Coffee Dog
Banned
Well, FFVII is being made today, in a market that doesn't support turn based games. lol
And what is more "modern" about real time games, or what isn't "modern" about turn based games? what does that even mean?
Final Fantasy 7 Remake: Chunk 1 (CyberConnect2, UE4) Trailer, "PS4 Console Debut"
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Well, FFVII is being made today, in a market that doesn't support turn based games. lol
And what is more "modern" about real time games, or what isn't "modern" about turn based games? what does that even mean?
artsi
Member
Yeah I feel people who say that haven't played VII yet, the first half of disc 1 is 100% linear. And Midgar is just a bunch of corridors, essentially.
AdventureMike
Member
Again, there is a multitude of turn-based RPGs being released today. There is nothing that makes action based more modern than turn-based (or ATB). It's just a different style.
It looks beautiful but I hope it won't be too action .. so far not a big fan of the VOs but I expected this. I didn't expect the combat to be that different though .. I'm really skeptical but I'll have to play it to know if I like it I guess. I loved Resident Evil 1 remake because it was gorgeous but faithful to the original. Imagine if they would've put a fix camera behind his back, you start with a machine gun with unlimited amo and you can run .. it would suck!! That's what I'm afraid here .. a change of focus can make things worst.
It looks pretty faithful to his design though. His arms were always tiny in the character art.
Crash Station
Member
No one knows this! People keep pulling this out of their ass when's there's absolutely no evidence for it.
ShadowSwordmaster
Banned
Beautiful.
Megidolaon
Member
Hopefully its not another cinematic hallway simulator with the VII brand. Im confident with Nomura, but that Uncharted stuff worries me.
Hopefully it still has full towns and feels like an RPG.
Hopefully it still has full towns and feels like an RPG.
TrAcEr_x90
Member
I am so confused, was that all realtime? especially at the end when he has his sword? I can't believe how good graphics are now.
That's exactly what I mean. Modern audiences are playing real-time RPGs and action games, and they would expect that kind of gameplay in a big mainstream title like this.
People need to understand the era that this is being made in. It's not about dragging the past into the present, it's about making a game in the present, informed by the past.
GloriousBagel
Banned
Amazing what the dev team was able to accomplish in a year.
artsi
Member
Don't worry, there will be towns. You just can't cut out 95% of the game and say it's a remake.
MistressMoitie
Member
I am loving everything about this. I cannot wait. Super stoked!
TheJollyCorner
Member
I'm thinking they'll add it to a game they want to sell that might struggle on it's own. KH3 will do amazing on its own.
Soooo... Dissidia PS4?
It would be poetic with the original VII demo releasing with a fighting game back in '96.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
YO IMAGINE IF THEY'RE DONE WITH THE ENTIRE MIDGAR (PART 1) STORY ARC.
IS THE DEVELOPMENT WORKING ON CALM RIGHT NOW?
IMAGINE FUCKING CALM
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
IS THE DEVELOPMENT WORKING ON CALM RIGHT NOW?
IMAGINE FUCKING CALM
I CAN'T BELIEVE THIS IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING
Japanmanx3
Member
The first trailer was a warning to expect the same stuff. As much of a fan as I am of classic jrpg's that were turn based, they are a dead attraction these days. The last time I was relevant for me was Lost Odyssey and even that became monotonous to me. Final Fantasy XIII kept me more invested in the way it handled its system. Pure turn based strategy has become a niche field. To expect Nomura of all people o be the one o bring it back was truly not reality.
It sucks for the purist who wanted the straight up turn based gameplay, but they are definitely a minority at this point. Either we embrace this change or just let it go. It's ok regardless.
TwEE-N-Toast
Banned
Are they going to cut out big chunks of the game like the overworld I wonder. Hope not.
Coffee Dog
Banned
why is turn based "the past"
turn based games are still releasing
you might as well be saying "profitable" and "unprofitable" instead of "present" and "past" because that's what you seem to be wanting to say
StormBrute
Member
It might be just my imagination, but it looks like there have been subtle changes to Cloud's face here to make him look slightly more gaunt and Sephiroth-esque,as per the stuff with
his relation to the Sephiroth clones at this point.
rip yoshichan
Going by this thread, Persona,SMT and Dragon Quest better get with the times.
jormungand
Banned
It's funny for me that a few years ago, the possibilities for a FF VII Remake Were almost none, and now here we are watching gameplay.
I guess it is time for us to start demanding the Remake of Parasite Eve and Chrono Trigger imo.
I guess it is time for us to start demanding the Remake of Parasite Eve and Chrono Trigger imo.
Meccanical
Member
artsi
Member
Oh yes. Hell yes.
The only compromise I can see them making is doing a Type-0 overworld style encounter system.
But honestly it'd be easier to just cut that and use menus.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Inject it into my veins. I mean, once they said they were changing the battle system I knew we were getting that brand of ARPG I fucking despise but at this point the fact the game is real, looks polished and looks far along is all I really care about. I'll take it for what it is.
NoctisVsStar
Member
He was always a skinny dude the thing about playing 7 back in the day everyone had predetermined vision on how cloud acted and actually looked like. So it can be a bit jarring for some.
Any hope that the world map will look something like this? The high-end graphics make me fear the world map will be greatly restricted, like FFX.
Its not going to look like Xenoblade, cause FF7 aint an open world. The world map is just a linear 3D area to take you to other towns and specific places.
Imagine the Sephiroth fight at the end of the game done right.
Seven Force
Banned
It more than likely will. The Midgar portion of the game was always a cinematic, occasionally setpiece driven sequence relative to the rest of the game, which was standard JRPG fare structurally speaking.
I won't bring it up in threads not related to the combat, just let me vent a bit in this one though
Honestly if it turns out great, then that's great. But I've not really enjoyed a FF game since FFX, in large part because of the shift in combat that has happened.
Meccanical
Member
He definitely has a sickly look, and I can't help but feel that's on purpose considering what we know of his past.
Okay? That's a mid size developer. Less than hundred would be small. How many employees do you think Square Enix, Sega, Capcom, etc have?
Crash Station
Member
It always surprises me how the first part of the world you're introduced in is the most largest and expansive of all.
Edit: Whoops, mistook Midgar for the world itself somehow. But still, it's fairly linear after entering Mythril Caves.
Freyjadour
Member
Those gifs really make it seem like either:
A) Each attack is depleting the ATB looking bar.
B) Each attack fills the bar until it goes into cooldown.
Camera cinematically following attacks looks like it would be really irritating if you were controlling his movement as well.
A) Each attack is depleting the ATB looking bar.
B) Each attack fills the bar until it goes into cooldown.
Camera cinematically following attacks looks like it would be really irritating if you were controlling his movement as well.
Not adoring Barret's sunglasses nor his (presumably) default weapon. Why would they change his look so much, but keep Cloud the same?
I think the world map will be extremely similar in feel to FFXV. After this trailer, FFVIIr is looking more like a total-conversion mod of FFXV.
Any hope that the world map will look something like this? The high-end graphics make me fear the world map will be greatly restricted, like FFX.
I think the world map will be extremely similar in feel to FFXV. After this trailer, FFVIIr is looking more like a total-conversion mod of FFXV.
Rewatching the trailer, I just love how they captured the character of Cloud from the original so well. He definitely looks like he's motivated and ready to kick some ass while still haveing some of the "indifferent" character trait that I remember from the last playthrough.
