 bucks more with all those additions was kidding themselves

 

[ElMexiMerican]

The new pen works with S3/SP3 models. Preordered.

 

[GitarooMan]

The dGPU is expensive lol.

It'd arguably be worth it (taking into account the rest of the package) if it is something in the range of at least of a 970m or so. I suspect it may not be that though given the size of the laptop

 

[Divvy]

Times are hard for us Canadians

 

[Luigi87]

So in Canada the SP4 i5 128GB (4GB RAM) is $80 more than it's SP3 equivalent.

I will get that.

 

[hwalker84]

Does the student discount apply for the SP4?

I hope so. I have plenty of people in education that can buy one for me.

 

[Doc Holliday]

The new pen works with S3/SP3 models. Preordered.

Does it use teh full 1024 levels or does it revert to 256 when used with the sp3?

 

[RoyalLaFlame]

So the SP4 base model will probably cost 1000€ here. That's expensive.

 

[Hatty]

Does the student discount apply for the SP4?

doesn't seem like it
but the site could be busted I don't know

 

[peppermints]

Love how the Surface Book echos the design of the mid-2000s MacBook Pro.. by far my favorite laptop design. Loved those keys.

 

[vagabondarts]

The new pen works with S3/SP3 models. Preordered.

Excellent

 

[red731]

As much as I was salivating, I don't think I can shelve so much money for SP4/SB...
Euroland.

 

[brotkasten]

So the SP4 base model will probably cost 1000€ here. That's expensive.

Yup. Up from €849. And that's still without the type cover.

It remains to be seen if the Core m3 is even that much of an upgrade over the i3 in the SP3.

 

[HarryDemeanor]

What apps are y'all jonesing for?
I had an android phone until 2012, but haven't really felt like I was missing out on apps in the WP environment.

Having used a Lumia 635 for almost a year now I haven't felt like I was missing anything. I just want things to get better in the store. I'm happy about new Facebook apps coming but I want to see a bigger push to bring more devs in. An official Twitch app would be great.

 

[eznark]

That $1800-ish SP4 looks pretty killer. Guess I'll go that route.

 

[PdotMichael]

So the SP4 base model will probably cost 1000€ here. That's expensive.

Well, more or less expected. I mean that kind of hardware isn't cheap.

 

[ElMexiMerican]

Does it use teh full 1024 levels or does it revert to 256 when used with the sp3?

Sounds like it will, nothing says that it's excluded on SP3. Plus they still have the older Surface Pen up, so for now it seems like the two are coinciding with each other.

 

[LordOfChaos]

Latest MacBook Pros have Radeon 370 right? If it's 2x faster than that the GPU is maybe something like 965m or similar. Unlikely in that small shell...

The comparison was to the 13" MBP, wasn't it? Only Intel HD 6100.

 

[MGrant]

The SB isn't too pricey for me; it seems comparable to the MBP but substantially more powerful. But I already game and do video editing on my desktop at home, so I think the SP4 will get me more bang for my buck.

 

[Heysoos]

I sure hope Best Buy adds the SP4 to next month's college student deals. :3

 

[Ran rp]

How cheap are SP2s these days?

 

[blackflag]

Looks like I'll stick with the i5 16gb 256gb version again.

 

[fuzzyset]

Is there any reason that the Surface Pro 4 page says "3D modeling with Auto Cad (i7 models only)"? The integrated graphics in the mobile Intel chips is pretty standard across the board, no?

 

[Baleoce]

What's the "all year battery life" with the pen all about? Just means you don't have to charge it for a whole year? I'm assuming you can just charge it whenever still?

 

[LucidMomentum]

no it isn't. 16GB is mid tier. 32GB is high end.

I have 16GB of RAM in my gaming rig. I rarely use any more than 10. I wouldn't call 16GB mid tier when most budget devices ship with 4, and most mid range ship with 8.

1899 is the cheapest GPU package :/

An extra $200 jump from the non GPU 256GB / i5 package seems reasonable for something with GTX 970 / 980 performance. Let's see if it can reach that level though.

With that being said, speccing things out it seems like for similar price ranges I'd go for the Surface Book over the Surface Pro given the ease of external storage space and the features of the Book. But if you want portable, the Pro is still a good option.

Now it remains to be seen if you really need to go to 1900 for a dGPU. We'll see what the benchmarks say.

What's the "all year battery life" with the pen all about? Just means you don't have to charge it for a whole year? I'm assuming you can just charge it whenever still?

No charge, takes standard batteries but they last forever.

 

[neurosyphilis]

16gb ram is high end.

Ok ? There's Mac's and Chromebooks with 16GB Ram. No ordinary customer who makes up the majority is paying 1500+ for a Windows machine unless it's for gaming, and the Surface Boom isn't a gaming machine. It's targeting the MacBook audience. And the surface book doesn't seem to be customizable which is the selling point of a PC over a Mac.

 

[Haklong]

The Surface Book prices are crazy. I still might get the i7 256Gb version. I'll think about it.

 

[LostMyNarbles]

What's the "all year battery life" with the pen all about? Just means you don't have to charge it for a whole year? I'm assuming you can just charge it whenever still?

It's not rechargeable anymore they replaced that with it using AAA Batteries.

 

[Hatty]

What's the "all year battery life" with the pen all about? Just means you don't have to charge it for a whole year? I'm assuming you can just charge it whenever still?

theres a straight up normal battery in there
it can't be recharged

 

[Niven]

Anyone got the uk prices?

 

[Chao]

The surface pro 4 pen is powered by a battery? Does anybody know if said battery is replaceable or do you need to buy a new pen every time?

 

[f0lken]

"Here, little peasant

-I bow to you King Panos"

 

[Futureman]

hmmm. I can probably get about $2k selling my MBP and SP3.

If the top of the line Surface Book was more like $2,400 w/ a 1 TB drive I would probably bite. Not sure now though...

 

[tiredheadcrab]

Okay so the Lumia phones look great but i think i will stick with the Nexus P. Looks like this will be MS's last phone but it looks sweet.

I am probably going to get a surface pro 4 in the winter after tax returns.

 

[see5harp]

The SB isn't too pricey for me; it seems comparable to the MBP but substantially more powerful. But I already game and do video editing on my desktop at home, so I think the SP4 will get me more bang for my buck.

I think that's my main issue with going all of the way with a laptop. I just don't think a laptop will ever be my main device since I'm a gamer. It's just way more practical to get a middle of the road Surface Pro 4 to get both mobile computing and a tablet for media consumption. Even a bottom of the line Surface Pro 4 is going to be 10x better than the iPad for gaming.

 

[Nander]

It's not rechargeable anymore they replaced that with it using AAA Batteries.

If it's like the Pro 3 pen, it's actually AAAA batteries.

 

[ElMexiMerican]

The surface pro 4 pen is powered by a battery? Does anybody know if said battery is replaceable or do you need to buy a new pen every time?

If it's like the previous Pen, it'll just have a replaceable battery inside that you can take out.