Are the Cleveland Browns the worst franchise in all of sports?

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DietRob

i've been begging for over 5 years.
If it's brown flush it down.

Not the worst sports franchise. But easily the worst football franchise. Bengals had the 'lost decade' but finally in recent years have at least made the playoffs 4 years in a row. Still looking for that first playoff win in the new Bengals era.

76ers would have my vote for worst in all of sports.
 

nillah

Banned
Elephant in the room that's just waiting to be milked is would if the brownssssssssssssssss started Johnny Football.

I mean, the browns didn't start Manzel and look what you get.


you throw a lebron james in the browns locker room and you automatically, AUTOMATICALLY have a winning franchise. I don't get how you have a club in the Cleveland Cavs and their attitude doesn't rub off on the Browns. Truly a franchise that needs to WAKE UP. As far as worst teams go my vote goes to their neighbor the Indians.
 
If by worst, you mean "most evil" , then no, it's the Loosely Affiliated Blob of States and Cities That Can't Field Their Own Team But Mostly Boston Last Refuge of a Scoundrels.

This.

Also no, not as long as the Maple Leafs exist, they personify suck and failure.
 

Trey

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Lions went defeated for an entire season, so I'm going with them. Browns are close, though. Cleveland has suffered so much sports heartbreak.
 

XiaNaphryz

LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
As bad as Cleveland has it overall, Philadelphia is having an epically TERRIBLE year overall so far. Hell, the Phillies have the highest win % of their teams this year, and they were the worst MLB team this past season by far.

This graphic is a couple days old, but gives you a general idea:

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And it should be noted that all the 76ers wins for the calendar year are from LAST season. They're 0-18 right now.
 
76's
Browns
Marlins
Rockies
Leafs

Seems like there are just a lot of horribly run sports franchises as of late but the Browns are pretty darn bad. A lot of franchises can say they have it bad but Browns bad? Ehhh.

Locally speaking, except for the Broncos, Denver sports are all special sorts of awful. Nuggets bad, Avalanche bad...Rockies...LOL.
 

demolitio

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Come on, at least differentiate between pre-Modell fucking and post-Modell fucking. The expansion team, I could agree with, but anyone older than 25 can remember when they were Super Bowl favorites too. They were cursed in many ways, but the expansion era Browns are just incompetent.

To say the franchise itself is the worst ever when Paul Brown made them a dynasty and practically created modern-day football is an insult. Of course Modell had to fuck that up too.
 

MightyKAC

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It's always hilarious to me when someone uses the phrase "Take the Browns to the Superbowl" because no one is EVER gonna think that that means anything other than taking a shit.
 
The 1999-present Browns? Without a fucking doubt.

The pre-1995 Browns were a solid franchise, even though their greatest successes (and make no mistake - they had a TON of success) were in the pre-Super Bowl era.

Though the league granted the new Browns the old Browns' history, I really don't think they should be considered the same organization. The real Browns died in 1995.
 

Stasis

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The Oilers deserve more attention simply because:

Imagine if, for 4 out of the last 6 years, the single best talent to join the sport that year was given to the same single team and they still managed to be fucking last out of 30. There are a lot of teams playing over a long season and yet there they are, dead last or close enough that they win the lotto. The other 2 years they picked 3rd and 7th overall respectively.

It sucks for the sport in general because they don't do anything with their talent and some of those guys are amazing. It's a black hole where talent goes to die. I feel bad for the players.

That's all relatively recent though, compared to other teams mentioned. Still impressive.
 
Man have you seen philly lately?

The Knicks have been mediocre for like a decade or so. Outside of that lucky season with a old Jason Kidd.
 
It's the Sixers. The entire franchise isn't trying and it is forming a toxic culture that will be impossible to reverse. Players will never want to play there, and local NBA fans like me will eventually stop paying to see games when the other teams rest all their stars when they come to town. They might as well move to New Jersey.
 
76's
Browns
Marlins
Rockies
Leafs

Seems like there are just a lot of horribly run sports franchises as of late but the Browns are pretty darn bad. A lot of franchises can say they have it bad but Browns bad? Ehhh.

Locally speaking, except for the Broncos, Denver sports are all special sorts of awful. Nuggets bad, Avalanche bad...Rockies...LOL.
Two World Series in the last 18 years is probably better than 90% of the teams in the Majors.
 

gabbo

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The Oilers deserve more attention simply because:

Imagine if, for 4 out of the last 6 years, the single best talent to join the sport that year was given to the same single team and they still managed to be fucking last out of 30. There are a lot of teams playing over a long season and yet there they are, dead last or close enough that they win the lotto. The other 2 years they picked 3rd and 7th overall respectively.

It sucks for the sport in general because they don't do anything with their talent and some of those guys are amazing. It's a black hole where talent goes to die. I feel bad for the players.

That's all relatively recent though, compared to other teams mentioned. Still impressive.

Maybe recently, but on an all time list, the 80s alone make up for the slide since their last Stanley Cup appearance, which wasn't that long ago as to be worse than other teams in the league (ie Leafs, the Coyotes).
 

dakun

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It used to be a title reserved for the Clippers but they have since turned out a string of respectable seasons despite Chris Paul and Blake Griffin being the most hated men in the NBA. I can't think of a franchise, at least in american sports, who have put together such a consistent run of failure in everything they do. Let's discuss.

that's news to me. Why is that? I watch the NBA from overseas and never got the feeling they were hated.
 
People outside of Cleveland don't really get the full picture of how bad it really is. Even basic stuff like drafting- year after year, the Browns will draft players with their top picks that no other team would even consider. Even when the GM changes, same thing happens. It's like a Browns tradition. You could run the Browns draft by randomly picking a player's name out of a hat and they would be better off. In town here the Browns are actually really secretive with the media, barely giving any access, which adds a nice touch of absurdity to the shit show.
 
As bad as Cleveland has it overall, Philadelphia is having an epically TERRIBLE year overall so far. Hell, the Phillies have the highest win % of their teams this year, and they were the worst MLB team this past season by far.

This graphic is a couple days old, but gives you a general idea:

yfRh2hH.jpg


And it should be noted that all the 76ers wins for the calendar year are from LAST season. They're 0-18 right now.

Flyers are suffering from ongoing Goalie curse, which most notably cost them the 2010 Stanley Cup with the most anti-climatic winning goals at the hands of Chicago's Patrick Kane. Flyers have not resolved their goalie curse in over 20 years

Eagles............ fuck Chip Kelley. This guy ruined the Eagles
 
76's
Browns
Marlins
Rockies
Leafs

Seems like there are just a lot of horribly run sports franchises as of late but the Browns are pretty darn bad. A lot of franchises can say they have it bad but Browns bad? Ehhh.

Locally speaking, except for the Broncos, Denver sports are all special sorts of awful. Nuggets bad, Avalanche bad...Rockies...LOL.

76ers have been good in the past. Marlins have won two World Series since 1998. Rockies have been to the World Series in the past 10 years. Leafs and Browns are it. The Lions too.
 

PillarEN

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Carolina Hurricanes are a disaster for too long now with nothing good looking up.

Browns. Sure they suck and can't manage their star players (that one good WR was suspended for most of last year and the entirety of this year).

WTF are the Pistons up to? How do you suck for so long? But they have won many times so I'm not even sad about it.

When was the last time the Seattle Mariners were relevant?

EDIT: Goalie curse in Philly? Ha. It's no curse. You guys destroy goalies mentally. Poor guys. I wish for any goalie not to go there.
 

Jag

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76's
Browns
Marlins
Rockies
Leafs

Marlins have been really bad for the last few years, but at least they have 2 recent World Series wins. I think there are still 8 MLB teams that have never even won.

Rays, Rockies, Nats, Padres, etc. They may have more playoff trips, but I think winning the big one is what ultimately counts.
 

winjet81

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The Oilers deserve more attention simply because:

Imagine if, for 4 out of the last 6 years, the single best talent to join the sport that year was given to the same single team and they still managed to be fucking last out of 30. There are a lot of teams playing over a long season and yet there they are, dead last or close enough that they win the lotto. The other 2 years they picked 3rd and 7th overall respectively.

It sucks for the sport in general because they don't do anything with their talent and some of those guys are amazing. It's a black hole where talent goes to die. I feel bad for the players.

That's all relatively recent though, compared to other teams mentioned. Still impressive.


Those 5 Stanley cups in the 80s/90s ensure that the Oilers have 100 years of immunity from being declared a sucky franchise.

NO ONE is shedding a tear for the Oiler fanbase.
 
Daniel Snyder and the Washington Racial Slurs.

Ding ding ding.

The Snyder era has made me hang it all up. They literally cannot be good while he owns the team, and he'll never give it up as long as he lives. The management is consistently shit, the talent undeveloped and run into the ground then traded away after all their value is gone, and they always struggle to get to .500 (and most years they don't even do that).

Lets put it this way. Aside from the fluke that was RG3's rookie year, this is shaping up to be one of the skins' best seasons in years, and they're 5-6.
 

Windu

never heard about the cat, apparently
cubs have to be up there if you are talking championships. they haven't even been back to the world series since 1945 which is longer than the 2nd longest WS drought. Indians last won in 1948.

And if you look at baseball of the Active Franchises. The San Diego Padres and the Tampa Bay Rays have the lowest winning %. .464. Neither have a championship.

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http://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/
 

Heroman

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The falcons are the worst, every year they seem to be the real deal but some way or another they find a way to disappoint you.
 
Worse than the Bengals and Lions? That's a tall order.

Out of curiosity, why the Bengals? Aside from the lost decade from the 90's to the early 2000's which I'll be the first to admit was a shit show, they've been nowhere near the worst franchise.
 

DonasaurusRex

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Ehhhh. I would think it's a team you hardly ever even think about. Have the Bucks, Timberwolves, Raptors, ever done anything at all? I certainly can't think of anything. Vince Carrer I guess.

They may be the flashiest, most famous bad franchise though.

i guess but in basketball the majority of teams have done nothing with only a handful actually winning over the last 40 years

Lakers, Celtics, Heat, GS, Rockets, Pistons, Spurs, Sixers...uhh did the Bullets maybe get one?

If the Superbowl era of football I don't know if the Browns have even gone to their conference title game. I think every other team has
 

ColonelT

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Life-long Cleveland sports fan here. Was watching the game last night with my girlfriend, who is from Chicago and has never believed me when I've said the Cleveland Curse is real. When we tied up the game late in the 4th, I told her "Not only are we going to lose this game, but we are going to lose it in a spectacularly bizarre and heartbreaking fashion." I then rattled off several possible scenarios, including "blocked field goal ran back for a touchdown."

When it happened she was dumbfounded. I think she's finally a believer.
 
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