PS4 gets a new, lower price starting Friday: $349.99

If people aren't happy with exclusives of this gen then I think they just need to drop out of gaming.

I simply do not understand how people can't find something or even several somethings.
 
If people aren't happy with exclusives of this gen then I think they just need to drop out of gaming.

I simply do not understand how people can't find something or even several somethings.

I agree...I think the need to evaluate why they game.....The days of a lot of exclusives especially third party are gone. who cares if a game is exclusive or not that's so stupid..
 
PS4 at $350 is a good move to help compete with Halo 5's launch. However, I think Sony's losing out on money considering the PS4 is doing great.

This $50 drop is going to increase PS4 sales but I don't think it will be a lot since the PS4 is already doing so well. I feel that Sony should have saved the first price drop until they could get the system down to $299. $299 is when "casuals" really jump aboard/buy and that would have been even bigger news.

Either way, 360/PS3 gen will be dead after this Holiday. Xbox One and PS4 are at great prices and have many good games/bundles coming (some current gen only). I'll be getting a PS4 in 2016 (as long as Street Fighter 5, Uncharted 4, and Horizon live up to expectations).
I disagree.

The first official drop in nearly two years is going to have a huge impact. On top of CoD, Fallout and Battlefront? Yeah, tons of units will be moved.
 
The comma in the thread title annoys the fuck out of me

Cmon mods it's a price change in the US. Should be 349.99

Fucking comma bullshit
 
The comma in the thread title annoys the fuck out of me

Cmon mods is a price change in the US. Should be 349.99

Fucking comma bullshit

People that use commas instead of decimals probably consider this to be a sandwich

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I disagree.

The first official drop in nearly two years is going to have a huge impact. On top of CoD, Fallout and Battlefront? Yeah, tons of units will be moved.

Exactly one has to only look at X1s sales last holiday when the price dropped. But to claim the more popular console getting a price drop isn't going to do anything? Sure lol.
 
I agree...I think the need to evaluate why they game.....The days of a lot of exclusives especially third party are gone. who cares if a game is exclusive or not that's so stupid..

Hmm, kinda disagree. I don't think caring about exclusives is bad if that's how you are deciding your purchases. Like games not being exclusive is hardly a problem and it doesn't make a console inherently worse, but it does affect my purchasing habits. Like I have a gaming PC, so I procrastinated on getting a PS4 for the longest time because I was thinking "Can I justify this purchase when almost every game I want is coming out on PC anyway?" so I delayed my purchase for a while. Then Bloodborne came along and it was like "Okay, I want to play this enough to justify a purchase." I might also end up doing the same for the Xbox One depending on how Scalebound turns out, loving the look of the game so far.

Like I get what you are saying about "I don't play exclusives, I play games" but if you have more than one system to play games on it's hard to justify a console purchase sometimes. Like in my case my ps4 does only play exclusives because I play everything else on PC. It's the console that I use to play things that I otherwise wouldn't be able to. So I can't quite agree that it's dumb to care about exclusives. There are legitimate reasons to care about them if you're deciding whether or not to buy something.

I mean in my ideal world every game ever would come out on all major platforms and nothing would be exclusive. Would love to keep everything on just one machine. But since that isn't the case, to me it's like "Does this thing have enough games I want to justify the money I'm dropping on it?"
 
Hmm, kinda disagree. I don't think caring about exclusives is bad if that's how you are deciding your purchases. Like games not being exclusive is hardly a problem and it doesn't make a console inherently worse, but it does affect my purchasing habits. Like I have a gaming PC, so I procrastinated on getting a PS4 for the longest time because I was thinking "Can I justify this purchase when almost every game I want is coming out on PC anyway?" so I delayed my purchase for a while. Then Bloodborne came along and it was like "Okay, I want to play this enough to justify a purchase." I might also end up doing the same for the Xbox One depending on how Scalebound turns out, loving the look of the game so far.

Like I get what you are saying about "I don't play exclusives, I play games" but if you have more than one system to play games on it's hard to justify a console purchase sometimes. Like in my case my ps4 does only play exclusives because I play everything else on PC. It's the console that I use to play things that I otherwise wouldn't be able to. So I can't quite agree that it's dumb to care about exclusives. There are legitimate reasons to care about them if you're deciding whether or not to buy something.

I mean in my ideal world every game ever would come out on all major platforms and nothing would be exclusive. Would love to keep everything on just one machine. But since that isn't the case, to me it's like "Does this thing have enough games I want to justify the money I'm dropping on it?"

I never said anything about not caring about exclusives, you are twisting what I said, I aid who cares if a game is exclusive if it;'s good?.. Ps4 already has a good slew of exclusives anyway with a lot coming just in a few months early 2016...but people are clinging to the "HOLIDAY" LIneup. Also a lot of mid-tier, indie and japanese exclusives....meeting my needs easily and many apparently.

Exactly one has to only look at X1s sales last holiday when the price dropped. But to claim the more popular console getting a price drop isn't going to do anything? Sure lol.

Sounds like wishful thinking. PS4 will get a good boost.
 
The comma in the thread title annoys the fuck out of me

Cmon mods it's a price change in the US. Should be 349.99

Fucking comma bullshit

Lol I must admit it bugged me enough that I'm here googling why somebody would use a comma instead of a full stop.

It will be interesting to see what price drop if any they pass to Australia given the recent FX changes.
 
Cool, It's a bargain at it's price as it was...it's a great system, and bloodorne, Drive club, Mlb the show and infamous were all great, I don't just play exclusives I play games.


I wouldn't quite go that far. But it's a good deal for new entrants! The lower the barrier to entry the more folks are likely to jump in.
 
I just think $350 is still too much. I bought my PS4 day one for $400, and that was 2 years ago. Their exclusives have left a LOT to be desired. I bought TLOU again despite having just completed it on PS3 like 3 months prior, because I was desperate for something to play besides BF4.

For the most part, you can still buy the same games on PS3 or 360. You have access to pretty much all the same media apps on last gen. Yes, 3rd party games obviously look/play better on current gen, but where's the must have games for PS4? I'm talking about games with mass appeal, not Bloodborne or a short, mediocre sequel to a mediocre franchise. Driveclub plays decently, but it has one of the worst car rosters I've seen in a long time. The DS4, while ergonomically a huge leap forward, it has sticks that start to come apart after a few months of heavy play, and an absolutely atrocious battery life.

So far, Knack has been their most ambitious title. I mean, come on. PS4 should cost $300 at the absolute most IMO.

In fairness, and perhaps a reason why Sony has been a little slower off the mark exclusive-wise than MS, their gaming resources 2-3 years ago were split 3 ways: Ps3 was still getting high profile exclusives like Last of Us and Gran Turismo 6( frankly those games could have just as easily been launch ps4 software), ps4 development was under way and they were trying to get Vita off the ground( and we see how that turned out). Im not even sure how crucial first party exclusives are nowadays as far as being system sellers. Obviously they're needed to set your product apart from your competitor, but how many hardware units are the Uncharteds, Halos, Gears of Wars *really* gonna move nowadays? Im willing to bet on the xbox side at least, the COD bundle outsells the Halo 5 one.

With Ps3 now beginning to fade into the sunset, and major first party Vita development having been given up on 2 years ago, they can now devote their attention to their money-maker going forward. 2016 is going to be a big year exclusive-wise. In contrast, Xbox 360 exclusives pretty much dried up between 2010 and 2011 as MS clearly began the shift to XB1. Thats allowed them to pump out a larger quantity of first party exclusives from the getgo, but those efforts were neutered in large part by the infamous 2013 reveal, and so MS now finds themselves firmly in 2nd place scrambling to make up ground.

With that said, PS4 has obviously sold well at $399 over two years so there was no need to pricedrop until either their competition forced them to( not really a factor with ps4 the clear market leader this gen), or sales decline and need a price drop to ramp hardware movement back up again( whats happening now). The market for people willing to pay $399 is reaching its limits, but theres no real need to do a $100 drop, as great as that would be for consumers. Increasing storage, a $50 drop and throwing in a game increases the value proposition to consumers while still making money on the hardware.
 
In fairness, and perhaps a reason why Sony has been a little slower off the mark exclusive-wise than MS, their gaming resources 2-3 years ago were split 3 ways: Ps3 was still getting high profile exclusives like Last of Us and Gran Turismo 6( frankly those games could have just as easily been launch ps4 software), ps4 development was under way and they were trying to get Vita off the ground( and we see how that turned out).

With Ps3 now beginning to fade into the sunset, and major first party Vita development having been given up on 2 years ago, they can now devote their attention to their money-maker going forward. 2016 is going to be a big year exclusive-wise. In contrast, Xbox 360 exclusives pretty much dried up between 2010 and 2011 as MS clearly began the shift to XB1. Thats allowed them pump out a larger quantity of first party exclusives from the getgo, but those efforts were neutered in large part by the infamous 2013 reveal, and so MS now finds themselves firmly in 2nd place scrambling to make up ground.

With that said, PS4 has obviously sold well at $399 over two years so there was no need to pricedrop until either their competition forced them to( not really a factor with ps4 the clear market leader this gen), or sales decline and need a price drop to ramp hardware movement back up again( whats happening now). The market for people willing to pay $399 is reaching its limits, but theres no real need to do a $100 drop, as great as that would be for consumers. Increasing storage, a $50 drop and throwing in a game increases the value proposition to consumers while still making money on the hardware.

That's not true at all.
 
It is more like 300 when you think about it. Your getting a free game. It used to be they dropped the price on a vanilla console then did a game bundle then came out with another price drop on a vanilla console. That pattern is definitely broken. Gamers have got it good this gen.
 
Those thinking price drops don't spur sales are wrong. Price drops and/or bundles can generate news articles that spread outside the 'gaming' bubble.

For example, I was perfectly content with my PS2 way back when, not paying attention to gaming other than whatever used game I picked up for $5... when the MGS PS3 bundle came out (right around when GTA4 hit). Both of those 'made the news', alongside the current price (at the time, I probably thought it was still $600 since I wasn't paying attention)and... I went out and bought a PS3.

The Star Wars bundle will turn the heads of people that are not generally paying attention to the console market. That sells units. Halo will sell well too, of course, but only people that already are in the market 'care' about Halo... both Star Wars and price cuts appeal to a vast audience.
 
People think HALO is bigger then an official price drop? Halos is still big but nothing boosts hardware then a price cut. I think some here are over estimating the impact Halo will have. it will boost hardware but enough to overcome a price drop?
 
NPD is going to be interesting.



It should not have received a drop. It doesn't need a drop. But that's cool. Good for everyone that there's a drop.

It's not like you "win" something by being right that there was going to be a drop. I'm not hanging my head in shame that I thought a drop was unnecessary and unlikely. Who cares.

What are your credentials to make this statement?
 
It is more like 300 when you think about it.

I'm getting a bit confused here, I know the infographic going around in the thread says 350 for the uncharted bundle but everywhere else (including the uncharted collection thread) says that bundle is 400.

I was actually going to pick that bundle up when I thought it was 350 but I don't feel like spending 400 atm (although 400 makes sense since the base console price will be 350).

Then again maybe I'm getting info mixed up or something?
 
If people aren't happy with exclusives of this gen then I think they just need to drop out of gaming.

I simply do not understand how people can't find something or even several somethings.

I 100% agree.

It bugs me that people make this hyperbolic statements like "This gen is the worst gen ever" and "Where is the next gen gaming" when imo, the aspect of playing games is what gaming is about. Complaining that your taste is very limited means that yes, you should really consider dropping out of gaming if living in a box is the way some view things.

I agree
 
I'm getting a bit confused here, I know the infographic going around in the thread says 350 for the uncharted bundle but everywhere else (including the uncharted collection thread) says that bundle is 400.

I was actually going to pick that bundle up when I thought it was 350 but I don't feel like spending 400 atm (although 400 makes sense since the base console price will be 350).

Then again maybe I'm getting info mixed up or something?
It changes on Friday.

So not too long now.
 
I 100% agree.

It bugs me that people make this hyperbolic statements like "This gen is the worst gen ever" and "Where is the next gen gaming" when imo, the aspect of playing games is what gaming is about. Complaining that your taste is very limited means that yes, you should really consider dropping out of gaming if living in a box is the way some view things.

I agree

Agree as well, those comments make me cringe.
 
I disagree.

The first official drop in nearly two years is going to have a huge impact. On top of CoD, Fallout and Battlefront? Yeah, tons of units will be moved.

Exactly one has to only look at X1s sales last holiday when the price dropped. But to claim the more popular console getting a price drop isn't going to do anything? Sure lol.

I didn't say it wasn't going to do anything. I simply said that the PS4 was going to do well either way and that it possibly would have been smarter for Sony to just save having a price drop until they could have one that's really significant ($100).

The Xbox One saw its huge sales last Holiday season (in U.S.) due to it being the cheaper 3rd party supported console available (with the $50 drop obviously helping to cause that). I'm positive that the Xbox One wouldn't have done as well last Holiday if the system had a price drop and still stayed at a more expensive price than the PS4.

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It is more like 300 when you think about it. Your getting a free game. It used to be they dropped the price on a vanilla console then did a game bundle then came out with another price drop on a vanilla console. That pattern is definitely broken. Gamers have got it good this gen.

Yeah, the difference in the value/price of console bundles this gen vs. last gen is crazy. Night and day.
 
I didn't say it wasn't going to do anything. I simply said that the PS4 was going to do well either way and that it possibly would have been smarter for Sony to just save having a price drop until they could have one that's really significant ($100).

The Xbox One saw its huge sales last Holiday season (in U.S.) due to it being the cheaper 3rd party supported console available (with the $50 drop obviously helping to cause that). I'm positive that the Xbox One wouldn't have done as well last Holiday if the system had a price drop and still stayed at a more expensive price than the PS4.

At 399 they would lose sales this holiday.....the market for 399 is dwindling it is time. They don't make much money on the hardware....the software and ps plus will make up any deficit.,
 
I think they will. $349 bundles are very weak right know with Battlefront bundle at the same price.

great move, they're selling every unit they can deliver to my country (Spain) and there's no competition at all, they don't need to adjust price but to ramp up production lol, anyway it's a great move and of course expected, I can see Battlefront bundles literally flying off shelves.

That Battlefront bundle will be huge.
Wait are there other games coming with the Battlefront PS4? Also will The last of Us still be bundled? Why do you all see thr Battlefront doing a lot of units.

Just curious, I've not kept up with the game or know much about it's popularity. Thanks.
 
That's not true at all.

Looking at what XB1 launched with compared to Ps4? Ps4s first high profile exclusive stuff like The Order and Bloodborne not hitting till 2015? Sonys big game this holiday being a collection of remastered Uncharted games, while MS is putting out Halo 5 and Forza 6? Sonys first party exclusives dont really get going till next year.
 
They still pay less than the US
ya, it must suck paying less than the US!!!!

Uh huh. I'm liking this international money market literacy.... lol. I don't think any of the Canadians care about the absolute currency exchange value when everything they earn and buy is still in CAD.... smh.

Anyway, when the PS4 launched the Canadian dollar was at parity with USD, higher even. A year and two years before that a Canadian dollar was worth 1.10 USD when the US markets were still worried about the fallout of the banking and foreclosure crisis.

This is simply an adjustment to reflect the (drastic) change in Canadian dollar value.
 
Looking at what XB1 launched with compared to Ps4? Ps4s first high profile exclusive stuff like The Order and Bloodborne not hitting till 2015? Sonys big game this holiday being a collection of remastered Uncharted games, while MS is putting out Halo 5 and Forza 6? Sonys first party exclusives dont really get going till next year.

Nice selective list ...not..Lets not turn this into a list war but your post is BS...since when does HOLIDAY games only matter now? Does bloodborne, Until Dawn, MLB the show , the order not count this year? The order was their first high profile exclusive what? Killzone, infamous, Drive club didn't happen? Infamous was just 3 months after launch and it sold very well and even boosted hardware....more then ttianfall did for x1.
 
Wait are there other games coming with the Battlefront PS4? Also will The last of Us still be bundled? Why do you all see thr Battlefront doing a lot of units.

Just curious, I've not kept up with the game or know much about it's popularity. Thanks.
Comes with 4 other Star Wars games.
The bundle also includes Star Wars Battlefront Deluxe Edition, as well as a digital voucher to download four classic Star Wars titles – Super Star Wars, Star Wars: Racer Revenge, Star Wars: Jedi Starfighter and Star Wars Bounty Hunter – playable for the first time on PS4, and sporting enhanced graphics and Trophy support. I’ll give you a minute to take that all in…
http://blog.us.playstation.com/2015/08/16/star-wars-ps4-bundles/

Btw guys the regular edition has a digital copy.
 
Europe adopts America's (admittedly) superior use of the decimal point and changes places with the comma in exchange for the U.S. ditching their silly measurement system for the God-tier Metric system.

I mean, really. Everybody wins here.
 
Nice selective list ...not..Lets not turn this into a list war but your post is BS...since when does HOLIDAY games only matter now? Does bloodborne, Until Dawn, MLB the show , the order not count this year?

Reread my post. I said Sony was slightly slower off the mark with exclusives, that means going back to launch. And they were.... good job proving my point by pointing out 3 games that came out in 2015, two of which I already mentioned in Order and Bloodborne.

Yeah, lets not get into a list war, your reply already has a tone as if I pissed in your cereal so not really interested in further exchange.
 
Reread my post. I said Sony was slower off the mark with exclusives, that means going back to launch. And they were.... good job proving my point by pointing out 3 games that came out in 2015, two of which I already mentioned in Order and Bloodborne.

But they weren't as I already stated.... Infamous came out in 2015? MLB the show 14, Driveclub, LBP 3, killzone, TLOU:R were 2015??? News to me. Not my issue you get sooky when mis-information is called out.
 
Europe adopts America's (admittedly) superior use of the decimal point and changes places with the comma in exchange for the U.S. ditching their silly measurement system for the God-tier Metric system.

I mean, really. Everybody wins here.

Well, except the people that eat struggle bread. They stay losing.
 
People think HALO is bigger then an official price drop? Halos is still big but nothing boosts hardware then a price cut. I think some here are over estimating the impact Halo will have. it will boost hardware but enough to overcome a price drop?

Come on bro. I think the PS4 will do well with this price drop and it will cause a boost. But this is Halo. Before COD this was THE FPS to own on consoles. I don't know how many systems it'll sell but MS goes balls to the walls marketing with this.

It'll move units and it's possible it'll move more than the PS4. NOW that said Sony announcing this price drop now when the UCC bundles launches is a great move. It secures it'll get a boost and that momentum will carry into november with the COD, Battlefront bundles.

I still give the edge to MS because Halo.
 
But they weren't as I already stated.... Infamous came out in 2015? MLB the show 14, Driveclub, LBP 3, killzone, TLOU:R were 2015??? News to me.

So all 2014 stuff, and a remaster of a ps3 game. What did each system launch with in 2013? Because that was my point when saying Sony came out the gate a little slower.
 
I didn't say it wasn't going to do anything. I simply said that the PS4 was going to do well either way and that it possibly would have been smarter for Sony to just save having a price drop until they could have one that's really significant ($100).

The Xbox One saw its huge sales last Holiday season (in U.S.) due to it being the cheaper 3rd party supported console available (with the $50 drop obviously helping to cause that). I'm positive that the Xbox One wouldn't have done as well last Holiday if the system had a price drop and still stayed at a more expensive price than the PS4.
Just to be clear, I was disputing this -

This $50 drop is going to increase PS4 sales but I don't think it will be a lot since the PS4 is already doing so well

Unless, of course, you wanted to clarify that statement. What sort of numbers are you expecting? What would be "a lot"?
 
It is more like 300 when you think about it. Your getting a free game. It used to be they dropped the price on a vanilla console then did a game bundle then came out with another price drop on a vanilla console. That pattern is definitely broken. Gamers have got it good this gen.

Well free digital copies cost them nothing really.
 
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