Play-Asia says SJWs to blame for DOAX3 not coming west
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No, they wouldn't have
that's why the past two games in the series were banned
TurnipFritters
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My favorite is when people are like "I don't want politics in my video games" when it comes to having LGBT/racially diverse/well written female characters, but seem to love the heck out of the Bioshock franchise.
Crash Station
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Verbal warriors.
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Ahahaahahah. What a weird persecution complex.
But don't forget to buy the game to fight censorship! Only $140+S&H on Playasia! Fight the SJW tyranny! They'll be super-angry if you get the limited edition!
So if it would be different game, media would call for a ban? Heh?
That is the main reason the game is not coming over here. Hell , when Tekken 7 release the anime looking girl pics and videos . Neogaf threw a fit. And now she is not coming in the western release . The same media that is now wanting to ban Princess Leia slave outfit toys. Even though , she had been in stores since the 80's
The past two games weren't anywhere near as realistic, and they didn't have a 12 year old on the roster.
lol
They've certainly lost mine. I've bought from them many times.
Not to pick on you specifically, but I do note that you appear to determine "sexiness" exclusively through cup size. This is the difference between the holistic sexualization of men and the reductionistic, piece-wise sexualization of women and distillation of them down to sole physical attributes.
On a broader note, thete is nothing wrong will expressions of sexuality: in fact, I encourage them (in proper situations)! But there should be healthy context, not these "sex is a reward (that you are entitled to)" and "the only way to get sexual gratification is through subversive actions in non-sexual situations" tropes that paint sexuality in such an unhealthy and unrealistic way.
It's this tabooing of porn and sex yet overt sexualization of the mundane that is problematic and creating unhealthy conflations, in my opinion.
In a world where sakura games release on steam, Senran Kagura and Oneechanbara come to the west and NOBODY has asked for a ban, i find it very hard to believe there would be any effort to ban doax3.
Literally, there is zero evidence of mainstream video games being banned for sexual content, and there are more sexual games in mainstream availability now than ever. So i don't know where you're getting this from.
You have a very hard time delineating between criticism and attempts at legislation, it seems.
Steve Youngblood
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I think Harada mostly joked about that. As for Leia, nobody has ever tried to ban that. The only news on that at all was a leak that Disney's internal strategy was going to try to phase out releasing products that featured the slave outfit and focus on different versions more. There was no outside pressure at all to do that as far as I'm aware. I urge you to look into that news more.
Media did not call for a ban. Parents complained that she is pretty much the only Leia toy available from Hasbro.
That isn't why slave Leia merchandise is being scaled back.
ShockingAlberto
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Weird how games like Criminal Girls, the previous three DOAX games, and mangagamer's literal porn games (sometimes involving children) aren't banned.
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Ahahahah. Please tell me why DOAX1 and 2, Senran Kagura, Criminal Girls, Akiba's Trip, Onechambara, Dungeon Travellers, etc. were released without problem then?
Are you so insecure you think there's a conspiracy theory to ban your sexualized medias every time somone speaks negatively of them?
TurnipFritters
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This would have been the straw that broke the camel's back, because people definitely seriously care about, and pay attention to, doax3.
Lucky Chloe not coming out in the US was a joke and had more to do wih her being super anime-infleunced rather than sexy.
Plenty of similar, and more sexual, games get released in the United States every month and no one protests. Having DOAX pop up on a list of most sexist games is bo different than having MKX pop up on a list of most overly violent games.
Yes because this just like the Holocaust. CHRIST!
Were you alive when Mortal Kombat girls had realistic proportions... as a result of being portrayed by real women? Lol, MK has been a SJW series since day one, apparently.
Boobs that aren't massive = SJW. Unless it's Marie Rose, I guess?
What is inherent to a conservative culture that would make it more accepting of sexualized media? In fact, isn't that antithetical to conservatism in regards to female sexuality?
capylikesgames
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I can't help but feel this was all a marketing scheme. Not on PlayAsia's part; the way the developers openly admitted to this staying away from the US due to "potential controversy" kind of felt like a stab at "SJWs" more so than anything else, despite how vague it was. Also, I recall seeing a Tecmo Koei Twitter account one-upping PlayAsia, but correct me if I'm wrong. Nobody is stopping them from bringing it over here. Heck, nobody cared about it as far as I saw, maybe some radicals.
I'm not going to deny that it worked, but I would be happy to see this affect them in the long run. I'm glad I haven't bought from them yet, and they've definitely lost any potential future customer within me. I'm more so disappointed with the idea that the higher ups saw this tweet, and thought it was a great idea, than I am with anything else in the situation. It's upsetting to have your opinions generalized and trivialized. Again, it's a good idea for now; will probably sell more copies of that game than it would've otherwise, but resenting a portion of your customer base is never a smart idea when looking down the road. Very brash on their part.
I think the silliest thing about it, though, is people acting like the Dead or Alive spin-offs are amazing games that have a message too important to censor (not that they've ever gotten censored in the first place). If you like the game, that's fine, and all, but people shouldn't act like it's going to break walls, and stuff. It's just a fan-service game. I'm guessing that was the goal in mind, though. Sparking hype for a game that otherwise wouldn't have had any.
I'm not going to deny that it worked, but I would be happy to see this affect them in the long run. I'm glad I haven't bought from them yet, and they've definitely lost any potential future customer within me. I'm more so disappointed with the idea that the higher ups saw this tweet, and thought it was a great idea, than I am with anything else in the situation. It's upsetting to have your opinions generalized and trivialized. Again, it's a good idea for now; will probably sell more copies of that game than it would've otherwise, but resenting a portion of your customer base is never a smart idea when looking down the road. Very brash on their part.
I think the silliest thing about it, though, is people acting like the Dead or Alive spin-offs are amazing games that have a message too important to censor (not that they've ever gotten censored in the first place). If you like the game, that's fine, and all, but people shouldn't act like it's going to break walls, and stuff. It's just a fan-service game. I'm guessing that was the goal in mind, though. Sparking hype for a game that otherwise wouldn't have had any.
NoblesseOblige
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Is this real?
Is this a troll post
Harada was joking about Lucky Chloe not being in the western releases
then no need for you to be mad because they're not making any changes to the game
Dozens of game makers do. And, there will always be outside influence affecting what developers make simply becuase they have to sell. It could mean anything from putting in some FPS elements to pandering to Otaku to putting in a bunch of silly gore, but games, and art in general, is still a business that has to sell.
Corronchilejano
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Cool, cause that didn't happen. They made the game they wanted and then decided not to release it in the west.
He was just joking about that, they're not removing her from the western release.
They made that game
Ragnorok64
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Am I still the only one who's mind automatically goes to Shonen Jump Weekly when I see SJW?
Gucci Messiah
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All the crying on both sides is tiresome but at least playasia is keeping it real. Also their twitter is hilarious, I followed.
Games are focus tested, marketed, commercial products. As for Mortal Kombat, Ed Boon himself said he wanted to make characters more realistic, so let him "make the game he wants to make", I guess
Crash Station
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This kind of criticism does not make waves in Japan. They have stuff FAR worse than DOAX3 that has almost zero controversy surrounding it.
Valdfellgar
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It's not exactly that it's more accepting it's that they deal with it in a different way, mainly ignoring it. I've heard that a social norm in Japan when you don't like someone that instead of confronting or insulting them you instead outright ignore them.
I think that translates into how Japan handles things like Otaku culture and sexualized content: ignore it and allow it to do its own thing. It's all pretty niche over there anyway.
you should be mostly concerned about publishers then
also you now have no right to complain about anything ever because otherwise you're trying to force your agenda on others
EVERY developer is free to release the game they want.
Big companies change their games to fit the market and sell more since the dawn of time.
Chances are the objetification of women started EXACTLY like that, changing a game to appeal more to the market.
The market has changed.
mckmas8808
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What crying? Who are you talking to?
NoblesseOblige
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How do you know MK developers didn't want to make smaller breasted women?
Crash Station
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There are definitely jumpy people that will take all criticism against something they like as a personal attack, but I feel this undermines when personal attacks actually do happen, which is pretty often depending on where you go.
Not that people don't have a right to be criticized for what they like, but it's not surprising to see said people retaliate.
Yoshi
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I don't think this is quite right. Yes, it is ultimately TK's decision, but if TK says they felt pressured towards not releasing it here, it's not unnatural for players who want DoAX (of which I certainly am none) to be mad at the people who pressure TK to such a decision. Games that depict females in a way DoAX does, or even in a more subtle way, receive a lot of flak around here. So TK might very well have wanted to avoid the risk of being the target of a huge campaign against themselves which could affect other, more important games or even partnerships.
Of course it is an economic decision, but considering they do not even release it in digital form - which would cost them absolutely nothing other than the necessary age rating, considering the translation is already done - I'm inclined to believe them, that the pressure they feel is the reason for the decision. So in turn I think it is natural for fans of such games to be mad at people who generate a climate in which a company would deem it as too risky to release a game they want. Of course, if DoAX was projected to be super successful like, say, GTA, TK would just swallow the negativity, so bad sales of the predecessors certainly plays a role.
We actually know Boon wanted to, lol. But maybe a blue haired feminazi was holding a gun to his head
To be fair, criminal girls and dungeon travelers are banned on GAF
Familienoberhauptvogel
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that's still violent
That'd work if games were art to be exhibited and auctioned off.
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