WadiumArcadium
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Fucking hell. Kylo's got some skills. Those people saying he's not force sensitive? Lol.
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George Oscar Bluth II
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That Kylo Ren deflection. Dayum.
fastford58
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Lightsabres are supposed to have weight.
Tatsumaki Senpuukyaku!
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Every line Han has spoken so far has taken me back to being a 6 year old. Not sure I can handle an entire movie of it.
http://variety.com/2015/film/news/star-wars-the-force-awakens-adam-driver-kylo-ren-sith-1201578454/
Only thing we know is that Kylo is not Sith. Abrams said he works under someone who is a powerful figure with the dark side of the force, but never mentions if Kylo is as well.
Only thing we know is that Kylo is not Sith. Abrams said he works under someone who is a powerful figure with the dark side of the force, but never mentions if Kylo is as well.
People are fucking morons.
Fan fiction and fan theories are seriously migraine inducing and the ones for this film have not only been migraine inducing but vomit inducing.
Even to this day people are still theorizing things that have even been shot down but they continue to do so.
I love being a fan, a hard core fan but this shit brings out the real creepy fanbase that lurks for years under rocks and in the deepest reaches of social media.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah, he's a Knight of Ren and that mysterious figure is Gollum. Sort of.
Nope, Kylo just likes making those dramatic poses in the teasers and trailers and with Poe.
He is not using any force abilities or anything, not at all.
He is just going all Power Rangers and shit and throwing down some flare with his move set.
I know, but we've had three films of twirling them like a baton. It's refreshing to see it translated so well.
User 73706
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Are you talking 19 or 39 here
I'm not saying that he's not force-sensitive, but if you read what Abrams actually said, its worded as such in a way that he doesn't confirm whether Kylo is or isn't.
I think its clear in the trailers that he is force-sensitive because he's not going to be throwing around hand gestures and force pushes for nothing. The big question is .. just how adept is he at using the force? Is he a novice, or is he a badass? My gut tells me that he's nowhere near as powerful of a force user as he thinks he is and it'll be obvious in the movie. Just my feeling.
Lifejumper
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Please dont kill kylo in the first movie pls.
Abrams does not discuss it because only the internet even thinks about things like force sensitive or force power levels.
The Sith are a crutch, you can have dark jedi without them being Sith and Abrams went in that direction for Ren and who he works for,
Could they be looking for Sith relics or items to bring them back? Maybe we have more movies. But just because Vader and Palpatine died does not all of the sudden mean another Sith pops out somewhere. There would be a process of finding that knowledge.
tiredheadcrab
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Lol people think this?
So to them Kylo is the Star Wars Universes version of The Wizard from The Wizard of Oz. Weird.
ViewtifulJC
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Lifejumper
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Sparks! Missed them from the OT.
WadiumArcadium
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It looks like he has a smaller role than Rey and Finn as expected, but maybe most of his scenes are spoiler-filled so they're not showing too much in the marketing.
Chezzymann
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I hope this is infrequent because if he does this a lot its basically prequel trilogy lightsaber twirling
From this pic I do not agree, it is fluidly blocking the shot and returning to a ready stance.
I also hope that there is not alot of twirling and that remains to be see but I have faith in JJ,
obin_gam
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Except here he's actually using the twirl to deflect something... Instead of just twirling it for twirling's sake like in the PT
ClosingADoor
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He deflects one shot and then raises his lightsaber again. In the prequels that would have been at least a dozen shots magically stopped.
WadiumArcadium
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He is actually blocking the shots though. I'm expecting the lightsaber combat to be somewhere between the OT and PT.
Chezzymann
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I'm mainly talking about keeping the feel that lightsabers are heavy, twirling a lot even if its actually logical this time could lose that feeling
Charles Foster Kane
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He WOULD look like a douche if he isn't force sensitive.
George Oscar Bluth II
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Apparently the stunt sabers had a good amount of weight to them, so I wouldn't be too worried about the twirly PT bullshit.
Lifejumper
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So like the mandarin from iron man 3?
This is my hope. A happy middle-ground. I love the OT lightsaber battles but if they are trying to hook an all new generation of fans, I can't see them sticking too close to it that overly stilted style they used. It needs to be more kinetic.
The whole idea of the lightsabers being really heavy and needing two hands to hold doesn't make any sense. They carry them from fucking belt loop from their waist FFS, they can't be THAT heavy. I'm glad they gradually moved away from that concept.
GordonHalfman
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So does Sith have some more specific meaning than they actually refer to in the PT? Like it's a specific order with a distinct history and such?
I thought it was just a generic term for dark/fallen jedi and maybe they just wanted to retire the term because it was always kind of lame.
I thought it was just a generic term for dark/fallen jedi and maybe they just wanted to retire the term because it was always kind of lame.
ViewtifulJC
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Funny how "Sith" seems to show up everywhere BUT the original movies. Its even in the original shooting script, but nobody ever says it out loud.
22. INT. DEATH STAR CONFERENCE OFFICE
Eight Imperial Senators and Generals sit around a black conference table. Six Imperial stormtroopers stand guard around the room. A younger, slimy, looking general, Commander Tagge is speaking.
TAGGE
I tell you he’s gone too far. This Sith Lord sent by the Emperor will be our undoing. Until this battle station is fully operational we are vulnerable. The rebel Alliance is too well equipped. They are more dangerous than you realize.
The wounded Admiral Motti twists nervously in his chair.
MOTTI
Dangerous to your starfleet commander, not to this Battle Station! I think Lord Vader knows what he’s doing. The rebellion will continue only as long as those cowards have a sanctuary…
22. INT. DEATH STAR CONFERENCE OFFICE
Eight Imperial Senators and Generals sit around a black conference table. Six Imperial stormtroopers stand guard around the room. A younger, slimy, looking general, Commander Tagge is speaking.
TAGGE
I tell you he’s gone too far. This Sith Lord sent by the Emperor will be our undoing. Until this battle station is fully operational we are vulnerable. The rebel Alliance is too well equipped. They are more dangerous than you realize.
The wounded Admiral Motti twists nervously in his chair.
MOTTI
Dangerous to your starfleet commander, not to this Battle Station! I think Lord Vader knows what he’s doing. The rebellion will continue only as long as those cowards have a sanctuary…
The Sith are an order, a sect or a religion as it were who focused on the dark side of the force though it originally meant a race from Korriban and Ziost who were exiled and enslaved by dark jedi.
There were many Sith and there was chaos before the rule of two was instituted.
tiredheadcrab
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It did show up in marketing material i believe back then. So the term did exist but you had to look for it.
I agree and when EP 1 was coming out it drove me crazy because everyone considered themselves an expert and Sith this and Sith that when they were not talking about anything relating to them.
It has become synonymous with dark jedi or user of the darkside of the force and that is a mistake.
Correct, books and things did refer to Vader as the Dark Lord of the Sith. Illustrated picture books and various marketing items.
WadiumArcadium
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They are supposed to be an order like the Jedi, yeah. A lot of the material featuring the Sith is no longer canon but you basically summarised their origin. They started with a rogue Jedi who discovered the dark side. The Jedi and Sith were supposed to have fought for millennia but after their attempts to overthrow the Jedi failed, they ended up turning on each other. After that Darth Bane established the rule of two we see in the prequel trilogy.
ViewtifulJC
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I like the twirl deflection as a show of strength from Kylo. Like he's just completely out of Rey's league with the blaster, all she can do is fire. He stylishly deflects the last one then does some Force push at the end like, "ok bored of this now you lost"
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LOVE the setting of those gifs.
The forest lightsaber action looks so hot.
The forest lightsaber action looks so hot.
bengraven
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Just realized: so Kylo confronts the two of them at least twice. Once on the forest planet (Yavin?) and the other on the icy planet. Or maybe it's just Kylo and Rey on the forest planet.
I can't wait to get the whole "who is who's kid" thing out of the way. Lando + Leia = Finn needs confirmed.
I can't wait to get the whole "who is who's kid" thing out of the way. Lando + Leia = Finn needs confirmed.
WadiumArcadium
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Grover Cleveland
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Lens flare everywhere tho
Never change JJ
Never change JJ
GentlemanCrow
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They are really doing a good job at making the saber feel dangerous and scary.
Bobby Roberts
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When one of your main weapons is made entirely of light, it makes sense to have that light bounce off the lens.
They did it all the time in the original films. Went so far as to animate it into the shot sometimes, too.
PHOENIXZERO
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So, could they be doing the twins or siblings thing with Kylo Ren and Rey where at some point there was a kidnap attempt that lead to Ren being taken but not Rey, assuming she was born at the time and then Rey being hidden away because of it. I guess it's possible Kylo could be several years older going off the age difference between Adam Driver and Daisy Ridley.
I still think they're going to be doing some sort of play on Jacen and Jaina story even if it's mostly different.
I still think they're going to be doing some sort of play on Jacen and Jaina story even if it's mostly different.
OricWindstar
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I'm curious to see if it reacts harshly when it hits another saber. Would be a cool visual if its "flames" when crazy whenever it hits Finn's clean saber.
User 73706
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Maybe Kylo's just got to twirl the saber in combat every so often so it doesn't burn the hair off his wrist in an idle stance.
brandonh83
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But it's JJ so lol
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