fight would be nowhere near over. boxers also know how to clinch and box from that position. even if she managed to grab him she would still be in danger of getting punched from different angles as she wouldn't be able to immediately secure his arms. even if he can't put all of his strength into a punch she would get severely damaged if he hit her from a clinch.
Ronda Rousey: I can beat Mayweather in a no-rules fight.
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PdotMichael
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A lucky hit against his balls would provide a higher chance to win a fight than any grabing fantasies.
The Spoony Hou
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No, it's not. Strength can always be overcome with enough technique. I'm not defending Rousey, just saying that it's possible, especially in real fights. I don't know anything about sports, nor do I care to.
Reverend Funk
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well when ya put it that way
Antiwhippy
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She has to acquire the rasengan first though.
The Spoony Hou
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She was talking about a no rules fight, so that's what I'm talking about. Now, the guy there gives me some hokey game as a counter-example, well, that doesn't mean anything. Real fights are won by many factors, strength just being one of them.
Reverend Funk
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so if I study real hard could I beat goku
spazchicken
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Yeah but a punch to the titty is never pretty.
Speed, reach and strength are a huge part of real fights. Technique can only go so far.
The Spoony Hou
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Speed, reach and strength can only go so far. Technique has no limits. Just see anyone with decades of martial arts training fight.
Is that you, HolyBaikal?
IrishNinja
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he's top 10, whether casuals are okay with that or not - eventually, more will find canelo/GGG type fighters and move on, but his name will be there long after their interest
couldn'tve said it better myself
mayweather hate too skrong to see it, even after reality did that
_illmatic_
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I bet you think Bruce Lee could've beaten Tyson and Ali too right? All those years of Martial arts training perfecting his technique.
Bruce Lee would have an easier time against them than he would against a wrestler.
Basileus777
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Bruce Lee was like 5 '6 and 150 pounds, he'd get killed by heavyweight fighters whether they're boxers or wrestlers.
Freshmaker
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She has somehow achieved Bruce Lee tier. She's so broken you can't comprehend how broken she is. Any downside or loss can only be rationalized away as part of her ineffable plan.
5'7 and he weighed 165 at one time. He also had extremely powerful strikes. People that aren't trained to stuff wrestlers/grapplers have a very hard time. And most people have zero training when on their backs. Any Joe Schmo can ball a fist and throw their arms.
Big Baybee
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Lol my god.
Coolio McAwesome
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Rousey was embarrassed by Holm. Floyd is stronger, faster, more accurate, and more experienced. Rousey doesn't have the stamina to handle with Holm. There's no way she can hang with Floyd. Rousey has a 0% chance against Mayweather.
Mayweather also has another huge advantage. Pound for pound, men are naturally stronger with broader shoulders, shorter legs, bigger hands, etc. In short, men are naturally better-suited for combat. I don't think there's any debate on this issue, but don't take my word for it.
Rousey herself has cited "bone structure" as a reason for not wanting to fight transgender fighters. This is what Rousey has said about the prospect of fighting transgender fighter, Fallon Fox:
"She can try hormones, chop her pecker off, but its still the same bone structure a man has. Its an advantage. I dont think its fair."
If Rousey can use "bone structure" as a reason why she won't fight transgender fighters, then I will use "bone structure" as one of the many reasons she would have no chance of beating Floyd.
Mayweather also has another huge advantage. Pound for pound, men are naturally stronger with broader shoulders, shorter legs, bigger hands, etc. In short, men are naturally better-suited for combat. I don't think there's any debate on this issue, but don't take my word for it.
Rousey herself has cited "bone structure" as a reason for not wanting to fight transgender fighters. This is what Rousey has said about the prospect of fighting transgender fighter, Fallon Fox:
"She can try hormones, chop her pecker off, but its still the same bone structure a man has. Its an advantage. I dont think its fair."
If Rousey can use "bone structure" as a reason why she won't fight transgender fighters, then I will use "bone structure" as one of the many reasons she would have no chance of beating Floyd.
Why do you think there are different weight classes in nearly every combat sport?
Gohan wasn't in Cell's weight class.
UFC was forced to for sanctioning.
Obviously it's to protect Butterbean from Mighty Mouse.
OpinionatedCyborg
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I actually think some of the other women in the division have a better chance against Floyd than Rousey because they are wrestlers. If Floyd uses a boxing stance of any sort combined with his Philly shell that he loves, any wrestler will be able to double or single leg him and take him down easily.
In contrast, Rousey uses minimal wrestling, choosing instead to initiate a clinch standing up, get a headlock, and then work in the clinch until she has the leverage to do an uchi mata or harai goshi. If Floyd is smart, he will stay mobile and counter punch on an angle when she rushes straight in, which is exactly what Holm did. Rousey is really bad at cutting off the ring, choosing to chase her opponents, which should give Floyd plenty of room to work. After he cracks her, he should avoid the clinch. If he treats it like a boxing match and clinches when she gets close, he's likely going for a ride and getting arm barred.
Mayweather with a few months of training will destroy Rousey, and Mayweather with a couple days of preparation should be able to come up with a gameplan that will defeat her regularly. But I think if you kidnapped each of them in the middle of the night and dropped them into a ring with the threat that they fight each other or you murder their families, Ronda has a chance at winning.
In contrast, Rousey uses minimal wrestling, choosing instead to initiate a clinch standing up, get a headlock, and then work in the clinch until she has the leverage to do an uchi mata or harai goshi. If Floyd is smart, he will stay mobile and counter punch on an angle when she rushes straight in, which is exactly what Holm did. Rousey is really bad at cutting off the ring, choosing to chase her opponents, which should give Floyd plenty of room to work. After he cracks her, he should avoid the clinch. If he treats it like a boxing match and clinches when she gets close, he's likely going for a ride and getting arm barred.
Mayweather with a few months of training will destroy Rousey, and Mayweather with a couple days of preparation should be able to come up with a gameplan that will defeat her regularly. But I think if you kidnapped each of them in the middle of the night and dropped them into a ring with the threat that they fight each other or you murder their families, Ronda has a chance at winning.
In the case of Mayweather vs Rousey, Mayweather has much more experience and technique in regards to fighting though. He's been a world-class fighter since Rousey was in grade school. He's one of the best martial artists on the planet and has proven it for nearly 20 years.
IrishNinja
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congrats on taking the heat off that bruce lee guy with this post
Coolio McAwesome
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I think the female wrestlers in the UFC would be twice as likely to defeat Mayweather than Rousey. Unfortunately, 2 x 0 is still 0. No woman in the UFC would have a chance against Floyd.
The Spoony Hou
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I was speaking in general. I'm sure Mayweather can kick Rousey's butt.
Real fighting is not sport. Also, yes, strength helps a lot. I just said it's not impossible to overcome. Again, I'm not saying it's easy, just saying it's possible.
DaMasta113
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Forget actual fight. You can tell most of the guys in this thread have never trained in martial arts for even a day.
I said it before and I'll say it again. Floyd would literally kill Ronda in a fight. This is even more apparent after seeing how shitty Ronda's boxing is.
Xan Kriegor
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Did none of you watch the movie Grudge Match? A one eye blind old ex-boxer punched a young UFC/MMA fighter so fast he didn't see it coming.
I don't like Mayweather, but he would annihilate Rousey. I find it funny that people shout "yeh but no rules!" and forget that also counts for Mayweather then. What can Rousey possibly do?
I don't like Mayweather, but he would annihilate Rousey. I find it funny that people shout "yeh but no rules!" and forget that also counts for Mayweather then. What can Rousey possibly do?
OpinionatedCyborg
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If a boxer isn't prepared to defend takedowns, he or she is gonna go down.
I've been in 1000 fights, and I'll fuck you up brah.
Xan Kriegor
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Wow. We're at that level now?
IrishNinja
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nature boy didn't hold those alligators down for you to say dumb stuff about how "any wrestler could take down floyd, easily" bruh
OpinionatedCyborg
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Sure he did.
I can't believe an Irishman is calling me dumb. I would challenge you to a fight as well, but that wouldn't be fair to me in the same way it wouldn't be fair for a human to race against a horse in the Kentucky Derby. This is outrageous... take back what you said.
LegendofDragoonLives
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The only way Ronda wouldn't get curbstomped to humiliating levels in the first 60 seconds of the fights is if she had 9 tails inside of her.
cityhunter
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But you got the resolve for it thou?
Angelus Errare
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This thread kills me. Ronda can beat Floyd because he's a boxer they say...as Ronda got her ass dismantled by a boxer.
DonasaurusRex
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It's like the "mayweather fought this person 5 years past his PRIME!" argument, somehow Mayweather didn't age 5 years like the other guys...
Angelus Errare
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Did he really tho? I mean Gohan's working a full time 9-5 job, coming home tired to a wife yelling and shit.
Goku is out training doing what he loves with his real son Goten.
Goku doesn't have a 401k though. Catching giant fish can only sustain you so long
Angelus Errare
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Goku has Gohan making money. Gohan isn't going to leave his mom broke, and because of that Goku is set.
_illmatic_
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The thing I've realized about these threads, is that some people just truly believe all day everyday grappler/MMA beats boxing PERIOD. Doesn't matter what weight class, doesn't matter which athlete, doesn't matter experience, strength, speed,NOTHING. Just magically if you know grappling/MMA you would always beat any boxer.
Shit is laughable and I honestly don't believe they really watch combat sports besides UFC. Their mindset has to be "Boxer only punch, MMA fighters do that plus a lot more!" So that's why we have such a silly debate about a woman in a weak division in UFC who just got KO'd by a pro boxer turned MMA fighter beating an ALL TIME GREAT, HALL OF FAMER, P4P, boxer of our generation.
This argument would make more sense if we were talking Chris Weidman vs Gennady Golovkin, but Ronda Rousey vs Mayweather? C'mon son!
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