haha what? Grasping at straws much, buff man together equals gay joke? okay. The artist George has drawn men like that since forever including the game itself without any gay undertones.
Play-Asia says SJWs to blame for DOAX3 not coming west
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haha what? Grasping at straws much, buff man together equals gay joke? okay. The artist George has drawn men like that since forever including the game itself without any gay undertones.
Zambayoshi
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I think PlayAsia knows its customer base pretty well. Good on them for giving DOAX3 fans the option. That being said, Tecmo Koei is probably thinking that the amount of negative press it gets from releasing DOAX3 in the West would not be offset by the relatively low sales it would generate.
I'm not a DOA fan but I am a fan of choice
I'm not a DOA fan but I am a fan of choice
Disgaea manages to break even to continue the series. It's a supposedly low budget title. Assets are reused.
Tales of Games are managed by a publisher with a lot of money who has no fucking idea what to do with the IP since Vesperia.
Atelier has a niche to cater to that breaks even.
Those games ARENT fighting games. Fighting games have much more to do in their lifespan than just break even. Fighting games in this climate has to cultivate a community to continue promoting their game with competitions, funding tournaments, consistent balance updates and additional content. Fighting games are also fucking expensive to make which is why the F2P model is so leaned on with modern fighters today in regards to content distribution.
Stop comparing DOA to other games not fighting games and consider who they're selling DOA to (in this case, not just fucking perverts like me. People who...play fighting games.)
shadow2810
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VGP also sells import games so there is a chance that they will stock the Asian version. Screw playasia and their ridiculous markup though.
entremet
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More and more niche Japanese software gets localized today than ever before.
Not getting extreme 3 does seem strange. I wonder if KT will ever comment in proper PR channels.
I think it's coming myself. Probably digital only is my bet.
People keep saying this, but was this game ever even promoted to western audiences? Most people who would complain about this kind of game might not even be aware of its existence yet.
Though I'm going to find it hilarious if the scrutiny mysteriously picks up after this.
charlequin
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No it hasn't! Because it's only been announced for Japan and Asia!
Garrett Hawke
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http://gamasutra.com/blogs/Christia...rge_Kamitani_and_being_stupid_on_Facebook.php
The artist actually apologised because many read it as homophobia which may or may not have been intentional.
I think PlayAsia knows its customer base pretty well. Good on them for giving DOAX3 fans the option. That being said, Tecmo Koei is probably thinking that the amount of negative press it gets from releasing DOAX3 in the West would not be offset by the relatively low sales it would generate.
I'm not a DOA fan but I am a fan of choice
The missing thing is, why does Tecmo all the sudden care? Regarding a game close to noone cares about.
BocoDragon
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Xtreme 2 was a $10 bargain bin staple, so I can believe it.
partyphone
Banned
I don't know why some people continue with this "is about sales" argument.
We are not talking about Sega, it's Koei Tecmo.
Impossible to think that DOAX 3 would sell worse than Ar nosurge or Nobunaga's Ambition.
Jawmuncher
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This is just a odd situation. We know the game will be in English due to the asia territory release. DoA is probably one of if not the biggest KT franchise in the west name wise aside from maybe ninja Gaiden. Pretty sure this title would sell more than something like Nobunagas Ambition in the west. Really makes you wonder what exactly is holding them back from a release. Especially when a good chunk of work will already be done. Since KT basically runs like a Xseed/Aksys with a lot of titles they dev/publish.
I'm personally thinking that they're just stirring things up vaguely to try and get more sales. We've had similar ideas in the past "I'm buying this just to support them bringing it over".
I'm personally thinking that they're just stirring things up vaguely to try and get more sales. We've had similar ideas in the past "I'm buying this just to support them bringing it over".
You're incredibly disingenuous or incredibly dense.
Blackleg-sanji1
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I already decided to import so it whatever i guess. I more so what to kno why people are saying they wont buy from play asia anymore because of simple tweets.
As you say, he apologized because others read it that way, not because of the intent.
You genuinely believe DOAX3's budget wouldn't be a contributing factor to a desire for high sales? Soft Engine must be expensive as hell unlike these other RPGs that probably don't cost as much as DOA and even Musou does.
Yes, a FULLY 3D VISUAL NOVEL/MINIGAME WITH VR SUPPORT is going to have a much higher budget than a fucking strategy RPG. They still need to compensate that cost with good sales. Tbh don't want to risk it in a region that doesn't give a shit about it and its previous releases.
TriAceJP
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Yeah I read a more clear story of what's going on. Disregard.
PfantzyPantz
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Embarrassing tweets.
Primethius
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Seems like an excuse to mask what would otherwise be not enough sales to justify the cost.
Yeah, this guy's definitely gonna get fired.
Blackleg-sanji1
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We aren't getting summer lesson...
Mind posting your link?
Because the only thing I have is
And remember no chartz numbers.
Jawmuncher
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Are you going against or with the quoted. Since a higher cost to get a profit would equal wanting to release it in more areas not less.
Sapphire Dreams
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I honestly think using the term SJW might actually beneficial to them. Controversy sells.
Huh.
I think they just won't release because it may not be a good game and it just won't sell. They being afraid of articles or criticism seems like a cheap excuse.
And those tweets are really dumb, but if they get more sales in response to them, good for PA, they need to make money in any way possible I guess.
entremet
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Play Asia is actually very small. It could even be the owner of the business. Who knows.
So... you are giving me another reason why KT would want to release the game overseas...
Not if they're pulling a Protein World.
Northeastmonk
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I think it's because GG came after a pretty popular console gen. We really didn't have a lot to go off of going into this gen besides F2P, popular FPS multiplayer games, PC games, and people not wanting to upgrade yet.
One thing leads to another and we have games getting called out right before they ship or someone does not want a game that normally would come out without any issues, a chance at the market.
Games like these shouldn't be held back because we're just censoring video games. No one is boycotting a film anymore due to subject matter. This game could have come out years ago without any issues. It's a real shame we're having to fight this battle again. I don't mind if the industry changes their way of delivering content, but to hold us back is treating us like children.
I'm not getting into why a visual novel isn't coming out either. I'm saying we've done just fine with titles like this. If people don't want it then they don't have to buy it, but it is nobody's responsibility to censor video games. It's being too parental over video games. There will be adult content delivered either way if you ask me. I think we had more freedom on the original Xbox and PS2 in some ways.
I feel that Tomb Raider or another game could show less skin, but somewhere there lies a problem. There's always a large problem and I think it's going to one day cause artist and development teams to go into hiding because of it.
It's so obvious if you live elsewhere and Google GG or anything about sex in video games. They're trying to abandon the old ways of "expression" and they're keeping it as tight ruled as it could possibly get. I'm not going to act like a parent-gamer unless I'm looking at the ESRB rating of the game my future child wants to buy. I think I know how to interpret the ESRB.
Garrett Hawke
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Apologising for people being offended by your homophobic joke is like not apologising at all. "Sorry it offended you" ≠ "Sorry I made a gay joke"
Against. DOAX3 like all games would have to break even to meet expectations for the title in their home reason before even considering localization in NA/EU.
McKeeverFever
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They are right though. All of the last one were released in the west. The only thing that's changed between then and now is that Social Justice seems to be in vogue these days with all the cool kids.
charlequin
Banned
They're an import Japanese games shop, their brand isn't exactly going to be hurt by some unhinged whining about social justice.
I'm not convinced investors/ stock holders, which I'm sure Japanese businesses are also beholden to, would agree that foreign tweets and tubmlr posts criticizing their game is a good enough reason to leave money on the table.
From reading your posts you seem to think it's more likely that they genuinely believe that feminism and "SJW"s are actively hurting their business.
It's ridiculous and disingenuous to pretend that people who would not have bought the game are to blame for taking it away from people who would.
There has been a discussion at the closed thread but I think climate has changed quite bit since first DoA arrived, or at least KT thinks as such (and from viewing outside of Western society I personally agree with KT too. I'm afraid Japan would the same trend follow eventually sooner or later).
TurnipFritters
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Yes, a lot of nerds will go out and order it from play asia simply because they think they're really sticking it to the SJWs by buying an overpriced not very good game.
idk the latest DoA came out last February so.
And pirates cause climate change
I remember reading plenty of people (mostly on Reddit) saying they were going to buy Hatred only to spite SJWs. This is absolutely going to happen, lol.
They're pretty expensive, brah. I've moved to Amazon and Nippon Yasan.
Jawmuncher
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That's the thing though, it's already being localized to English in Asia. I think that where the confusion is.
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