andythinkpad
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I am not feeling it. Its not a Batman versus Superman movie anymore.
Also, "she is with you?" lame.
Also, "she is with you?" lame.
Batman v Superman - New Official Trailer
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More_Badass
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There's a rumor that
Batman appears in the Wonder Woman movie, so maybe the Wonder Woman takes place before this and he knows about her, has been gathering info on her
Schweinehund
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bruce confirmed stalker
Guessing WW will end with him catching a glimpse of her. I'm sure he's doing some detective work, probably saw her picture in some old war articles that were dismissed as hyperbole.
The One and Done
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Um...this isn't something Snyder just made up. Have you read the comics? Also there isn't just one iteration of Batman.
As someone who's hyped about this movie, this wasn't as good of a trailer as the SDCC one and Snyder/Zimmer should've done it. I also would've liked if they didn't show as much.
HOWEVER, GAF isn't the normal world, I was shocked how many times I kept hearing the dumb question of "why are they fighting, they would never fight" I imagine WB tests showed that people were still wondering this during their marketing and decided, they had to show them coming together. Showing that they come together at the end should hopefully end that silly talk.
There's many MANY different iterations and no that's not a fundamental misunderstanding. In one extreme, he will put you in a fully body cast as long as, you're in prison and you're not dead. He's not a boy scout, he's a demon personified. This is all within Batman's vision.
HOWEVER, GAF isn't the normal world, I was shocked how many times I kept hearing the dumb question of "why are they fighting, they would never fight" I imagine WB tests showed that people were still wondering this during their marketing and decided, they had to show them coming together. Showing that they come together at the end should hopefully end that silly talk.
There's many MANY different iterations and no that's not a fundamental misunderstanding. In one extreme, he will put you in a fully body cast as long as, you're in prison and you're not dead. He's not a boy scout, he's a demon personified. This is all within Batman's vision.
Dash_Riprock
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Let's not forgot that the Golden Age version had no qualms about killing and using guns.
Man I wish we had that version again one day...
Nah, man, persecution complex is a bullshit phrase designed to silence people calling out obvious biases. It's obnoxious enough on the gaming side where we're supposed to pretend there isn't an obvious Sony bias, and now that insufferable behaviour is spreading to comic book movie threads. The sheer hyperbole in this thread is a clear indicator. One iffy trailer (after 2 great ones) and suddenly this movie is confirmed to be dog shit. There is no mistaking the smug edge to certain posters delighting in spreading that belief.
I personally lean more towards Marvel than DC, but I know there is a blatant bias when I see one.
Grinchy
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That's how I feel.
I thought it was actually just going to be the buildup and fighting of Batman vs Superman. I don't know where I got such an outrageous idea. Perhaps from the title. Perhaps from the footage that was originally shown.
Now we know it's just a typical Avengers-style "My superhero can beat up your superhero" for a moment and then everyone kisses, makes up, and fights the bad guy that no one even actually cares about.
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Sibersk Esto
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It would be pretty ballsy if the whole "evil desert superman" was the end of the movie
You're denying biases exist? Bruh, get to stepping.
That would be super weird in a bad way. It's called Dawn of Justice for a reason.
True Savior
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They both look like shit. Any other opinion is biased.
Dash_Riprock
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I don't think Warner is stupid enough to pull a ASM2--.
...Nevermind.
Reading some old threads from 2008, you could have easily called this place 360GAF and DCGAF
Dash_Riprock
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Edit: Duplicate.
Dawn Of Injustice
Well, that would make the DCU indeed very different from the MCU. But I don't think WB is brave enough for that.
I wasn't around then, but you are aware biases can shift, right? Brands can drop out of flavour and others can get hot after just one hit.
A few years from now the majority might be riding Microsoft's and DC's jocks again, but that doesn't change the biases now or that those future biases will be similarly insufferable.
Batman v Superman: Dawn of Injustice - Gods Among Us, Year 1
Or BvS
oIGAUY1 for short.Dude, epic post!!
You are naturally going to find a large amount of fans for the current "rock stars" of whatever special interest community you venture into. Sony is very successful in the console gaming space right now all while doing and saying all of the right things. Marvel has been making shared-universe comic films for over 7 years now and have built a massive following for the MCU. A greater number of fans means a greater number of people who are more likely to overlook the shortcomings of the thing that they like and who are more likely to be skeptical of the competition.
This isn't a conspiracy, this isn't anyone's persecution complex, and this isn't me accusing any place of being a hivemind. Its just naturally what happens when someone or something is on top. For example, back when the 360 was dominating, gaming side leaned a lot more towards MS than it does currently.
DC has barely started with their shared-universe and Man of Steel being the only tangible product of this for two plus years hasn't been great for convincing anyone that its worthwhile, at least from what I've observed on the internet. Marvel is about 11 films ahead of them so it makes complete sense that there are far more MCU fans right now. So with that in mind, yeah "MarvelGAF" is a thing, at least for now. Its not a bad thing by any means, but it exists.
Agree with this. To add that doesn't mean MarvelGAF are shitheads. It's a vocal minority. Criticism and skepticism are fine. Shit like "They only released this trailer because they are scared of Civil War" or "Man of Steel was garbage and this is going to bomb" on repeat is a bias.
DCGAF has its own shitheads too. "Lol, looks like a tv show."
Agreed.
la flama blanca
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But the bias is inherent with individuals who make up their own minds. There isn't an actual hivemind so you just look like a real fucking dope when you whine about it. Marvel and Sony are fucking killing it because they're making good choices, deal with it.
This Batman trailer was edited so fucking poorly, they need to do better to compete.
Pissed me off how much they showed in the trailer. Basically the whole plot was shown. Even the setup for the Justice League movie was given away. At least marvel kept those things under wraps.
I hope there's at least a few surprises in the movie.
This is why I stopped watching trailers. They are great for building hype and getting you excited but also can ruin the movie.
I hope there's at least a few surprises in the movie.
This is why I stopped watching trailers. They are great for building hype and getting you excited but also can ruin the movie.
Marvel showed the Act 3 big action set pieces leading up to both Avengers movies in trailers
Schweinehund
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Hell, MCU spoilers
Civil War interview confirmed the Tony/Cap/Bucky fight is the third act. That doesn't really ruin the movie for me. They also showed how the teams were split up in the trailer. Just about the only thing they didn't spoil was Spidey who is most likely a minor cameo. This doesn't really devalue the movie for me because that's how I expected it to end, just like how I expected BvS to end with a teamup, because of the obvious incoming Justice League movie.
Solid SOAP
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I love Batman. The Dark Knight is my favorite movie, and I'm in the middle of reading The Dark Knight Returns. Great book! Never read it before, loving it so far.
Anyway, Batman is one of the few super heroes I really like. I'll see a Marvel movie because they're guaranteed good times, but Batman is my go-to heroes. I thought the first two trailers for this movie were convincing enough, but after Man of Steel I was pretty convinced that this movie wasn't going to be anything hot. However, I still wanted to see it on principal of being a huge fan of the Bat.
HOWEVER. This trailer... jesus christ. There's like no reason to see the movie anymore! It basically confirmed my fears for the movie... bloated action sequences with toppling buildings, ugly aesthetic, wayyy too much shit going on between Batman & Superman fighting, Lex, Wonder Woman, Doomsday... fuck. This movie is gonna be a mess, very little can save it for me. I don't wanna see it anymore
Walter White
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I love Batman. The Dark Knight is my favorite movie, and I'm in the middle of reading The Dark Knight Returns. Great book! Never read it before, loving it so far.
Anyway, Batman is one of the few super heroes I really like. I'll see a Marvel movie because they're guaranteed good times, but Batman is my go-to heroes. I thought the first two trailers for this movie were convincing enough, but after Man of Steel I was pretty convinced that this movie wasn't going to be anything hot. However, I still wanted to see it on principal of being a huge fan of the Bat.
HOWEVER. This trailer... jesus christ. There's like no reason to see the movie anymore! It basically confirmed my fears for the movie... bloated action sequences with toppling buildings, ugly aesthetic, wayyy too much shit going on between Batman & Superman fighting, Lex, Wonder Woman, Doomsday... fuck. This movie is gonna be a mess, very little can save it for me. I don't wanna see it anymore
Same exact feelings as you regarding Batman. The Comic Con trailer was pure hype. This new trailer, pretty meh to me. I'm still going to watch it based on wanting to see this new take on Batman, but this second trailer pretty much sucked out a lot of the confidence the first trailer gave me.
George Oscar Bluth II
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What is this thread anymore?
Here is what I think the difference is.
Based on the BvS trailer, baring some crazy twist, which is unlikely to happen considering the fact that this is only the second movie in the DCCU, we know the general track of the entire plot. Clark and Bruce meet, Lex is there, Clark and Bruce fight, Lex goes crazy, Doomsday comes, Clark and Bruce fight him, get help from Wonder Woman, save the day. The end.
In contrast, with Civil War, this is the 13th movie in the MCU, and most likely the LAST movie that will feature Captain America and Iron Man before Infinity War. We have seen nothing of Zemo and Crossbone's true involvement in the plot, we have no idea how the fight between Cap and Iron Man plays out, who loses, if anyone dies, who betrays who, etc. We have no indication how this battle will actually end.
Discotheque
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Ben Morales
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The meltdowns will be glorious if they reveal him in a trailer!
Schweinehund
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There's still a lot we don't know about BvS either though. Faraci mentioned the ending is pretty massive, we don't know what role Darkseid is playing (we do see parademons in the trailer), if Aquaman & Mera are showing up and what their role is, or who the main bad guy is in Justice League, and there is one more leak that is up in the air that could be a pretty big deal. There's also a lot of world building that will be established between this movie and squad.
MisterHero
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did this thread talk about the parademons in batman's dream yet
Bruce has been amazing. Batman, eh. I mean, I'm sure Snyder and his writers aren't going to let him actually try and decapitate Doomsday, but I'll be surprised if he uses his intellect and paranoia to solve problems and leverage his plans. It seems like Lex is holding the puppet strings while Bats is simply out for vengeance. In TDKR, he concocts a number of plans to gain the upper hand against Supes and fools the government not to pursue him. I'm sure Batfleck has a number of tricks up his sleeves (hello kryptonite), but his motive is still kind of dumb.
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The only offensive thing about this trailer is the music.
The music they've showcased for this movie so far is beyond horrible.
The music they've showcased for this movie so far is beyond horrible.
Thankfully it's not from the movie, but it was the most generic trailer music ever.
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Lord Virgin
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How is his motive dumb? Please explain.
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TheKaeptain
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It's probably WW's vision.
bigboss370
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fuuuuuck me, what a time to be ALIVE.
George Oscar Bluth II
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It's sad.
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If you don't like this shot, then you have no soul.
His desire is to defeat a literal god because of his perceived paranoia. That's fine, but his reasoning of the method of execution is up in the air. He is in fact taking Supes head on, but why unless you're on a suicide mission or have a huge ego? At least TDKR Bats knows Supes will hold back on him. Batfleck doesn't have that luxury or at least he doesn't know it.
Who knows? Maybe WW tells him her vision of the future if he doesn't interfere, or he gambles on Supes holding himself back, or Lex is the greatest salesman in the world, so maybe it will all make sense why he's fighting Supes man-to-god.
Go on......
What did he mean by this?
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It shows Superman bleeding in the trailer so I think Bats isnt that in over his head
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