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Star Wars: The Force Awakens Final Trailer

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So, I am out of order in believing the possibility that this movie will shatter previous records?

I mean...it looks pretty good

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So, I am out of order in believing the possibility that this movie will shatter previous records?

I mean...it looks pretty good

no way. this movie will destroy all records.

it actually looks good

meaning, if it is good, people will go see it a ton of times. It will own the box office for months.

personally I will save up to get enough to buy a brand new surround sound system for when this hits blu ray. but will experience it in glorious IMAX many times over till then
 
Is Daisy Ridley prepared for life long waifu status?

Is she aware of what she's gotten into?
 
So, I am out of order in believing the possibility that this movie will shatter previous records?

I mean...it looks pretty good

It'll beat Jurassic World's records and global haul without even blinking. Whether it'll top Titanic or the almighty Avatar in final box office haul is still up in the air. It'd say 75% likely for Titanic and 50-50 on Avatar.
 
Looked pretty good. There's definitely some stuff to nitpick though. One or two clips had settings that were really fake looking, like, you could tell very easily it was a movie prop stage. Vaders mask also looked like cheap plastic or something, and Kylo's voice is meh.
 
Its not that weird that the Jedi were regarded as myth even in ANH. There were barely any Jedi left at the start of the prequel trilogy and even fewer by episode 3. Think of how many planets there are in the galaxy . The number of people who had ever even seen a jedi would be so low it may as well be zero when compared the galaxy's population of sentient beings.

Only five or six people in OG Star Wars even laid eyes on one. Over three movies. Luke arguably even wasn't one till he chose peace at the emperors test.
 
You love Obi Wan, don't you?!!? I saw you in the same room together! You love him!!

I want a DNA test!!! Sorry, MIDICHLORIAN test!!

That'd have been a better reason for Anakin to get jelly and turn to dark side. Instead we get some nebulous reason about how he fears the darkness and ends up murdering people left and right because of it. WTF?!
 
no way. this movie will destroy all records.

it actually looks good

meaning, if it is good, people will go see it a ton of times. It will own the box office for months.

personally I will save up to get enough to buy a brand new surround sound system for when this hits blu ray. but will experience it in glorious IMAX many times over till then

Same here, bruh. I am SO PUMPED! I already have tickets for that Thursday and plan on going again the following Monday.
 
But that's literally what the Knights Templar are except even less than what the Jedi would theoretically be in this movie now. Do you understand what I mean? We ,with the 700 years that have passed, still know and regularly make media out of a Knight Order that is dead. Yet in this movie 50 years have passed and a Knightly Order than had Galaxy spanning influence is completely forgotten to be real? That's ridiculous.

Just saying. Palpatine probably had a lot to do with supressing a lot. I mean he immediately made Jedi the enemy of the empire and could have removed all knowledge.

And to be honest. You just have to suspend your disbelief a bit.
 
But that's literally what the Knights Templar are except even less than what the Jedi would theoretically be in this movie now. Do you understand what I mean? We, with the 700 years that have passed, still know and regularly make media out of a Knight Order that is dead. Yet in this movie 50 years have passed and a Knightly Order than had Galaxy spanning influence is completely forgotten to be real? That's ridiculous.


When was the last time you saw a Knight Templar? A Hospitaller? A Teutonic Knight? Why are they not myths? China's probably never seen a single one of those knights in its entire history but I'm sure someone there who is familiar with history doesn't think "Oh man those guys never existed, stop telling me fairy tales."

Tens of thousands of worlds with at least in the old cannon quadrillions of people in it. A bit different than planet Earth.
 
But that's literally what the Knights Templar are except even less than what the Jedi would theoretically be in this movie now. Do you understand what I mean? We, with the 700 years that have passed, still know and regularly make media out of a Knight Order that is dead. Yet in this movie 50 years have passed and a Knightly Order than had Galaxy spanning influence is completely forgotten to be real? That's ridiculous.


When was the last time you saw a Knight Templar? A Hospitaller? A Teutonic Knight? Why are they not myths? China's probably never seen a single one of those knights in its entire history but I'm sure someone there who is familiar with history doesn't think "Oh man those guys never existed, stop telling me fairy tales."

The majority of Americans believe Reagan was a saint and a successful president. Propaganda is a helluvah drug.
 
Yeah that's all true, but it completely removes the mystical aspect, imo. It was a really dumb move by Lucas to try and make the Force scientifically quantifiable, because Force sensitive individuals can feel the Force in others. They already know who is a powerful force. They don't need to test their blood. I'll never understand why Qui-Jon Jinn didn't feel Anakin's Force presence from a mile away. I think that other poster is right that it removed a lot of the mystery and mysticism that was present in the original trilogy and so lacking in the prequels.

Yeah, it was a really hamfisted way to try to introduce power levels DBZ style. They needed a way to establish Anakin as the chosen one, and what "better" way to do it then saying 'His power level is more than Master Yoda's.'

The proper analogue for the myth stuff would be more like if people said that the order of the Knights Templar still existed right now and they were influencing major world events.
 
Yeah that's all true, but it completely removes the mystical aspect, imo. It was a really dumb move by Lucas to try and make the Force scientifically quantifiable, because Force sensitive individuals can feel the Force in others.

I just didn't get that out of it at all lol. And I think that after the Jedi fell to their own ego, that when Qui-Gon "retaught" Obi-Wan and Yoda between trilogies that things like Midichlorians and the more "scientific" as you said aspect of going about the Force was thrown aside in favor of treating it like the mystical energy that you're talking about. That's also why they're a lot more like Qui-Gon in the originals.

I think it's a point Lucas was trying to get across, that they're egotistical and approach the Force too mechanically which are reasons that can be linked to Palpatine being able to pull off his stunt. If the Jedi were these perfect things that completely understood everything they wouldn't have fell in the first place, so Lucas made them intentionally flawed in order to make their fall believable; part of this was, IMO, showing that they treated the Force too materialistically, which Qui-Gon could see.

Makes sense to me anyway.
 
Just saying. Palpatine probably had a lot to do with supressing a lot. I mean he immediately made Jedi the enemy of the empire and could have removed all knowledge.

All I'm saying is if we can determine what kind of ships the Romans had and how they used them from broken bits of pottery we excavated from a hole, the Universe should have no trouble whatsoever remembering an organization that's only been dead for 50 years.

You just have to suspend your disbelief a bit.
I'm already suspending all the EU canon, this is just more added on to the ever-growing pile of things I need to suspend to make the movie work apparently. It's starting to feel more like I'm compensating for lazy writing.

Tens of thousands of worlds with at least in the old cannon quadrillions of people in it. A bit different than planet Earth.
So then all of the worlds have never heard of the Jedi? The organization that fought in a Galaxy Wide War and served as it's generals?

And yes you can say "Well Empire Propaganda" but like as what was just said this is a galaxy with thousands of planets. How can you possibly suppress that many worlds of every single shred of Jedi evidence? They couldn't even suppress the rebels.

Fuck Mon Motha was a goddamn Senator in the New Republic, she clearly would know about Jedis because of that. There's no way to make this work, it's just lazy writing.
 
The prequels screwed everything up. The Force was supposed to be a mystical thing that a small number of Jedi could fully utilize. Making it something thought of as an ancient religion is interesting because it makes it mysterious. But no, Jedis were all over the place just 20 years before the OT because reasons.

They were not as "all over the place" as it seemed. During the Clone Wars, there were only 10,000 in a galaxy of how many 'illions, with a large portion having been killed off over a short course of time by Order 66. Most people had only ever heard of jedi, but never seen them in person. We just happened to see much of the events from their perspective during the story.
 
I guess Jar Jar truly is the key to all of this?

I don't know how long Gungans live but I might be the only person that wouldn't mind a Jar Jar appearance in this film. An older, wiser, grizzled Jar Jar redeems himself which makes his arc from a young naive sidekick to a ass-kicking general/Senator to something like leader of the Gungans fighting the Empire.
 
The Force is still mystical. Midichlorians are just a way to gauge how attuned to it one is.

It's really not a big deal.

How about the fact that Jedis were commonplace and had a counsel involved in galactic politics just 20 years before the OT? That is an insignificant amount of time in the history of the Republic. Everything about the Force and Jedis doesn't mesh between the PT and OT.
 
All I'm saying is if we can determine what kind of ships the Romans had and how they used them from broken bits of pottery we excavated from a hole, the Universe should have no trouble whatsoever remembering an organization that's only been dead for 50 years.


I'm already suspending all the EU canon, this is just more added on to the ever-growing pile of things I need to suspend to make the movie work apparently. It's starting to feel more like I'm compensating for lazy writing.

Eh not really. It's not just one planet but a whole galaxy. It's not shocking to me at all that most people never seen a Jedi and only heard stories.

Anakin in the PT literally thought Jedi's couldn't die. That alone shows that stories can be spread and that Jedi were viewed as mythical even then.
 
All I'm saying is if we can determine what kind of ships the Romans had and how they used them from broken bits of pottery we excavated from a hole, the Universe should have no trouble whatsoever remembering an organization that's only been dead for 50 years.


I'm already suspending all the EU canon, this is just more added on to the ever-growing pile of things I need to suspend to make the movie work apparently. It's starting to feel more like I'm compensating for lazy writing.
Blame the prequels. Jedi were mysterious and mythical in the OT, a dead religion. Esoteric knowledge and skill and regarded as stories.

The prequels had Jedis known and very public.
 
This was truly the best night.

SW trailer is amazing.

I scored tix the the IMAX opener.

Harper got thrown out of Canadian power, and replaced by the son of a Civil Rights hero.
 
Tickets sold out here for opening night.... 2 months in advance. I don't think I've ever seen anything like this.

This is madness, this is Star Wars.
 
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