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Applying for jobs is exhausting and soul-crushing
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Vicetrailia
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Just gotta be a little more disciplined on your time management. Trust, you can do it.
But how does the art gallery internship help your chosen profession?
Haha I started out college doing art, and I did enough that if I pushed for two extra classes I could actually get a studio art minor. I'm also trying to complete a minor in science education. I.. would like to get into art education, ideally, and the internship in the art museum is within the education department so I thought it could sort of pave the way into that. I also think informal (not classroom) education is an interesting field that I'd like to get more experience in/ have a better feel for.
Camp1nCarl
Member
If you think you can handle the task of time management I would personally recommend it. Orgo 2 and Genetics are both manageable courses if you really stay on top of them and dedicate the proper time studying for them. It might be a tough semester, but I think it might be a good opportunity for personal growth by taking a large workload now as well and seeing how you manage. Conversely, if you think you have struggled in the past and this might be detrimental to your studies and all of your other work, I would advise against and just focus on your studies right now. I don't know if 14 credits is considered a lot at your college, but our average was about 15 credits and that was very manageable (18-20 was where it got pretty crazy).
Yeah, 18 is that point here too. 12 is full time, most people I know do about 12/13. 14/15 is considered a rather loaded schedule, but 17/18 is where people don't joke around. Never met anyone doing more than 18, that's ridiculous. Upperclassmen really scared me when I was taking about taking the two classes together. This past semester was really rough, so I'm just a little worried.
But I'm definitely leaning more towards accepting it now, especially since I feel it's more important in the long term. I still have a week to decide- I just didn't think they'd accept me so I was like "Uh" lol. Thanks for the input!
Advocatus Diaboli
Member
Dream job hired someone else. No interview. The guy who said he'd help me out by making a phone call either didn't do that, or else it didn't even matter.
Applied to a shitty job that pays very little this afternoon in a field that I don't care about, but which I am qualified for.
Also applied for 3-year orders with the military, even though the guy who said he'd make that phone call also said he'd write me a letter of recommendation (but didn't yet), because applications were "encouraged" by this Monday. This isn't something I want to do, but I don't really have any other choice, and it's not even probable that they'll take me.
Applied to a shitty job that pays very little this afternoon in a field that I don't care about, but which I am qualified for.
Also applied for 3-year orders with the military, even though the guy who said he'd make that phone call also said he'd write me a letter of recommendation (but didn't yet), because applications were "encouraged" by this Monday. This isn't something I want to do, but I don't really have any other choice, and it's not even probable that they'll take me.
Camp1nCarl
Member
No problem. Funny enough I actually took both of those courses the same semester as well, along with a few other classes to get up to 17 credits that semester. Like I said, just manage your time and you can definitely tackle both and your internship. It may stink while your doing it, but I don't think you'll regret your choice. Either way best of luck.
HomerSimpson-Man
Member
I wish my story ended up similar to yours. I got the email today. I didn't get the help desk job again, got passed over. *sighs*
I guess I'm done with trying with that company. I really wanted to get it as it was recommended by a old co-worker of mine that wanted me to join him.
I'm hoping they at least hired someone competent this time as my old co-worker really felt he got screwed over with the previous hire; the previous hire apparently does jack shit and it's pissing him off.
BigMastadon
Member
Temp agency called me about a position I interviewed for five months ago that opened up again with a hospital (scheduling). They took my references and have already called them.
Hoping it's a good sign as being unemployed since May has sucked. Depression and just overall lack of self worth has taken over.
Fingers crossed. I know companies don't just call references for no reason.
Hoping it's a good sign as being unemployed since May has sucked. Depression and just overall lack of self worth has taken over.
Fingers crossed. I know companies don't just call references for no reason.
Admiral Woofington
Member
That's strange
I was laid off and supposed to only be kept on the payroll until end of october. Got a payroll deposit yesterday. Somebody fucked up lol. As far as I know I don't have to say shit. It's not honest but shit, any amount of money as I search for jobs count. And I don't really owe the company that kicked me out simply on last in first out bullshit.
I was laid off and supposed to only be kept on the payroll until end of october. Got a payroll deposit yesterday. Somebody fucked up lol. As far as I know I don't have to say shit. It's not honest but shit, any amount of money as I search for jobs count. And I don't really owe the company that kicked me out simply on last in first out bullshit.
I'm getting really tired of companies asking for a Github link. The fact that I don't really have anything on there to show is one thing, I just don't have any ideas for what to create that are actually reasonable.
The worst part is when I offer school projects or something like that, those don't count according to them. What also doesn't account is the previous jobs I have had, you know the ones where I can't take the source code with me. So unless I'm working for free forever, I don't have anything that does "count" in their book.
The worst part is when I offer school projects or something like that, those don't count according to them. What also doesn't account is the previous jobs I have had, you know the ones where I can't take the source code with me. So unless I'm working for free forever, I don't have anything that does "count" in their book.
I've got an interview in 2 weeks. Gotta give a presentation on my research, and I guess there'll be a bunch of questions to go along with it. Absolutely shitting myself.
Questions like "where will you be in X years" or "what are you goals" worry me because I have literally no idea.
Questions like "where will you be in X years" or "what are you goals" worry me because I have literally no idea.
For a non-profit dedicated to helping the disenfranchised, perhaps.
For a for-profit tech company? Gtfo.
Do you ever tell interviewers about other offers you have?
Not 100% but I am pretty sure I'm close to getting an offer from a decent, but not great job. They already said they really like me, they are just sending some details about a potential opening in January before things are decided for sure.
Thing is, I have the chance to interview this week for something that's in a nicer area, better pay, and the job content sounds more interesting. It also starts in January.
Since I'm overseas, there are also visa issues to deal with. If I don't find a job soon, I might lose my current working visa. We're talking about within a few weeks to a month's time.
Do I tell Job B about my current status with Job A, especially considering I need a job decided very soon? I don't wanna be a dick and pressure them to speed up their process, but I kinda feel these are legit things that need to be brought up sometime during the interview.
Not 100% but I am pretty sure I'm close to getting an offer from a decent, but not great job. They already said they really like me, they are just sending some details about a potential opening in January before things are decided for sure.
Thing is, I have the chance to interview this week for something that's in a nicer area, better pay, and the job content sounds more interesting. It also starts in January.
Since I'm overseas, there are also visa issues to deal with. If I don't find a job soon, I might lose my current working visa. We're talking about within a few weeks to a month's time.
Do I tell Job B about my current status with Job A, especially considering I need a job decided very soon? I don't wanna be a dick and pressure them to speed up their process, but I kinda feel these are legit things that need to be brought up sometime during the interview.
TarpitCarnivore
Member
Was laid off almost a month ago and have applied to 15ish jobs since. I've gotten 3 rejections, but I've been interviewing with one for 3-4 weeks now.
Had a call
Follow up call about my salary requirements
Assessment test
Assessment test follow up
On-site interview where I met with 5 people over 4 hours
Have another call today
Upside: same industry, really great experience
Downside: slightly more annoying commute, likely taking a 30-40% (base) pay cut, no more free lunches
Hoping to not have to file for unemployment as I don't want to deal with out of state stuff (live in NJ and commute to NY). Having to go in periodically just to say "yes I applied for a job" is not something I want to deal with.
I would disclose the work visa up front, but maybe do it in a tactful way. IE "What is your companies policy for work visas" or something in that nature. Not just "I need a job ASAP because of my work visa." It also doesn't hurt to explain you're fielding offers from other companies as it can speed things up in either direction. They either move quicker to get your or move quicker to pass on you.
Had a call
Follow up call about my salary requirements
Assessment test
Assessment test follow up
On-site interview where I met with 5 people over 4 hours
Have another call today
Upside: same industry, really great experience
Downside: slightly more annoying commute, likely taking a 30-40% (base) pay cut, no more free lunches
Hoping to not have to file for unemployment as I don't want to deal with out of state stuff (live in NJ and commute to NY). Having to go in periodically just to say "yes I applied for a job" is not something I want to deal with.
I would disclose the work visa up front, but maybe do it in a tactful way. IE "What is your companies policy for work visas" or something in that nature. Not just "I need a job ASAP because of my work visa." It also doesn't hurt to explain you're fielding offers from other companies as it can speed things up in either direction. They either move quicker to get your or move quicker to pass on you.
I'm in an awkward situation and I'd like some advice:
Almost two months ago I applied at Company #1, but eventually they tell me there's no positions available and that they will keep me in mind for the future. I assume it's standard for them to say that and I figure I'm actually off the table.
So I move on and applied to Company #2 about eleven days ago. Interview goes well and I'm scheduled for orientation the day after tomorrow. But today, Company #1 called and wants me to call them back to set up an interview! I really want to work at #1 instead of #2, but since I'm already scheduled for orientation I feel obligated to #2. These are part-time jobs, so ideally I would even like to work at both of them, but I don't even know my schedule yet for #2 and #1 isn't a sure thing.
Should I go ahead and schedule an interview with #1 and just explain my situation hoping they could still use me? What would you do?
Almost two months ago I applied at Company #1, but eventually they tell me there's no positions available and that they will keep me in mind for the future. I assume it's standard for them to say that and I figure I'm actually off the table.
So I move on and applied to Company #2 about eleven days ago. Interview goes well and I'm scheduled for orientation the day after tomorrow. But today, Company #1 called and wants me to call them back to set up an interview! I really want to work at #1 instead of #2, but since I'm already scheduled for orientation I feel obligated to #2. These are part-time jobs, so ideally I would even like to work at both of them, but I don't even know my schedule yet for #2 and #1 isn't a sure thing.
Should I go ahead and schedule an interview with #1 and just explain my situation hoping they could still use me? What would you do?
Company #1 is your first choice, so that's your priority. Don't tell either company anything until you land both jobs.. If you get job with company #1, either company #2 will play ball and let you work both jobs....or it won't and you'll quit.
Well, the good news is I got offered a job today.
The not-so-great news is I'll be getting less than half of what I was on for my previous job, which would be fine except it's in Canberra, which, while not as hella expensive as Sydney rent wise, is still at a level which prices me out of living on my own. Which means I'm going to have to enter the world of shared housing - something I've never done before (although I probably should have.)
At least I'm back in the game, I guess.
The not-so-great news is I'll be getting less than half of what I was on for my previous job, which would be fine except it's in Canberra, which, while not as hella expensive as Sydney rent wise, is still at a level which prices me out of living on my own. Which means I'm going to have to enter the world of shared housing - something I've never done before (although I probably should have.)
At least I'm back in the game, I guess.
Mr Solo Dolo
Member
I'm in a similar situation.
Went for an interview last Thursday, was asked what my previous salary was and told they wouldn't match that. I was asked would that be a problem and I said no but would hope they'd offer something that matches my experience.
Received an offer this morning, with 7 years experience in the industry, they still feel I should be paid minimum wage.
Obviously I don't want to turn the job down when I need it but I don't feel it's fair I should be paid so little and have nothing left over after I've paid my bills
Went for an interview last Thursday, was asked what my previous salary was and told they wouldn't match that. I was asked would that be a problem and I said no but would hope they'd offer something that matches my experience.
Received an offer this morning, with 7 years experience in the industry, they still feel I should be paid minimum wage.
Obviously I don't want to turn the job down when I need it but I don't feel it's fair I should be paid so little and have nothing left over after I've paid my bills
TheSpoiler
Member
Ah fuck. Had the easiest interviews leading up to a final with the CEO on Monday, and I honestly don't know how I did. At first, it was general questions like "tell me about yourself", and then it got into "do you have anyone at your old jobs that I could call for a reference"? I didn't leave on awful terms, but I certainly wouldn't want them to be called because they were pretty petty there.
After that, it started going into my commute, and then she said "that's everything I need".
The strange thing is, I killed it in the other interviews, so I have no idea why I had this interview. Before, I was pretty confident, but now I have no clue.
After that, it started going into my commute, and then she said "that's everything I need".
The strange thing is, I killed it in the other interviews, so I have no idea why I had this interview. Before, I was pretty confident, but now I have no clue.
Congratulations, but you shouldn't work for free. Internships are okay, but only if you receive high school or college credit.
HarryHengst
Member
Had to take a personality test for a job interview. 600 questions, got a full report at the end. Shame the report is pretty much garbage. If you arent an extravert you are basically worthless, and for a bunch of personality traits (how content are you, how do you perform) they gave 4 possible options each, but for each trait three out of four possible options are described in really negative terms, and the fourth one is a description of how a perfect employee would be and act.
Got a second interview thursday to talk about the results of the test so yeah, should be fun.
Got a second interview thursday to talk about the results of the test so yeah, should be fun.
welcome to the working world :/
Gonna just vent here a little...
I'm starting to think my cover letters must suck or something since I haven't been getting any responses to the jobs I've applied for. I've done a lot of great internships paid and unpaid that were at Museums, non-profits, and most recently an international art fair, but it seems like I don't meet the requirements for an entry level job. I'm trying to land something in either Communications or Development (fundraising, individual-giving).
I have a bachelors in Art History and Museum Professions (just graduated last May) and I was also able to get an associates in Advertising and Marketing Communications from the coursework that I've done. I want to be an Arts Administrator, and I recently moved from NYC to Chicago where the job pool for this career is a lot smaller :/ I would love to get my masters but I REALLY don't want to be in debt for school (my current debt is only 5k thankfully since I went to school in-state).
So like I said it's either my cover letters suck, my experience probably isn't that great, or maybe Chicago isn't a great city for what I want to do. I'm even applying to more internships with no luck, and I recently learned that the places I'm applying for favor students who go to art schools in Chicago
I'm starting to think my cover letters must suck or something since I haven't been getting any responses to the jobs I've applied for. I've done a lot of great internships paid and unpaid that were at Museums, non-profits, and most recently an international art fair, but it seems like I don't meet the requirements for an entry level job. I'm trying to land something in either Communications or Development (fundraising, individual-giving).
I have a bachelors in Art History and Museum Professions (just graduated last May) and I was also able to get an associates in Advertising and Marketing Communications from the coursework that I've done. I want to be an Arts Administrator, and I recently moved from NYC to Chicago where the job pool for this career is a lot smaller :/ I would love to get my masters but I REALLY don't want to be in debt for school (my current debt is only 5k thankfully since I went to school in-state).
So like I said it's either my cover letters suck, my experience probably isn't that great, or maybe Chicago isn't a great city for what I want to do. I'm even applying to more internships with no luck, and I recently learned that the places I'm applying for favor students who go to art schools in Chicago
NobleXenon
Member
Anyone here having to nerf their resume? I was basically told that the job I was applying for is entry level and I should apply elsewhere in the company (most likely a management position).
I'll take an easy "entry level job" that'll only be a small pay cut to 16 an hour but is ultimately low stress.
I didn't say that but was thinking it in my head.
I'll take an easy "entry level job" that'll only be a small pay cut to 16 an hour but is ultimately low stress.
I didn't say that but was thinking it in my head.
Trail Guide
Member
I'm really feeling the thread title this week. I'll be graduating in just a few weeks and man I am sick of job hunting. I went to a job fair in October and despite getting several interviews I've been turned down from all of them.
So now I've been scouring my college job board, and Glassdoor applying for jobs these past few days and I really do feel exhausted.
So now I've been scouring my college job board, and Glassdoor applying for jobs these past few days and I really do feel exhausted.
Admiral Woofington
Member
Gettin a couple of more interested parties. Next week I have skype interview with the team, and I got another company saying they're pushing my resume to the hiring manager.
Crossing fingers. My lease ends on February so I REALLY hope I can find a job before then to know if I have to stay here or not.
Crossing fingers. My lease ends on February so I REALLY hope I can find a job before then to know if I have to stay here or not.
Yeah, finding jobs is rough stuff, man. Finally found something in this smallish town of mine where I could apply my college education, and I had some experience in the area. Problem is that experience ended about 5 years ago when I had to seek a meatspace job to make ends meet. Sad, too, because I'm pretty sure it would've been like riding a bike to me -- a few days on the job, and I'd be back in the saddle.
But without really any good/recent work to show off, I'm not surprised I didn't get the job. At least they got back to me about it within a couple of weeks (or at all), which is more than I can say for most companies I've applied for.
But without really any good/recent work to show off, I'm not surprised I didn't get the job. At least they got back to me about it within a couple of weeks (or at all), which is more than I can say for most companies I've applied for.
I got a verbal offer recently but I'm just waiting for the final confirmation (hired by one company, who wants to dispatch me to another company they have a contract with, so I'm waiting for the final approval for the contract on the 2nd company's end). I just hope everything goes through...
TheSpoiler
Member
Gonna just vent here a little...
I'm starting to think my cover letters must suck or something since I haven't been getting any responses to the jobs I've applied for. I've done a lot of great internships paid and unpaid that were at Museums, non-profits, and most recently an international art fair, but it seems like I don't meet the requirements for an entry level job. I'm trying to land something in either Communications or Development (fundraising, individual-giving).
I have a bachelors in Art History and Museum Professions (just graduated last May) and I was also able to get an associates in Advertising and Marketing Communications from the coursework that I've done. I want to be an Arts Administrator, and I recently moved from NYC to Chicago where the job pool for this career is a lot smaller :/ I would love to get my masters but I REALLY don't want to be in debt for school (my current debt is only 5k thankfully since I went to school in-state).
So like I said it's either my cover letters suck, my experience probably isn't that great, or maybe Chicago isn't a great city for what I want to do. I'm even applying to more internships with no luck, and I recently learned that the places I'm applying for favor students who go to art schools in Chicago
Have you tried startups? There are a lot of young companies looking for help. Also, in Chicago (where I currently live), have you made connections? I assume that's important for your line of work.
Also, check out the Glassdoor for the places you apply to before sending in the application. Tons of great hints live on there.
I was there too, man. Just market yourself better, and make your resume look like a jerk off session. It's a two way street - they should want someone of your caliber.
I know what you mean, after being in 2 decently-paid jobs, it feels like a bit of a kick in the balls to go to something with a low wage. But as a few of my friends and family point out, it's a thing to get you back in the game, I probably wouldn't stay there for anymore than 12 months if I can help it.
The thing that sucks the most with me is they've put this 'exclusivity' clause in my contract, effectively meaning (unless I get written permission) I can't do something like voice over work or freelance jobs to get some extra cash.
I guess I could try and do a blog or Youtube channel that's officially 'just for fun', and try and pawn some revenue off of that.
Ventilaator
Banned
Sent an email asking about a job offer.
Two months later I get a reply saying that even though I have no work experience, they have a test assignment they could send me and if I can handle it I'll be fine. I asked for the assignment and sent back my results the next day.
Then another month later I get an email saying I did it successfully and should come in for an interview. A few days after the interview I get an email basically saying "Hey you see well the problem is you have no work experience" which they knew on day 1 but okay maybe after they read something it takes three months for them to understand it, I shouldn't judge. It wasn't all bad though, they were still willing to give me a chance and sent me a bunch of materials to study.
...and then after a few days of studying I get another email that says "Actually there's the problem that you have no work experience so we're going to have to say no"
Two months later I get a reply saying that even though I have no work experience, they have a test assignment they could send me and if I can handle it I'll be fine. I asked for the assignment and sent back my results the next day.
Then another month later I get an email saying I did it successfully and should come in for an interview. A few days after the interview I get an email basically saying "Hey you see well the problem is you have no work experience" which they knew on day 1 but okay maybe after they read something it takes three months for them to understand it, I shouldn't judge. It wasn't all bad though, they were still willing to give me a chance and sent me a bunch of materials to study.
...and then after a few days of studying I get another email that says "Actually there's the problem that you have no work experience so we're going to have to say no"
I'm currently volunteering for an advocacy non profit that had just started up, but the company isn't anything like where I want to be. I've just been taking gigs to keep myself productive. I made some connections during my last internship (EXPO CHICAGO) but none had emailed me back after I followed up with them. It's really disappointing :/
YunFang1130
Member
Does anyone work for Apple by any chance? I think I've submitted in my resume for 10 different positions and have never received any acceptance or denial letters? Is it tough to get in here?
Also, does anyone know of any good paying work at home jobs?
Also, does anyone know of any good paying work at home jobs?
Admiral Woofington
Member
If Apple is anything like Microsoft they only accept cream of the crop. So unless you're straight out of college or with a resume with excellent experience I wouldn't hold my breath unless it's a bottom of the pole job
So I've been in this interview process for about a month now. It started with emails back and forth with a recruiter at a company a buddy of mine works at. Two assessment tests, a phone interview, and an in-person interview with a manager and engineer they've gotten back to me that I'm considered a finalist for the position and they are finishing interviews with a couple other applicants. They'll get back to me after the holiday weekend.
Fingers crossed. I'm under qualified for the job, but they like to hire under qualified candidates if they see potential in them, so I really put my best foot forward. The recruiter said to me before he sat me down in the room for an interview that there's a reason I'm there, so i'm hopeful.
Fingers crossed. I'm under qualified for the job, but they like to hire under qualified candidates if they see potential in them, so I really put my best foot forward. The recruiter said to me before he sat me down in the room for an interview that there's a reason I'm there, so i'm hopeful.
TheSpoiler
Member
So I got a call back this morning. Outlook...not so good. After being worried about my flippant nature on my resume (I've been at three jobs in the past four years, but only one of them was for a very short period of time), I had to explain that I'm in it for the long haul.
They sounded like my answer was a good one, but then let me know that they have another round of interviews to go through and that I wouldn't know until Tuesday of next week at the earliest.
I also saw a job posting pop up before our call, which is the same one I'm vying for.
None of this looks good, and I'm not holding out hope on this one.
They sounded like my answer was a good one, but then let me know that they have another round of interviews to go through and that I wouldn't know until Tuesday of next week at the earliest.
I also saw a job posting pop up before our call, which is the same one I'm vying for.
None of this looks good, and I'm not holding out hope on this one.
Captain Tuttle
Member
They called you back which is better than the other 99% of the applicants.
Pancakes
hot, steaming, as melted butter slips into the cracks, drizzled with sticky sweet syrup OH GOD
Had my interview in early November for a large defense company and I've yet to hear anything back. Reading online I see people say it can take up to 2-3 months to get a response in some fringe scenarios. Would really be a great job for me and my career's future so I hope I get something soon.
FeelsBadMan
FeelsBadMan
Shogmaster
Member
Korean company? It should be Mr. Han. Lim Sung (pronounced "ee-m suh-ng") is a very typical sounding Korean first name.
I would expect it to be a Mr. or Mrs. (or Ms.) Lim. (Seonghan sounds sort of unisex to me.) While I wouldn't be surprised that it exists as a name, Googling "임성한" (with quotation marks) returns way more results than " 한임성."
openrob
Member
Whoop interview next week!
Second real one Ive had recently, and the last one nerves cocked it up for me.
TBH this isn't even my first choice so it might even help in that respect haha.
Also I have applied for a separate position in the same department. One is for experienced (this one) and one is for newly qualified workers lol. Not sure if to mention this at the interview
Second real one Ive had recently, and the last one nerves cocked it up for me.
TBH this isn't even my first choice so it might even help in that respect haha.
Also I have applied for a separate position in the same department. One is for experienced (this one) and one is for newly qualified workers lol. Not sure if to mention this at the interview
Some bigger companies can take a damn long time to hear back from. It has happened to me before too, multiple times
Roland_Gunner
Member
I worked in a sales support position at Apple in Austin for a couple of years. If you're looking for a more entry level position its probably smarter to try to get in through their recruiter than a direct hire through Apple. For more senior positions you've got two problems:
1. At least half of the jobs on the website have a preferred candidate already selected and they are just positing the position for procedural reasons. They'll only look at other applicants if the preferred candidate falls through for some reason.
2. As the other poster mentioned, Apple gets tons of candidates so they can look for super specific qualifications. If you don't have whatever it is they're looking for you wont' hear back.
Schweinehund
Member
I'll probably be in the same boat soon, I'm graduating with a CS degree next month. I don't have any external projects since I was busy with school, so my github is mostly homework code. Looking at joining an open source project but most of them are using really specific target platforms & code libraries that I don't understand, I'd probably end up fucking it up more than helping. Think I'll do some android apps and use that on my resume while I look for a programming job. Maybe create a website with laravel as well, but I'm aiming more toward app or system development than web design.
Another big issue is that I don't know what tech I should focus on, there's so many different languages. I'm experienced with C++, Java & VB.Net, but I get the impression that I shouldn't spread myself across different languages and just double down on one for my resume and do projects for that language while looking for a job. Internship opportunities were low as well, there's barely any tech companies in Michigan, especially in my area.