Fallout 4 has gone gold; leaked gameplay vids
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It's called Pot Luck on the Vault 111 character builder site's version of the Perk chart.
DeepEnigma
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Why would it be different?
They did not design a completely different set of dialog opitions with a ton of new PC-exclusive voiced options, no.
Shadow Broker
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Yeah I noticed that too. They said on their news feed that they're updating the entire perk chart with cerrent infomation today.
Hero Prinny
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idk if i should do my first playthrough in my usual stealth style (normally i do stealth and speech but speech is pretty much gone so it would just be stealth this time) or mix it up and do heavy weapons run first, I've never done a heavy weapon build, mainly cause imo heavy weapon ammo is pretty scarce compared to other weapons.
What is on the FO3 HUD that you miss here? Tick marks?
triplestation
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l-let's go, pal
Other than Todd Howard saying it's about the size as Skyrim?
Fine Ham Abounds
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I need a gif of the dog calmly walking around while on fire
I mean this is Fallout, so that's not exactly unreasonable.
Honestly I have no issue with RPing within a predefined character. Like valid point you cannot create whatever character you want when they are voiced and have a set of predefined characteristics and backstory. That's a relatively legitimate complaint. But you can still RP within the role provided. It's just a narrower spectrum.
You can RP in TW3 even though Geralt is a super well defined character. You get to choose how he reacts and handle hundreds of situations and deals with those people in his personal life based on your interpretation of how you see his character. You play within the role that is provided. Which is exactly what I intend to do here in FO4.
I'm not a girl, yet I still plan to play the wife first and will do so in a RPing way seeing how the game operates in the opening and deciding what kind of character within game I will be playing as.
Now I'm curious as to where they got it lol
Yes but we've had two games in the series that didn't do this, but they felt the need to take that away.
Actually FO3 did it too, giving you the backstory in the vault and forcing you to look for your dad.
What if I don't want to be a girl? Or I want to be a girl that didn't have a husband?
Obsidian understood that you should not give the main character of Fallout a backstory. Bethesda does not understand.
The Witcher 3 is a completely different kind of game, and like ME3, it established it had a main character and this was their story. That's not what Fallout is supposed to be.
What is Bethesda obsession with this?
I'm not watching any gameplay. Stayed away from Halo 5 too.
This sounds hilarious though.
The Lamonster
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This is probably a dumb question but is the PC version a console port or is it the other way around?
and how can you even find out with most games?
and how can you even find out with most games?
Spazznid
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Good news for players like myself who enjoyed skyrim I guess.
Kenzodielocke
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Strawpoll on which music you liked more, fallout 3 or new vegas.
http://strawpoll.me/5901391
http://strawpoll.me/5901391
My vote goes to New Vegas.
Watched most of the 20 minute video and read some of the Spanish feedback.
+ Weapon handling and animation looks terrific
- Bullet sponges persist (poor visual feedback when blasting enemies unless the shot is fatal/critical)
- Asset quality appears poor (will be addressed on PC with mods, but still)
- Grossly simplified dialog trees
- Dull lighting (again, mods to the rescue)
? Actual spoken dialog might be decent
? Power armor now requiring an extinguishable resource to use is intriguing from a gameplay perspective
I'm still really looking forward to the game, but it's totally understandable that people are underwhelmed by the footage. It's not flattering in the least.
+ Weapon handling and animation looks terrific
- Bullet sponges persist (poor visual feedback when blasting enemies unless the shot is fatal/critical)
- Asset quality appears poor (will be addressed on PC with mods, but still)
- Grossly simplified dialog trees
- Dull lighting (again, mods to the rescue)
? Actual spoken dialog might be decent
? Power armor now requiring an extinguishable resource to use is intriguing from a gameplay perspective
I'm still really looking forward to the game, but it's totally understandable that people are underwhelmed by the footage. It's not flattering in the least.
gutterboy44
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Ah, fuck me. I started the morning in the wrong fallout thread. This is what I want to see, character build nerding out! Has any site whipped up a character creator tool yet?
Spazznid
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That's the very reason I disliked fonv. I want at all interested in the story, and my character was nothing. I like direction.
People getting hung up on such insane details in here now.
Lol.
Is this what people sit and think about while playing games now? I just load it up and jump right in. Do you also dress up as the character your playing as? Pretend you're actually in the Apocalypse?
Lol.
Is this what people sit and think about while playing games now? I just load it up and jump right in. Do you also dress up as the character your playing as? Pretend you're actually in the Apocalypse?
Haunted
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Sato Koiji
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I love how you instantly see the items that are in bodies or objects by hovering over without opening a loot window.
FO1 and FO2 had pretty detailed backstories as well, having us as a resident of Vault 13 and Arroyo Village(where you had a mother, aunt and other relatives), along with pretty heavy driving forces in the main plot to get us to go out and do stuff to save our Vault and save our village. NV is the only game in the mainline series that provides us with a near total blank slate and no outside motivations beyond ourselves.
But Obsidian fucked that up and ruined it completely, worse than anything done before in the series by saddling our character with the worst backstory in Lonesome Road. Making us responsible for the destruction of the Divide in what was the biggest "who gives a shit" plot point meant to make us feel responsible for something we had no knowledge of.
Shadow Broker
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From what I understand, after your initial 21 points everytime you level up you can spend that point on a perk in specials you already selected or use that point to increase your special.
Then there may be bobble heads which may increase your special. That's not confirmed yet.
Jesus christ
I don't know, foolish hope? Don't judge me for wanting it to somehow to be different.
I'm sorry I thought this was called a role-playing game.
Did Todd Howard not say "Make any kind of character you want" at e3?
Scientist Supreme!
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Yes?
That's why they're called Role-playing games.
DeepEnigma
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Hahaha, I hear ya!, sadly this seems dumbed down/more accessible to a broader audience.
it's a role playing game....
TheBlueBomber
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I love this too, it's nice not having to go into the window anymore, cant wait to play it
SpacePirate Ridley
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I dont have a problem with dialogue wheels and voiced main characters, mass effect and alpha protocol do them amazingly well.
But this is not even a dialogue wheel, its a fucking cross with always 4 options.
And people who said wait and see, the spanish leaker (who i have read in spanish, not that shitty reddit translation done by a brazilian) tells is always the same. If thats not confiramtion of oversimplification, i dont know what it is.
You will have to wait for role playing change in gameplay something like 1 year until it starts to be top quality on PC.
Modders are going to do it, look at new beggining or interesting NPCs in games like skyrim. But im sure it will take some time.
Wouldnt suprise me some mod throws the dialogue cross and voiced protagonist out of the window and you can play a more expansive role playing game in a year.
But the answer is no, its going to be the exact same on pc.
But this is not even a dialogue wheel, its a fucking cross with always 4 options.
And people who said wait and see, the spanish leaker (who i have read in spanish, not that shitty reddit translation done by a brazilian) tells is always the same. If thats not confiramtion of oversimplification, i dont know what it is.
You will have to wait for role playing change in gameplay something like 1 year until it starts to be top quality on PC.
Modders are going to do it, look at new beggining or interesting NPCs in games like skyrim. But im sure it will take some time.
Wouldnt suprise me some mod throws the dialogue cross and voiced protagonist out of the window and you can play a more expansive role playing game in a year.
But the answer is no, its going to be the exact same on pc.
bloodyroarxx
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Neat stuff, first mod needs to be turn Dogmeat into DD
He didn't say "make any character you want with any back story you want", you obviously have to play within the limits they set for the sake of the story.
I know, I was looking forward to playing as a one legged mother of six who lost everything during the great war.
Plenty of rpgs give you a back story or some character at the start, so what if it's not a blank slate, no other Fallout game has been.
Sorry Commander Shepard, but you are now a travelling space sales man looking for his long lost twin brother, fuck earth, humanity and the rest of the plot. It's an RPG!
Camper182
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What a non-issue honestly...
Removing/dumbing down one of the most beloved and notable features of your video game series is not a non-issue.
That's really disappointing man. I'd been looking forward to Fallout and honestly the dialogue parts might be my favorite parts of the series. I'm not sure why they made this change but if it's in Elder Scrolls too I'm out.
Lan Dong Mik
And why would I want them?
I think it looks good!! I'm honestly not too worried about the dialog options being limited, for all we know more options will pop up the deeper you get into the game. The gameplay looks awesome imo.
triplestation
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that fucking dog is annoying as shit
anybody else gonna ditch the dog, too?
anybody else gonna ditch the dog, too?
Chû Totoro
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Maybe not best thread to ask but can I start playing Fallout 4 or do I have to buy/watch (ugh) previous games?
I really do know nothing about the series so maybe it's even better to start 100% fresh?
Already pre ordered since I've found it for 27 on PS4 (47 with 20 pre order coupon as a gift)... if reviews are sh*t I'll cut the pre order but I thought the price wouldn't stay for ever (nothing paid till shipping too so it's cool).
I really do know nothing about the series so maybe it's even better to start 100% fresh?
Already pre ordered since I've found it for 27 on PS4 (47 with 20 pre order coupon as a gift)... if reviews are sh*t I'll cut the pre order but I thought the price wouldn't stay for ever (nothing paid till shipping too so it's cool).
Beautiful.
The weird thing is I would consider ME the bare minimum. I dislike a lot about that dialogue system, but Fallout 4 seems to make it much worse.
arts&crafts
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poor dogmeat
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