i just some users from this thread dont go to npd thread and ask creamsugar for hw numbers.
thats 100% false
thats 100% false
Halo 5: Guardians Smashes Record with Biggest Halo Launch (games/hardware) in History
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Where do you see that Microsofts PR statement treats it any differently? It doesn't say sold to customers or anything like that. I read it as $400 Million worth of Halo 5 games and bundles sold to retailers. Doesn't matter anyway.
SenjutsuSage
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Oh yea, it would have to be controllers, not the game itself, the awesome OST, or the special edition console that comes bundled with the game. We know Microsoft spins, but let's not try to pretend as if there isn't a whole lot of spin going on in this very thread also.
Coin Return
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Good to hear. Multiplayer is sublime.
It's really not that difficult these days. Few read anything critically beyond the headline.
Katana_Strikes
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Thats some clever PR spin. I guess it's good they were able to put a big headline out there like that but without telling us the actual sales. I guess we are going to have to wait for NPD and the leaks to give us an idea on how it really did. Skirting around with those numbers combining this and that doesn't say diddly.
I think you just answered your own question!
From the last page:
People want numbers, not blatant attempts at obfuscation.
Which is so ironic yet enjoyable to sift through lol.
AllIsOneIsNone
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It really is the best playing Halo. I hope the added content is significant. If it is I think the population will remain healthy and continue with solid sales, but as it stands the multiplayer content is lacking. The problem is they tried to diversify multiplayer to give more variety, but in turn they ended up watering down pre-existing Halo playlists and maps for those playlists, so if you don't like all of them it definitely feels like there isn't enough.
Since I don't like breakout that much and Warzone isn't my thing, I'm left with like 5 maps and very few playlists. Team Slayer has been a staple of Halo multiplayer since the beginning, and content wise it's the weakest of any launch Halo game, which is saying a lot (Reach and Halo 4 were pretty weak as well). They say they're going to continue with a bunch of new content/playlists and I remain hopeful, but they also said they were launching with 21 maps, and that's a huge stretch.
Since I don't like breakout that much and Warzone isn't my thing, I'm left with like 5 maps and very few playlists. Team Slayer has been a staple of Halo multiplayer since the beginning, and content wise it's the weakest of any launch Halo game, which is saying a lot (Reach and Halo 4 were pretty weak as well). They say they're going to continue with a bunch of new content/playlists and I remain hopeful, but they also said they were launching with 21 maps, and that's a huge stretch.
MaulerX
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I just see sharks in the water, hoping, wishing, praying, for numbers so that they can confirm what we already know (and then act "concerned" about it): halo isn't as popular as it used to be.
Sadly, you'll all just have to live with the knowledge, that it's still a cash cow...
Sources tell me there are only 3 people playing halo5 right now.
Sadly, you'll all just have to live with the knowledge, that it's still a cash cow...
Sources tell me there are only 3 people playing halo5 right now.
Primethius
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Uhh what? He's asking a question and why exactly can't all of those things be included?
That's the entire point of the PR. To obfuscate things. Hence, people trying to figure it out.
They knew from the Halo 4 population decline grave dancing that they would never show population numbers again, no matter how well it did.
That's totally false.
The only narrative there is that the game underperformed in the UK compared to previous mainline titles in the series.
This PR not only confirms it's true but that it also applies worldwide.
It's not so hard to understand, the game still sold really well in absolute terms.
But it's fascinating that the fans of the series are trying to deny the evidence... afterall it's not like the game gets better or worse depending on sales. The things are separated.
TharpDaddy
Member
Yup i'm sure they planned the entire game around hiding player numbers.
there is no numbers to downplay :/
What do you think?
MS PR spin would win that round if a handful of posters would employ some critical thinking
Well, I bet it's above 6 million units, and most of that in the USA. (400 million / 60 us per game = 6.66 million)
And people were saying Halo was dead in USA and uncharted 4 would beat it easily. Haha.
on Xbox one
thanks for proving my point
I think some of us are just tired of feeling lied to.
...and that was?
Microsoft just shot themselves in the foot.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about game sales culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Movies where you can become successful by posting revenue. If you screw someone over in games sales, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the neogaf posters, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase any software for their hardware, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire forum with this move.
Microsoft, publicly apologize and release sales numbers for Halo 5 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
I don't know how much the rest of you know about game sales culture (I'm an expert), but honor and shame are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in Movies where you can become successful by posting revenue. If you screw someone over in games sales, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.
What this means is the neogaf posters, after hearing about this, are not going to want to purchase any software for their hardware, nor will they purchase any of Microsoft games. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but Microsoft has alienated an entire forum with this move.
Microsoft, publicly apologize and release sales numbers for Halo 5 or you can kiss your business goodbye.
TBiddy
Member
I wonder how many of the people complaining in this thread is in the "industry".
No one is forcing you to read it. Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't it take almost two years before we had an official sales number for GTA 5?
Here's my estimated math IMO... Either way its good for NPD and other things..
175mil / $500(avg # factoring in consoles + controllers) = 350k of a blend of consoles/ controllers
225mil/ $75(avg # factoring in standard, LE and CE editions and discounts offered over the last few weeks.) = 3 million copies sold approx.
If the above is true (speculation), then id say that's pretty damn good IMO.
The job of marketing is to make your product appear in a positive light no matter the circumstance. As someone going into marketing I am not being sarcastic when I say if that was the case whoever is coming up with these numbers and press releases is a genius.
They should win, they are getting paid for it.MS PR spin would win that round if a handful of posters would employ some critical thinking
Though the latter group seem to be much more passionate and zealous.
But by all means, carry on
The Mad Draklor
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Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
I think you'd be hard pressed to detect a lie in their statement.
Not that that makes it any better.
ShemhazaiX
Member
This was the perfect sequel to the UK thread.
Eagerly awaiting a final episode of the Halo Sales Wars trilogy.
Episode 1: A New Release
Episode 2: The PR Strikes Back
Episode 3: Return of the NPD
Truly, Halo is the Star Wars of video games.
Eagerly awaiting a final episode of the Halo Sales Wars trilogy.
Episode 1: A New Release
Episode 2: The PR Strikes Back
Episode 3: Return of the NPD
Truly, Halo is the Star Wars of video games.
yukianderson
Member
I agree with this statement. MS has the best PR in the business. I can't wait to see the actual numbers follow by the same people saying that sales don't matter because it made 400 million in profits.
lmao
Gonna be harder to have a better attach rate than Titanfall given the amount of consoles out there during each game's launch.
TheRealTalker
Banned
and you sound like someone jumping to conclusion for someone asking an honest question
everything isn't a console war here
Asking for numbers is downplaying now?
Maintenance
Member
All them bundles.
Wait, people seriously believe that Halo sold over 6 million copies? Seriously?
Wait, people seriously believe that Halo sold over 6 million copies? Seriously?
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