Play-Asia says SJWs to blame for DOAX3 not coming west
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They do for the console ports, they always the porn removed.
Naw, from what I saw it's a word for the super-duper zealous where the regular people then are simply mixed in and get guilty-by-association, even if they don't want to.
Plus as a social worker has once posted out, noone posting online DESERVES this monicker. Sitting behind a keyboard typing shit? Some warrior you are. Join the social workers to see what it really means to fight for social justice.
Just a small musing.
Ultimate_Trainer
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HP_Wuvcraft
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I doubt you want to be defending a post saying "a guy said women said stuff on facebook so that's proof of SJWs".
You are just splitting hairs. Well, both leads to the same end result.
ipukespiders
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I can't even
Massive Duck. C.M.
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You mean the Council of Social Justice didn't invade KT meetings and force their hand? Unbelievable
GeorgioCostanzaX
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Yikes...not up on my internet memes wtf is SJW?
Also any word on a digital release? Seems like that would be the way to go given the exchange rate.
Also any word on a digital release? Seems like that would be the way to go given the exchange rate.
I honestly didn't know either. Thanks.
Crossing Eden
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Hence why it's stupid, no idea why any company would want to associate themselves with people who use terms like SJW unironically unless this is a specifically calculated move to take advantage of that group of people's feelings about people that they deem to be too PC.
To all those saying it's a business decision... in that case it's a business decision that appears to make no sense.
Let's see:
1. The text in the game is already being localised for the Asian version;
2. Voice acting is the vast majority of what remains, in a game with (if the originals are any indication) a very, very limited script. They could stick to subs if they want to go cheap.
3. Going digital-release-only in the West would mean that the potential expense of manufacturing and publishing and the risks involved are gone
4. DoA5 was very successful in the west
5. DoA5 sold tons of DLC bikinis in the west, which is surely the model DoAX3 will use. There's no reason to believe it wouldn't be as successful a business model, let alone not successful enough to make back the meagre localisation costs
6. The internet and DoA5 fans online have clearly been hyped for this game, and there has been plenty of discussion (and extremely positive feedback) on all major western gaming boards. There's a decent-sized audience in the west anticipating the game, TK know this through social media.
How does it make sense not to release it? It doesn't, and therefore I'm inclined to believe their answer.
Let's see:
1. The text in the game is already being localised for the Asian version;
2. Voice acting is the vast majority of what remains, in a game with (if the originals are any indication) a very, very limited script. They could stick to subs if they want to go cheap.
3. Going digital-release-only in the West would mean that the potential expense of manufacturing and publishing and the risks involved are gone
4. DoA5 was very successful in the west
5. DoA5 sold tons of DLC bikinis in the west, which is surely the model DoAX3 will use. There's no reason to believe it wouldn't be as successful a business model, let alone not successful enough to make back the meagre localisation costs
6. The internet and DoA5 fans online have clearly been hyped for this game, and there has been plenty of discussion (and extremely positive feedback) on all major western gaming boards. There's a decent-sized audience in the west anticipating the game, TK know this through social media.
How does it make sense not to release it? It doesn't, and therefore I'm inclined to believe their answer.
Well, glad I stopped buying from them.
Thanks for the links, Aeana!
It's funnier because anyone who's ever imported anything more than like, a single game avoids Play-Asia like the plague already because they overcharge by ridiculous amounts most of the time.
leatherhat
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Koei Tecmo localizes games that definitely sell less then this would, plus its a DLC money machine. I wish they would bring it over but I understand wanting to avoid the controversy.
charlequin
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Given that the usual complaint in these circumstances is that people are being "too sensitive" it's kind of remarkable that in this case the nominal explanation is that this publisher is so afraid of even hypothetical criticism that they're skipping localization for a game that no one has even complained about yet.
Given some of the ludicrous responses in this thread alone I rather doubt it'll have a serious negative impact on their sales, true.
Koei Tecmo is releasing almost everything overseas, even niche games, and you think this is a simple business decision when the game even is going to be localized to english?
Blackleg-sanji1
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Its not here yet. Im more so thinking they dont want backlash when it comes out. When it releases and people who never cared see that you can bet the articles,rants etc will follow
captainpat
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So they wouldn't have to deal with people complaining about a game they weren't going to buy anyways.
You had one job Play-Asia, just shut up and take my money and now, sure as hell you could not follow the former.
The only backlash K-T would have gotten was if they had just come and and said if it was not as financially viable for Western Release
. I think all those just pointing fingers at the "SJW's" are giving Koei Tecmo a pass on this and buying into the bait to get the target of the outrage off themselves.
And I really wonder if the people making the most stink about this were actually going to buy this game, or if it simply is an easy target to push their agenda.
The only backlash K-T would have gotten was if they had just come and and said if it was not as financially viable for Western Release
(which is most likely the truth)
And I really wonder if the people making the most stink about this were actually going to buy this game, or if it simply is an easy target to push their agenda.
people who are social workers are not the only people fighting for social justice hope this helps
I got to this controversy a bit late and honestly thought it was because they were posting links to a Breitbart article regarding this mess on their facebook. Take that for what you will.
just about sums up my opinion about that.
just about sums up my opinion about that.
TurnipFritters
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Because now you have to pay the import price which is higher than it would cost if the game were released in North America, while they save on the costs of bringing it to North America.
HP_Wuvcraft
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SJW has spilled out from just sexism to all kinds of prejudice. #SJW got a lot of mileage during Ferguson last year.
charlequin
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How does the possibility that a 17-year-old will write a mean tumblr post about the game provide a more plausible explanation for skipping it, exactly?
Massive Duck. C.M.
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DOA5 being "very successful" in the west sounds very unlikely. Any proof?
kuroneko0509
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ugh_the_boot
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Yea I bought both games (PAL). What is SJW? OP makes no sense to me.
They release Atelier games on the vita. I fail to think of any other business reasons.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Now we both know more than some random tumblr post will happen. Kotaku and polygon alone will have a field day
It won't sell because it's related. It's a different series around girls in bikinis doing a bunch of shallow mini-games and have been reviewed poorly.
Where are you even getting this info?
BocoDragon
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I'm curious what people think..
Is claiming the game was yanked by pressure from social justice movements, and that's bad, the evil? (Whether it is true or not)
Or is the term SJW itself the evil?
I guess I want to know if a new slur was just birthed in front of our eyes.
Is claiming the game was yanked by pressure from social justice movements, and that's bad, the evil? (Whether it is true or not)
Or is the term SJW itself the evil?
I guess I want to know if a new slur was just birthed in front of our eyes.
CenturionKei
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LOL, there right. It's unfortunate that people are being so offended for some swimsuits.
But who really cares? The Japanese version isn't region locked or anything. You want to be caught in public buying it?
But who really cares? The Japanese version isn't region locked or anything. You want to be caught in public buying it?
Garrett Hawke
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Well you see she has 3000 followers. If she and her 3000 followers get together and boycott the game, that's 3000 people who won't buy the game. That doesn't leave very many people left to buy it, and you can see how that's eating into their audience.
They will WIN BUSINESS either way because they are COMPLAINING A GAME CAN ONLY BE OBTAINED BY MEANS OF SITE LIKE THEIRS
This is facetious. You know well that what they're afraid of is a media blowup accusing them of being anti-feminist, anti-modern-western-values, and in the worst case scenario profiting off sexualising (fictional) underage girls.
Those kinds of accusations could certainly be something the company, and the employees within, do NOT want to deal with for any amount of money. It's not the 17 year olds on Tumblr they're thinking about.
Garrett Hawke
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...and? How will that negatively affect the sales of the game at all? All of that criticism can still be levied regardless of whether or not the game is localised.
How would that affect the company, either? PR people have to do overtime during launch week?
Velcro Fly
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amiibo scalping scum
Well we know you guys took legos from boys once this year, so boobs would be the obvious escalation of that attitude.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I find it funny people are quick to say lol im ot buying from there no more. Ive seen way worst be said to gamers and the community and these people are some of the most successful
I mean, both companies stand to make a lot of money from doing things this way, so why not?
The game releases at like, what, 9500 yen in Japan? That's a big premium price, even for what this is. You can't sell that game to a western audience for $90+, so if you localize it and sell it cheaper you open yourself up to reverse importing. On top of the brand being what it is and the market being so small, it makes little sense. Blame a boogeyman, push the import sales of the Asian version through the main retailer stocking it, make money.
There are good alternatives for Japanese games, but for Asia release it is very limited. If you want LE or CE of Asian release you don't have much of a choice.
So are you saying that Dead or Alive 6 will not be released on West ?
I just want to play games with jiggly boobs and hot girls. I'm very lonely.
Not sure why Play-Asia had to make it political.
Trying to exploit dumb people that feel like this whole debacle is some sort of war with factions.
In particular those who'll feel like buying the game from Play-Asia will be sticking it to some imaginary enemy.
SJW is such a stupid term and has become a new bogeyman for several people on the internet. It really doesn't mean shit.
Northeastmonk
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I like Play-Asia, but I thought Goldmountain (their PR guy) hates North America for some reason. I think they're one of the best places to order imports from. I may have misinterpreted his language or something.
I totally get why they'd say this.
I totally get why they'd say this.
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