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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing
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Well what is it that you specialize in? Java? Rails? Node.js? Do you make web services w/ Spring? Fire a couple up and up and upload it. Make a quick Android app. Build an single page web site.
Just demonstrate that you know what you're doing.
Had 3 interviews, but 2 turned out to be for a different position than what I want. The third was offering way too low a salary (and I didn't get the job anyways).
So for now I'm still stuck at my current, soul sucking, boring job. Probably till the new year, I doubt many companies will be hiring in December.
So for now I'm still stuck at my current, soul sucking, boring job. Probably till the new year, I doubt many companies will be hiring in December.
Syphon Filter
Member
I applied to a job and got a response after a while. They said that they like my resume and cover letter and they want to interview me. There are several hoops i didn't expect however with the first one being prescreening questions. One questions I found odd is that they want me to attach a writing sample that I feel shows my personal writing at its best. This job is for web design so how come they want that for? I would think my cover letter would be it but would that be a good idea to resubmit that as the example or what? Other potential issues is that they require a laptop, I might be able to borrow one but I don't have one now. it's an unpaid internship and that includes no transportation pay. Do you guys feel that I should still go for it? Keep in mind I have been searching for jobs for about a year now and lack experience in this specific field. I need more experience so I feel this could be it but there are some obstacles in the way that I didn't expect.
entremet
Member
It's because writing quality has gone down drastically with recent grads. It's horrendous.
I don't know what it is. Over reliance on texting and internet communications, lack of rigor from writing instructors, poor writing habits from graduates.
They are also not paying you? Jeez.
I would take it for the experience, though. Better than nothing. But they're really asking much for no pay.
Got a couple questions for you guys:
1) Is it acceptable to email companies about possible positions in said company without any of them being advertised? In my case, I'm looking for an internship or entry level position but some companies that are in a relevant field may not have anything posted anywhere.
2) If it is acceptable, who should I email in the company? An HR rep?
1) Is it acceptable to email companies about possible positions in said company without any of them being advertised? In my case, I'm looking for an internship or entry level position but some companies that are in a relevant field may not have anything posted anywhere.
2) If it is acceptable, who should I email in the company? An HR rep?
The quality of writing among grads over the past few years has been increasingly shitty. Even worse for STEM grads who write like new highschoolers.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Nothing like talking to a company HR member (maybe even the head) last week and him telling you that "next week well schedule you talking with the team in x city, everything looks positive from this end"
Then you email him early this week as a thank you email that is really a reminder that you're still interested in the position and he doesn't have the god damn guts to respond to you back which I assume means the position is no longer available or they're no longer considering me.
Unlike others I'd rather you write me back even a fucking automated message to myself and the others saying we're no longer being considered for the position this false hope bullshit is too much.
Then you email him early this week as a thank you email that is really a reminder that you're still interested in the position and he doesn't have the god damn guts to respond to you back which I assume means the position is no longer available or they're no longer considering me.
Unlike others I'd rather you write me back even a fucking automated message to myself and the others saying we're no longer being considered for the position this false hope bullshit is too much.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
It's halfway through Tuesday..? They said they'd reach out to you this week. There is plenty of this week left.
Dont understand why people expect instant responses either. I don't respond to certain emails or invites for days for various reasons. When someone needs to contact you, they will.
Dont understand why people expect instant responses either. I don't respond to certain emails or invites for days for various reasons. When someone needs to contact you, they will.
opticalmace
Member
That feeling when you find a typo on your CV.
teruterubozu
Member
One-two weeks is nothing in the hiring process (even if they say "next week" which is usually BS, especially this time of the year). Don't give up so easily.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Maybe I overreacted but Jesus I just want get back to work. Starting in the oil industry in this environment fresh out of college was a mistake. Fortunately I got laid off before January which is when other companies start looking. I feel that if by early 2016 I don't think anything is moving forward I'm doing plan b and going for a masters.
I have seen writing product descriptions, editing or even creating written web content/articles under the umbrella of web design.
Just wanna vent cause I feel stupid, also to complain.
Took a job offer at a Walmart and drew up the papers today. I guess I got lucky cause I told the person hiring me I already filled out the same shit for another store, so apparently they don't allow people to work at two different stores. Which is umm, okay, well, I don't know why not if the person is willing. Especially when they don't make it clear I can't and I don't know if anyone understands people should just be casting as wide as a net and gobbling up whatever comes up sometimes. Now I have to go withdraw a previous job offer, but I'm guess I got lucky and didn't slip through accidentally, get 'caught' and then probably doubly sacked at both ends.
Also just the entire interview/hiring process makes me not want to work at a Walmart. Everything is just forms and standardized questions they ask everyone, everyone working more or less I feel like just follows the script set out by corporate probably. Understandably but it's really stupid. Also I had a group interview at a Walmart and someone who had his hoodie hood up the entire time got called back to get a job offer, so :lol?
I had another interview for a better position at a pharmacy retail store and goddamn the difference was night and day. I had an actual interview where an actual person looked at and asked questions based off my resume and it was more of a discussion than form filling in audio format. God I hope they call me back soon because I know I fucking crushed that interview and the guy loved me. It's still a part-time position but it's a supervisory position and I was told advancement from there is quick if that's what you're looking for. I don't mind doing grunt work at a retail store but damn if Walmart literally makes you feel like a number that doesn't matter.
Took a job offer at a Walmart and drew up the papers today. I guess I got lucky cause I told the person hiring me I already filled out the same shit for another store, so apparently they don't allow people to work at two different stores. Which is umm, okay, well, I don't know why not if the person is willing. Especially when they don't make it clear I can't and I don't know if anyone understands people should just be casting as wide as a net and gobbling up whatever comes up sometimes. Now I have to go withdraw a previous job offer, but I'm guess I got lucky and didn't slip through accidentally, get 'caught' and then probably doubly sacked at both ends.
Also just the entire interview/hiring process makes me not want to work at a Walmart. Everything is just forms and standardized questions they ask everyone, everyone working more or less I feel like just follows the script set out by corporate probably. Understandably but it's really stupid. Also I had a group interview at a Walmart and someone who had his hoodie hood up the entire time got called back to get a job offer, so :lol?
I had another interview for a better position at a pharmacy retail store and goddamn the difference was night and day. I had an actual interview where an actual person looked at and asked questions based off my resume and it was more of a discussion than form filling in audio format. God I hope they call me back soon because I know I fucking crushed that interview and the guy loved me. It's still a part-time position but it's a supervisory position and I was told advancement from there is quick if that's what you're looking for. I don't mind doing grunt work at a retail store but damn if Walmart literally makes you feel like a number that doesn't matter.
I'm an expert
Formerly worldrevolution. The only reason I am nice to anyone else is to avoid being banned.
To be fair, WalMart doesn't try to sell you a workplace where you're not a number. Places like Costco do, but the selection process is more rigorous. You're going to WalMart most likely because you know they'll take anyone and do it quickly. Otherwise, you could keep trying to get a job at other places instead.
The turnover rate in retail (especially big box stores like Wal-Mart during the holidays) is so high, you're going to be treated like that until you've been at the store for a while. They'll take pretty much anyone that doesn't have a criminal record and is halfway intelligent enough to BS the interview and psych test.
When I was a manager at Target, it was common for people to show up for the orientation and nothing else, or else flake out and leave during their first shift; I worked in various stores warehouses and apparently people didn't understand that yes, working in a warehouse is physically strenuous and no, you can't take breaks whenever you want, especially in the middle of unloading a truck.
That being said, the stories I heard from former Wal-Mart employees were pretty bad in how they treated their employees. As bad as most retail jobs are, those are bottom of the barrel. They probably don't want you working at two stores because they want to keep your hours down so you're not considered a full time employee.
When I was a manager at Target, it was common for people to show up for the orientation and nothing else, or else flake out and leave during their first shift; I worked in various stores warehouses and apparently people didn't understand that yes, working in a warehouse is physically strenuous and no, you can't take breaks whenever you want, especially in the middle of unloading a truck.
That being said, the stories I heard from former Wal-Mart employees were pretty bad in how they treated their employees. As bad as most retail jobs are, those are bottom of the barrel. They probably don't want you working at two stores because they want to keep your hours down so you're not considered a full time employee.
Syphon Filter
Member
Take what you can get at least for now. Is your plan to stay in retail and move up in management or are you planning to use the job as a temp until you get "what you really want"?
That1BlackGuy
Member
Freelance work has been brutal the second half of this year so it looks like it's back to Labor for me until Spring when my regulars come back from vacation. I'm" hoping this temp agency can hook me up with something that's at least $9/hr and for once not a 10-12 hour shift (I have no clue how people's bodies don't break working that long 5 days a week, my body usually taps out at 6 hours). Hoping for a 7-3 because 2nd shifts suck haha. Morning/Day work seem to go by so much faster. I am also going to go with a second staffing agency as they seem to offer office related work.
Also just throwing this out there, If you're good at researching and can write fast, go check out Blogmutt.com. You can make some good money on that site. $8.00 for 250 words starting off and you can do as many posts as you want. After a number of approved articles (increasing your level) I believe you unlock higher paying gigs in addition to the regular work. I know you can sign up in US, not sure about UK folks though. It's a great way to get some writing experience under your belt while getting paid if you don't want to make Blogmutt a permanent deal.
Everyone keep your head up.
Also just throwing this out there, If you're good at researching and can write fast, go check out Blogmutt.com. You can make some good money on that site. $8.00 for 250 words starting off and you can do as many posts as you want. After a number of approved articles (increasing your level) I believe you unlock higher paying gigs in addition to the regular work. I know you can sign up in US, not sure about UK folks though. It's a great way to get some writing experience under your belt while getting paid if you don't want to make Blogmutt a permanent deal.
Everyone keep your head up.
I'm just doing this while I work on other career goals like studying for my real estate license and/or planning to actually work in LA as a writer (in Canada, so this might take longer than just simply moving and trying my luck there if I lived Stateside). Those are longer term career goals for me.
Retail I'm just comfortable with but I haven't been working for the past year and change, so I'll take what I can get, though it will probably never be in this track although apparently actual management does pay fairly well so maybe, but not really something I think I'd do long term even though I definitely have the skill set and everyone I've interviewed with in retail is wholly impressed with me (and maybe confused as to why I'm only applying for grunt work). I just don't think it's entirely fulfilling vs. my actual career goals.
I'd drop the Walmart jobs like a hot rock if their scheduling sucks or they're dicks about it because I'd rather take the supervisor job at the pharmacy chain (Shoppers Drug Mart), especially since it sounds like hours would be easy to come by for me anyway for that position and advancement seems relatively decent/easy/fast/however you want to cut it.
I don't think I mind juggling two part-times for the moment but dropping grunt work for something with better responsibilities would be a no-brainer to me if I couldn't make it work.
And I haven't been called back to that other position so I just decided to tell Walmart in my job offer I'm pretty much open availability but whatever. Again I'll take what I can get. I can bail out during probation with almost no strings attached if push comes to shove.
Lastly to vent again I wish I knew applying for retail wasn't this hard because I kinda got anxious a lot about applying over the past year that I sorta psyched myself out of it and that caused me to really have a huge gap in my employment record.
Not sure how Wal-Mart works, but at Target unless you had a business degree of some kind, it was impossible to move past middle management (department manager). That was a big reason I left. I had 22 year old kids as my managers literally reading me stuff out of handbooks as to how things should be run and numbers we should be reaching. None of those handbooks had scenarios for example like the Muslim workers who would stop everything (including leaving equipment running) so they could pray 5 times a shift, having to deal with multiple ethnic groups who didn't want to work with each other, people that would come in drunk/high, etc.
Plus they will expect you to work insane hours. Granted, the OT was nice, but it gets real old working 12 hour shifts 7-8 days in a row.
Admiral Woofington
Member
We've all been there, or are currently there. It's not the best season to be looking for jobs as is. Early 2016 is probably a better bet. I wish more companies would start interviewing people now and getting the job offers in 2015 for a position that could start early 2016.
BannedEpisode
Member
They don't have the budget to even begin the process this time of year save emergency situations.
Most often they can't even bring the idea to begin the process until the money is divided out for it and available.
Agreed - I'm fairly confident there will be a ton of postings in January, but I'd rather there be a ton of postings now so I could start in January.
I know it sucks but don't stress it. I had a typo on my resume for a big 4 accounting company and they invited me to an interview anyway.
Heard back from a company today for a position I applied to back in August.
The pay isn't that good, the job is about a 4 hour drive away but I feel like I don't have much of a right to be picky at this point after being unemployed for 5 months... Idk. Should just get whatever I can for now I guess?
The pay isn't that good, the job is about a 4 hour drive away but I feel like I don't have much of a right to be picky at this point after being unemployed for 5 months... Idk. Should just get whatever I can for now I guess?
I'm working towards HR to change some of these silly policies and system tracking software that searches on keywords on resumes rather than interviewing them and determining yourself whether they are a good fit for the company or not. Sure it takes longer but so much talent i guarantee you is discarded with this new technology in HR.
Sending in a resume and CV isn't enough anymore, you have to call them sometimes and ask specifically what keywords they prefer, or ask employees at that company for a "Cheat Sheet" that helps you get into the system. As it stands the system is ridiculous.
Also don't want to scare anyone that makes typos on resumes and CV, but employers usually look at that and immediately disqualify you from the position, at least in my HR experience. It's a harsh world.
Sending in a resume and CV isn't enough anymore, you have to call them sometimes and ask specifically what keywords they prefer, or ask employees at that company for a "Cheat Sheet" that helps you get into the system. As it stands the system is ridiculous.
Also don't want to scare anyone that makes typos on resumes and CV, but employers usually look at that and immediately disqualify you from the position, at least in my HR experience. It's a harsh world.
Companies get hundreds of applications for every open position. I totally understand where they'd eliminate candidates based on typos.
teruterubozu
Member
Yup, it's horrible. I sincerely believe the "keyword" HR filtering process has fucked up the employment process in this country in the last decade. It's no longer about individual strengths, but fitting into a plastic mold.
Syphon Filter
Member
It's been abut three weeks since a certain interview and I called to day to get an update. They said that they are still interviewing and will let me know on Friday, should I consider that bad news?
Regarding that information, I would take it with a grain of salt because in HR it can honestly go both ways. You showing interest still in the job is good but without much insight into their HR process I honestly can't say if they simply have a deadline they must meet first to interview candidates or not.
My advice is to while doing your accounting degree, network NOW. The people you know is very important and the connections you make can help you tremendously while receiving your degree. Look for a mentor or go to networking events. You have to let yourself be more out there and available so certain people/employers have a reference on someone who is getting an accounting degree that they can pass on. The job market is tough right now but it's doable with enough effort. Don't give up!
You're crazy. I have an MBA and wish I had an accounting degree. What's frustrating you about getting it? My campus always had an Accounting Night where firms were ready to hire on the spot.
Accounting job market is really good atm. Seeing that you are 2 years away from graduating you have plenty of time to attend open house days and get an internship in there.
I had a shitty resume (no related work experience and took more time to graduate) and still managed to land a job after searching for a while. Just remember there is more to accountancy than the big 4.
I highly recommend creating LinkedIn account (if you don't have one) there's a decent chance you will have plenty of classmates joining the Big 4 at some point and you probably already know some people working at an accounting firm. I feel that accountancy is one of those sectors where Linkedin is more important.
JetForceGemini
Banned
Anybody work at tmobile or sprint in chicago?
Camp1nCarl
Member
Have a friend that was hired as a TSA agent, I just remember hearing likewise that the process was quite long. Not planning on using the A+ cert though?
Kind of in a similar predicament: I have a CompTIA Security+ cert, but with a B.S. in Cellular & Molecular Biology I don't think any companies would give me the time of day over someone with a IT or CS degree, so I've been mostly looking at Research jobs (but to no avail yet).
Liberty4all
Banned
Between March and August I sent out over 1000 resumes in Toronto. All targeted, majority in my field. I only got 2 interviews and didn't land either job. Was so discouraged thinking something must be wrong with me and finally as my Employment Insurance benefits were running out I decided I would have to go national. Applied in multiple Canadian cities including settlements in the Arctic I was so desperate.
Within 48 hours I had 4 phone interviews, mostly in Alberta and BC. 2 weeks later I landed a 6 month contract job in Vancouver which I immediately moved to. Had to leave my wife behind in Toronto, haven't seen her since sept 20th aside from FaceTime. With that said it was an ok paying job, and in my field.
Fast forward 2 months and I get an email from a government job waaaay up in northern Alberta I'd applied for months before. Turned it down as it was in a tiny town (5000 people) in the far north and I guess I hadn't really thought it through. Got me thinking though so I applied for the same job in a much better location (Red Deer, Alberta). Still small town of 100,000 but way more infrastructure seemed like it would be a good place for a family.
Still I didn't hold much hope. I had applied for a similar job in Toronto in 2013. 3600 people applied and 1400 people were interviewed ... For 1 position. Government jobs in Canada are like gold. DOUBLE salary doing the same work I do now, defined benefit pension plan, full medical, dental, union, two raises a year, etc ....
I went onto Reddit and made a post in the Red Deer community asking people if it was possible to work there without a car, multiple people said yes ... I had mentioned the government building I'd be working in although not saying what the job was. One guy PM'ed me saying he works in that building and we got chatting .... Ok here's the holy fuck part. It was HIS job he had just vacated I had just applied for. Like wtf???? What are the odds of that? He prepped me for the interview.
It just so happens my landlord here in Vancouver had just moved from Red Deer ... And has a rental there too!!
Interview day came. Panel interview over the phone. I felt I did well but they were only hiring a couple perm the rest temps. I guess sometimes something is meant to be it sure felt that way.
I got the perm job and start in January.
Just want to say to everyone don't give up. Sometimes it may take awhile but your ship comes in. Don't be afraid to move if you have to. Open yourself up to opportunities across your country. I would have never dreamed in a million years I'd be living in Vancouver BC and soon Red Deer Alberta, but here I am ... And a million times better for it. Labour markets are local, you never know when your skills may be in big demand somewhere else.
Within 48 hours I had 4 phone interviews, mostly in Alberta and BC. 2 weeks later I landed a 6 month contract job in Vancouver which I immediately moved to. Had to leave my wife behind in Toronto, haven't seen her since sept 20th aside from FaceTime. With that said it was an ok paying job, and in my field.
Fast forward 2 months and I get an email from a government job waaaay up in northern Alberta I'd applied for months before. Turned it down as it was in a tiny town (5000 people) in the far north and I guess I hadn't really thought it through. Got me thinking though so I applied for the same job in a much better location (Red Deer, Alberta). Still small town of 100,000 but way more infrastructure seemed like it would be a good place for a family.
Still I didn't hold much hope. I had applied for a similar job in Toronto in 2013. 3600 people applied and 1400 people were interviewed ... For 1 position. Government jobs in Canada are like gold. DOUBLE salary doing the same work I do now, defined benefit pension plan, full medical, dental, union, two raises a year, etc ....
I went onto Reddit and made a post in the Red Deer community asking people if it was possible to work there without a car, multiple people said yes ... I had mentioned the government building I'd be working in although not saying what the job was. One guy PM'ed me saying he works in that building and we got chatting .... Ok here's the holy fuck part. It was HIS job he had just vacated I had just applied for. Like wtf???? What are the odds of that? He prepped me for the interview.
It just so happens my landlord here in Vancouver had just moved from Red Deer ... And has a rental there too!!
Interview day came. Panel interview over the phone. I felt I did well but they were only hiring a couple perm the rest temps. I guess sometimes something is meant to be it sure felt that way.
I got the perm job and start in January.
Just want to say to everyone don't give up. Sometimes it may take awhile but your ship comes in. Don't be afraid to move if you have to. Open yourself up to opportunities across your country. I would have never dreamed in a million years I'd be living in Vancouver BC and soon Red Deer Alberta, but here I am ... And a million times better for it. Labour markets are local, you never know when your skills may be in big demand somewhere else.
anonymous_abc
Member
Single round interview over the phone straight to job offer? Wow. Nicely done. Shows how important networking really can be - I realise it wasn't deliberate but you did reach out to the local community which clearly made a difference.
Also, as weird as it may be, you comment about posting 1000 resumes but on,y getting a couple of interviews is reassuring to me. I've only applied for maybe 50 roles so far, and only had one interview. It had me second guessing my CV even though I think it's pretty good and I've had friends and colleagues look it over. But I guess it's just a numbers game.
One thing I do need to sort out is ramping up how many applications I put in. Online job searches here in the UK often bring up hundreds of results, and often they are ambiguous job descriptions, and you don't always know the company because they'll be posted via an agency. Gets to the the you're applying for the same job twice.
Also, as weird as it may be, you comment about posting 1000 resumes but on,y getting a couple of interviews is reassuring to me. I've only applied for maybe 50 roles so far, and only had one interview. It had me second guessing my CV even though I think it's pretty good and I've had friends and colleagues look it over. But I guess it's just a numbers game.
One thing I do need to sort out is ramping up how many applications I put in. Online job searches here in the UK often bring up hundreds of results, and often they are ambiguous job descriptions, and you don't always know the company because they'll be posted via an agency. Gets to the the you're applying for the same job twice.
Liberty4all
Banned
The irony of my previous unemployment is that I'm an Employment Counsellor/Case Manager by trade. But yeah it's a numbers game if you are in a competitive labour market. And even then sometimes that's not enough and you may need to consider moving. Which is another lesson I learned ... If you've been working in the "big city" for years, that can pay HUGE dividends when applying into a smaller labour market.
Less competition and less people overall with the specific skillset needed. I suppose desirability of the locale plays into that too ... Smaller cities/towns have a more difficult time importing skilled labour.
Don't give up. I don't know the stats for UK/Europe but in Canada the average job search to getting an offer takes 7 months (assuming a professional job).
Admiral Woofington
Member
Remember how I was freaking out yesterday? They just sent me the email to set up the skype interview today haha.
Gotta give them three time frames, so knowing what everyone has told me about interviewing I'm choosing morning time frames while the people aren't tired of work/interviewing.
Wish me luck guys. I'm gonna be studying up on my behavioral questions. I really hope this is it, the benefits they've listed sound great and the chance of bonus increase based on performance. I need that.
Gotta interview my ass off. If I can get an offer for early 2016 that'd be the best option since it means I could cancel out my application for the healthcare.gov healthcare.
Gotta give them three time frames, so knowing what everyone has told me about interviewing I'm choosing morning time frames while the people aren't tired of work/interviewing.
Wish me luck guys. I'm gonna be studying up on my behavioral questions. I really hope this is it, the benefits they've listed sound great and the chance of bonus increase based on performance. I need that.
Gotta interview my ass off. If I can get an offer for early 2016 that'd be the best option since it means I could cancel out my application for the healthcare.gov healthcare.
mhayes86
Member
If it's a cleared job, then yeah, the process can take a while and can open a lot of doors, especially if it's tech related. The process can take several months to more than a year depending on clearance level, your history, and how accurate you were with your background information. If you get the job, prepare for a lot of paperwork, but continue looking for jobs in the meantime since you may not have any idea when you will be ready to start.
Syphon Filter
Member
Looks like I was chosen for another interview with the same company from a weeks weeks ago. This time the interview is with the CEO, I have never been in this situation. Any advice what to expect?
opticalmace
Member
Another job app submitted today, here's hoping.
The Sum of Zero
Member
Haven't posted here much but I thought I'd post about my experience today.
Had an interview at a nearby plant that manufactures furniture. Talking with the HR lady went well, she said "Let me talk to my supervisor, show you through the plant, then we'll talk.". So I accompanied a supervisor into the plant, observed the work area, asked questions, ect. I thought it was going well but then after I'm led back to the lobby the HR lady comes back and says my application is being put on hold because there aren't any openings right now and that they'd keep me in mind when they get additional positions. They are trying to get another line set up, so she called this a "preliminary interview."
I don't think I fucked up at all, but she could have told me that from the beginning. I thought I had it then to be told that. And my phone gets cut off the 23rd so I don't have time to wait. Guess I'll work fast food for the first time (if it matters I'm 26).
Sorry to vent but I needed to get that off my chest.
Had an interview at a nearby plant that manufactures furniture. Talking with the HR lady went well, she said "Let me talk to my supervisor, show you through the plant, then we'll talk.". So I accompanied a supervisor into the plant, observed the work area, asked questions, ect. I thought it was going well but then after I'm led back to the lobby the HR lady comes back and says my application is being put on hold because there aren't any openings right now and that they'd keep me in mind when they get additional positions. They are trying to get another line set up, so she called this a "preliminary interview."
I don't think I fucked up at all, but she could have told me that from the beginning. I thought I had it then to be told that. And my phone gets cut off the 23rd so I don't have time to wait. Guess I'll work fast food for the first time (if it matters I'm 26).
Sorry to vent but I needed to get that off my chest.
Admiral Woofington
Member
is it a very small company? just actual as you'd do with another interview.
At this point though, read about the company.