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[HeeHo]

I'm quite happy they split it up into multiple episodes. I don't think they could do the game justice in just one game. As far as leveling goes, I imagine they could either provide a leveling cap for the player, cap the amount of experience enemies give on each disc, or restart the leveling on each disc. I'm thinking they'll go with option one or two. A level cap for the player would seem simple enough. The second option would be closer to the spirit of the original game though.

If it really is going to be full length games, I'd imagine they would start you back at 1, and have you getting more advanced materia and gear from the get go. Or something. Wouldn't providing a level cap make it so that you're not horribly overpowered on the second episode? But then wouldn't that require someone who only bought episode 2 to purchase episode 1? I don't play episodic games so I don't really know how it all works.

 

[Frozenprince]

If it really is going to be full length games, I'd imagine they would start you back at 1, and have you getting more advanced materia and gear from the get go. Or something. Wouldn't providing a level cap make it so that you're not horribly overpowered on the second episode? But then wouldn't that require someone who only bought episode 2 to purchase episode 1? I don't play episodic games so I don't really know how it all works.

Probably like the ME series, you can either start from 1 but the combat and encounters and everything is scaled, or you start at a higher level with abilities and items and money that's capped at a certain amount so that you have a slight advantage for the first few hours.

 

[BocoDragon]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the reaction. Masses of people were saying since 2005 "why don't they just break the glass, cash in, and make the damn VII remake! It's easy, just look at FFIV DS or FFX HD!" Of course many fans have absolutely zero perspective on what developing a VII remake would entail. It's astonishing how little people have thought through the logistics of it.

You know who I do have respect for, is the people who demanded a VII remake, but just a simple REmake style coat of new paint. That was realistic... Still a big job, but doable. But let's face it.. That's not what the masses want. That's not the game that goes viral on social media with a generation who weren't even around for the original losing their minds. That's not the game that makes VII relevant again.

 

[Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew]

Here is all i want from Square.


Do it right
Make each entry feel complete and provide quality gameplay.
Respect the source material.


Ill be fine in paying 60 for a trilogy of FF7 games. In fact i welcome all that FF7 goodness. I seem to always remember people posting about 'ALL MY MONIES' if they would announce the remake.

People already paid good money for the various spinoffs and mediums of FF7 previously released, games which were FUCKING BAD and released because of the whole hype and fantasymania, and people played it and pretending to love it! All of a sudden its blasphemy now?

Regardless, folks that are saying that Enix should wait 5 years should be the ones waiting 5 years and buy the Ultimate Kojima Edition which will include all 3 games for $60 in 2020. Great deal IMO for 3 full games, no matter how split they are.

You want a complete game? Please be patient and vote with your wallet.

 

[Rising_Hei]

You could reach lvl 99 anytime in the original game so I dont understand where you are going with this?

Or they could ditch the lvl system and pull off something new, like how strong you are is dictated by the skills you get, and you can only get those avalaible, only being allowed to get more skills when the next part comes out

 

[injurai]

Please.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a pipe dream. We are getting a pipe dream. Some folks are worked up over it like its an ugly divorce. The game moved to a different medium and thus requires a lot more work and a lot more budget and a lot more things to do. Do you really REALLY want a straight up remake with invisible walls preventing you from exploring the entire city? Do you really want a half-assed remake? Play the remaster. It's available NOW on major platforms for less than half the price you'll pay for this.

This isn't for you. Do you really think announcing it early has to do with this decision? This decision is made because its fucking expensive to make a proper Final Fantasy 7 remake. They wanted to remake this since PS3 launch! They just didn't because time and money and employee resource management is a problem. Money doesn't grow on trees, especially when you're complaining about a $60 game. These guys pour their life and soul into it and years of their LIFE into it, only to be told that it's not good enough when they believe that the game will be massive and requires splitting? The game already was on 3 Discs, do you really want them to work on it for 5 years, go bankrupt and release a "Full edition" that people may or may not buy? They're being cautious about it while respecting the game and giving it more time and effort and proper expansion that the universe deserves.

People paid top dollars for Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. Now THAT was a glorified demo. People paid top dollars for The Phantom Pain. Now THAT was an incomplete game. It changed the entire structure of Konami for the amount of money they spend (and wasted) on that game.

Let the developers develop. We have a very sour tongue and usually complain about the smallest things. Complaining about how a game is developing is just ranting for no reason at best.

I am cautiously optimistic about this engagement. They have shown GAMEPLAY footage when others blatantly lie in your face and fake it. They're dedicated to this project and all we should do is observe the development and see how it turns up. I'll feel BLESSED if they released the remake in parts of full. I want to play it and I want to explore it and I want to love it and get lost in the universe. There are HUNDREDS of games that release every year. A lot of them are actually very realistically EPISODIC at best. Everything has DLC and more DLC and more ways to scource money from you.

Here you have a developer making multiple titles, some of which were announced last gen and have yet to show. These things, they take time and money. Please be patient and judge the game for yourself (or let others review it). I can name over a dozen games that are going nowhere because the concept is quite complicated no matter how simple they may look.

TL;DR: Time + Money + Effort + Dedicated people giving their lives for your gaming pleasure = be patient and pay when its out and you actually like it. Episodic or not episodic.

Wonderful post Shagg. For many these things just need to be reminders, but others ignore and use these threads as their personal stage for to let everyone know how much Square has wronged them. It's frustrating to say these least.

I feel blessed to, and I actually feel like they are giving us more more than anyone bargained for.

 

[Frozenprince]

I guess I shouldn't be surprised at the reaction. Masses of people were were saying since 2005 "why don't they just break the glass, cash in, and make the damn VII remake! It's easy, just look at FFIV DS or FFX HD!" Of course many fans have absolutely zero perspective on what developing a VII remake would entail. It's astonishing how little people have thought through the logistics of it.

You know who I do have respect for, is the people who demanded a VII remake, but just a simple REmake style coat of new paint. That was realistic... Still a big job, but doable. But let's face it.. That's not what the masses want. That's not the game that goes viral on social media with a generation who weren't even around for the original losing their minds. That's not the game that makes VII relevant again.

Yep. You can either get a game that lets you experience FFVII for the first time again.

Or you can get the exact same game with a new coat of paint.

While I understand the desire to play something again you love in HD with better sprites and backgrounds and stuff. I'v already played FFVII, I'v played it a lot.

If I'm going to go back to something I need to invest 130 hours in, I want the experience itself to be distinct. But this is just personal preference.

 

[Manmademan]

Or they could ditch the lvl system and pull off something new, like how strong you are is dictated by the skills you get, and you can only get those avalaible, only being allowed to get more skills when the next part comes out

Or go the FFVI route, where equipped espers/materia provides level up bonuses. Power grinding to Lv. 99 as early as possible means your characters would be weak as hell by the endgame. You wanted to avoid leveling in that game as much as possible until you found the right esper.

Or the FFVIII route, where enemies scale along with you in level, making straight leveling pointless.

 

[Dark_castle]

I wonder if part 1 length is equivalent to disc 1 of the original. I remember it was indeed pretty much a size of a full game in terms of hours by the time I reached the end of disc 1, probably took me around 25 hours. Hell when I first played FFVII, I have little idea of how big these RPG were and I thought the entire game happened inside Midgar, until the mind-blowing moment arrived and the group steps outside onto the world map and there is so much more to the world.

 

[Sciortino]

Please.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a pipe dream. We are getting a pipe dream. Some folks are worked up over it like its an ugly divorce. The game moved to a different medium and thus requires a lot more work and a lot more budget and a lot more things to do. Do you really REALLY want a straight up remake with invisible walls preventing you from exploring the entire city? Do you really want a half-assed remake? Play the remaster. It's available NOW on major platforms for less than half the price you'll pay for this.

This isn't for you. Do you really think announcing it early has to do with this decision? This decision is made because its fucking expensive to make a proper Final Fantasy 7 remake. They wanted to remake this since PS3 launch! They just didn't because time and money and employee resource management is a problem. Money doesn't grow on trees, especially when you're complaining about a $60 game. These guys pour their life and soul into it and years of their LIFE into it, only to be told that it's not good enough when they believe that the game will be massive and requires splitting? The game already was on 3 Discs, do you really want them to work on it for 5 years, go bankrupt and release a "Full edition" that people may or may not buy? They're being cautious about it while respecting the game and giving it more time and effort and proper expansion that the universe deserves.

People paid top dollars for Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. Now THAT was a glorified demo. People paid top dollars for The Phantom Pain. Now THAT was an incomplete game. It changed the entire structure of Konami for the amount of money they spend (and wasted) on that game.

Let the developers develop. We have a very sour tongue and usually complain about the smallest things. Complaining about how a game is developing is just ranting for no reason at best.

I am cautiously optimistic about this engagement. They have shown GAMEPLAY footage when others blatantly lie in your face and fake it. They're dedicated to this project and all we should do is observe the development and see how it turns up. I'll feel BLESSED if they released the remake in parts of full. I want to play it and I want to explore it and I want to love it and get lost in the universe. There are HUNDREDS of games that release every year. A lot of them are actually very realistically EPISODIC at best. Everything has DLC and more DLC and more ways to scource money from you.

Here you have a developer making multiple titles, some of which were announced last gen and have yet to show. These things, they take time and money. Please be patient and judge the game for yourself (or let others review it). I can name over a dozen games that are going nowhere because the concept is quite complicated no matter how simple they may look.

TL;DR: Time + Money + Effort + Dedicated people giving their lives for your gaming pleasure = be patient and pay when its out and you actually like it. Episodic or not episodic.

Amazing post.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I wonder if part 1 length is equivalent to disc 1 of the original. I remember it was indeed pretty much a size of a full game in terms of hours by the time I reached the end of disc 1, probably took me around 25 hours. Hell when I first played FFVII, I have little idea of how big these RPG were and I thought the entire game happened inside Midgar, until the mind-blowing moment arrived and the group steps outside onto the world map and there is so much more to the world.

I remember that as well. But tbh I think it was a common sentiment (at least for me) to actually return to Midgaard as well. After all it had some 8 sectors and we only step foot in like 3 of them and barely ever explore the top layer. Midgaard was definitely an extremely underutilized location in the game.

I don't want to explore every single sector, both top and bottom, but I do want to explore a lot more.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Yep. You can either get a game that lets you experience FFVII for the first time again.

Or you can get the exact same game with a new coat of paint.

While I understand the desire to play something again you love in HD with better sprites and backgrounds and stuff. I'v already played FFVII, I'v played it a lot.

If I'm going to go back to something I need to invest 130 hours in, I want the experience itself to be distinct. But this is just personal preference.

People wanted a new coat of paint since FF AC and that came out 10 years ago .

 

[Frozenprince]

People wanted a new coat of paint since FF AC and that came out 10 years ago .

Hence my saying that I understand that people want it. But for myself and I'm sure the developers, they want to take this opportunity to do something new in that universe.

 

[Bishop89]

What exactly is the size of a full game? 😑 to me a full sized game is a COMPLETE game where there are no other parts

 

[Pasta_Soup]

Please.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a pipe dream. We are getting a pipe dream. Some folks are worked up over it like its an ugly divorce. The game moved to a different medium and thus requires a lot more work and a lot more budget and a lot more things to do. Do you really REALLY want a straight up remake with invisible walls preventing you from exploring the entire city? Do you really want a half-assed remake? Play the remaster. It's available NOW on major platforms for less than half the price you'll pay for this.

This isn't for you. Do you really think announcing it early has to do with this decision? This decision is made because its fucking expensive to make a proper Final Fantasy 7 remake. They wanted to remake this since PS3 launch! They just didn't because time and money and employee resource management is a problem. Money doesn't grow on trees, especially when you're complaining about a $60 game. These guys pour their life and soul into it and years of their LIFE into it, only to be told that it's not good enough when they believe that the game will be massive and requires splitting? The game already was on 3 Discs, do you really want them to work on it for 5 years, go bankrupt and release a "Full edition" that people may or may not buy? They're being cautious about it while respecting the game and giving it more time and effort and proper expansion that the universe deserves.

People paid top dollars for Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. Now THAT was a glorified demo. People paid top dollars for The Phantom Pain. Now THAT was an incomplete game. It changed the entire structure of Konami for the amount of money they spend (and wasted) on that game.

Let the developers develop. We have a very sour tongue and usually complain about the smallest things. Complaining about how a game is developing is just ranting for no reason at best.

I am cautiously optimistic about this engagement. They have shown GAMEPLAY footage when others blatantly lie in your face and fake it. They're dedicated to this project and all we should do is observe the development and see how it turns up. I'll feel BLESSED if they released the remake in parts of full. I want to play it and I want to explore it and I want to love it and get lost in the universe. There are HUNDREDS of games that release every year. A lot of them are actually very realistically EPISODIC at best. Everything has DLC and more DLC and more ways to scource money from you.

Here you have a developer making multiple titles, some of which were announced last gen and have yet to show. These things, they take time and money. Please be patient and judge the game for yourself (or let others review it). I can name over a dozen games that are going nowhere because the concept is quite complicated no matter how simple they may look.

TL;DR: Time + Money + Effort + Dedicated people giving their lives for your gaming pleasure = be patient and pay when its out and you actually like it. Episodic or not episodic.

One of the few posts in the past few days in regards to FFVIIr that doesn't make me feel embarrassed to be part of the gaming community. Thank you for posting this.

 

[Frozenprince]

What exactly is the size of a full game? �� to me a full sized game is a COMPLETE game where there are no other parts

So Mass Effect 1 isn't a complete game?

LIS in the last thread, people need to stop thinking of in house dev side of SE like a western developer. They aren't. To a JRPG developer it is outright blasphemous to release a game that cannot stand on it's own as a complete, comprehensive experience.

 

[ackl]

Please.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a pipe dream. We are getting a pipe dream. Some folks are worked up over it like its an ugly divorce. The game moved to a different medium and thus requires a lot more work and a lot more budget and a lot more things to do. Do you really REALLY want a straight up remake with invisible walls preventing you from exploring the entire city? Do you really want a half-assed remake? Play the remaster. It's available NOW on major platforms for less than half the price you'll pay for this.

This isn't for you. Do you really think announcing it early has to do with this decision? This decision is made because its fucking expensive to make a proper Final Fantasy 7 remake. They wanted to remake this since PS3 launch! They just didn't because time and money and employee resource management is a problem. Money doesn't grow on trees, especially when you're complaining about a $60 game. These guys pour their life and soul into it and years of their LIFE into it, only to be told that it's not good enough when they believe that the game will be massive and requires splitting? The game already was on 3 Discs, do you really want them to work on it for 5 years, go bankrupt and release a "Full edition" that people may or may not buy? They're being cautious about it while respecting the game and giving it more time and effort and proper expansion that the universe deserves.

People paid top dollars for Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. Now THAT was a glorified demo. People paid top dollars for The Phantom Pain. Now THAT was an incomplete game. It changed the entire structure of Konami for the amount of money they spend (and wasted) on that game.

Let the developers develop. We have a very sour tongue and usually complain about the smallest things. Complaining about how a game is developing is just ranting for no reason at best.

I am cautiously optimistic about this engagement. They have shown GAMEPLAY footage when others blatantly lie in your face and fake it. They're dedicated to this project and all we should do is observe the development and see how it turns up. I'll feel BLESSED if they released the remake in parts of full. I want to play it and I want to explore it and I want to love it and get lost in the universe. There are HUNDREDS of games that release every year. A lot of them are actually very realistically EPISODIC at best. Everything has DLC and more DLC and more ways to scource money from you.

Here you have a developer making multiple titles, some of which were announced last gen and have yet to show. These things, they take time and money. Please be patient and judge the game for yourself (or let others review it). I can name over a dozen games that are going nowhere because the concept is quite complicated no matter how simple they may look.

TL;DR: Time + Money + Effort + Dedicated people giving their lives for your gaming pleasure = be patient and pay when its out and you actually like it. Episodic or not episodic.

Bless this post.

 

[ULTROS!]

I'd be cool with a fully fleshed out Midgar for the first part of the remake. Imagine being able to explore all 8 sectors and all floors of Shinra tower.

 

[MrHoot]

Do we get Cissnei from CC though, appearing with the turks.

It's important, I need to know
I need it

So Mass Effect 1 isn't a complete game?

LIS in the last thread, people need to stop thinking of in house dev side of SE like a western developer. They aren't. To a JRPG developer it is outright blasphemous to release a game that cannot stand on it's own as a complete, comprehensive experience.

Shame and honour is a big thing in japanese culture so i've heard

 

[NoctisVsStar]

I'm blessed this game is happening under the supervision of Lord Nomura. What a time to be a alive 8

 

[Gouty]

If it were any other developer on Earth I'd just say "huh, well I guess thats the only way to handle a project of this scope" and trust that they were making the right decision.

But this is Square.

There is zero chance they don't fuck this up.

We still don't have FF15/Vs or Kingdom Hearts 3 after waiting a decade and now they want to throw in an episodic remake of FF7 into the schedule?

I'm certain those episodes will all be released in a timely fashion that add up to a cohesive, fun, and faithful retelling of FF7. lol jk

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Hence my saying that I understand that people want it. But for myself and I'm sure the developers, they want to take this opportunity to do something new in that universe.

I am agreeing with you lol.
Which why we getting AC like gfx , more action base battle system.
Added content from other parts of the story and newer ones also .
With who knows what else , hoping for on line chocobo racing lol .

 

[Kyoufu]

What exactly is the size of a full game? 😑 to me a full sized game is a COMPLETE game where there are no other parts

So, Trails in the Sky FC and SC aren't full sized games?

You guys are too much.

 

[Bishop89]

So Mass Effect 1 isn't a complete game?

LIS in the last thread, people need to stop thinking of in house dev side of SE like a western developer. They aren't. To a JRPG developer it is outright blasphemous to release a game that cannot stand on it's own as a complete, comprehensive experience.

Sequels excluded.
This is a remake of a standalone game.

Unless you meant something else with your example ( I havnt finished me1)

 

[Frozenprince]

Sequels excluded.
This is a remake of a standalone game.

Unless you meant something else with your example ( I havnt finished me1)

A standalone game that came out 20 years ago. They want to make this remake/re-imagining into it's own thing, it's own series.

It isn't a carbon copy of FFVII, it is going to be it's own unique version of it.

Basically it's going to be Mass Effect except we already know how the story ends.

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

Do we get Cissnei from CC though, appearing with the turks.

It's important, I need to know
I need it

Cissnei, along with 11 other Turks member, is assumed to already be dead during the events of Final Fantasy VII due to the conspiracy and world-ending shenanigans that took place in Before Crisis.

 

[Frozenprince]

I am agreeing with you lol.
Which why we getting AC like gfx , more action base battle system.
Added content from other parts of the story and newer ones also .
With who knows what else , hoping for on line chocobo racing lol .

I need Chocobo breeding leaderboards.

I never knew I did until this very moment.

But I need them.

 

[Bishop89]

A standalone game that came out 20 years ago. They want to make this remake/re-imagining into it's own thing, it's own series.

It isn't a carbon copy of FFVII, it is going to be it's own unique version of it.

Basically it's going to be Mass Effect except we already know how the story ends.

Alright then I apologise. I thought this was a 1:1 remake, with some alterations (combat)

 

[DXLelouch153]

So Mass Effect 1 isn't a complete game?

LIS in the last thread, people need to stop thinking of in house dev side of SE like a western developer. They aren't. To a JRPG developer it is outright blasphemous to release a game that cannot stand on it's own as a complete, comprehensive experience.

honor and shame etc,etc
expect not sarcastic this time

 

[Cave Johnson]

Massive, really? There has been so many RPGs, even from them, with the size of what could be a fully 3D FFVII, the excuse is stupid as hell.
It sounds just like, "but its to hard to make 3D towns guys!"

I facepalmed right here. Did you not see the initial trailer of this game? To replicate midgar at that scale (which I highly doubt) would've wrapped all the major RPG's from last generation to this one

 

[~Kinggi~]

Alright then I apologise. I thought this was a 1:1 remake, with some alterations (combat)

I think Resident Evil Remake might be the closest similarity here.

 

[Exentryk]

I would imagine that each episode will contain the data for all locations that you can access up to that episode, even supporting the ability to backtrack to areas that are only relevant in previous episodes. Similar to how the original had all of the world data on each disc, it was just FMV/cutscene data that was unique per disc. The intent is certainly that the finished series feels like one continuous game assuming you own the whole thing.

They'll certainly erect barriers to prevent you from going to areas that you can't access until *later* episodes, of course, but assuming the basic world map design is the same that's not too difficult- the original already pretty much railroaded you such that you couldn't skip ahead to areas you weren't supposed to be in yet up until you got the Highwind at which point there weren't too many points left on the map for you to explore (the rest of the story after that is mostly spent revisiting older locations.)

This is what I am hoping for, but somehow, I don't think we'll get this. Love to be wrong though.

 

[fester]

Wonderful post Shagg. For many these things just need to be reminders, but others ignore and use these threads as their personal stage for to let everyone know how much Square has wronged them. It's frustrating to say these least.

I feel blessed to, and I actually feel like they are giving us more more than anyone bargained for.

Give me a break. "Blessed"? It's a business transaction, not a religious experience. Square isn't doing us any favors, they are running a business trying to make a profit for their shareholders. If they make a game you like, you buy it. If they make a game you don't like, don't buy it. Being thankful, blessed, etc is irrelevant. All this corporate veneration is the truly embarrassing thing around here.

 

[MrHoot]

Cissnei, along with 11 other Turks member, is assumed to already be dead during the events of Final Fantasy VII due to the conspiracy and world-ending shenanigans that took place in Before Crisis.

Aw fuck (didn't even get to experience Before Crisis..or if I did i completely forgot)

There goes best girl then

 

[Ryuuga]

Give me a break. "Blessed"? It's a business transaction, not a religious experience. Square isn't doing us any favors, they are running a business trying to make a profit for their shareholders. If they make a game you like, you buy it. If they make a game you don't like, don't buy it. Being thankful, blessed, etc is irrelevant. All this corporate veneration is the truly embarrassing thing around here.

 

[Zukuu]

At this point, I only hope it will be in as few parts as possible. I now hope that the rumor "two FF VII games are in development" from last year or so is true and that it means FFVII-1 and FFVII-2. Every part more makes this a more and more watered down version, so two is the least worse. It would make also the most sense, story wise to make a break at the biggest story point in the game. You know, after Aeris...

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

Please.

Final Fantasy 7 Remake is a pipe dream. We are getting a pipe dream. Some folks are worked up over it like its an ugly divorce. The game moved to a different medium and thus requires a lot more work and a lot more budget and a lot more things to do. Do you really REALLY want a straight up remake with invisible walls preventing you from exploring the entire city? Do you really want a half-assed remake? Play the remaster. It's available NOW on major platforms for less than half the price you'll pay for this.

This isn't for you. Do you really think announcing it early has to do with this decision? This decision is made because its fucking expensive to make a proper Final Fantasy 7 remake. They wanted to remake this since PS3 launch! They just didn't because time and money and employee resource management is a problem. Money doesn't grow on trees, especially when you're complaining about a $60 game. These guys pour their life and soul into it and years of their LIFE into it, only to be told that it's not good enough when they believe that the game will be massive and requires splitting? The game already was on 3 Discs, do you really want them to work on it for 5 years, go bankrupt and release a "Full edition" that people may or may not buy? They're being cautious about it while respecting the game and giving it more time and effort and proper expansion that the universe deserves.

People paid top dollars for Metal Gear Solid V: Ground Zeroes. Now THAT was a glorified demo. People paid top dollars for The Phantom Pain. Now THAT was an incomplete game. It changed the entire structure of Konami for the amount of money they spend (and wasted) on that game.

Let the developers develop. We have a very sour tongue and usually complain about the smallest things. Complaining about how a game is developing is just ranting for no reason at best.

I am cautiously optimistic about this engagement. They have shown GAMEPLAY footage when others blatantly lie in your face and fake it. They're dedicated to this project and all we should do is observe the development and see how it turns up. I'll feel BLESSED if they released the remake in parts of full. I want to play it and I want to explore it and I want to love it and get lost in the universe. There are HUNDREDS of games that release every year. A lot of them are actually very realistically EPISODIC at best. Everything has DLC and more DLC and more ways to scource money from you.

Here you have a developer making multiple titles, some of which were announced last gen and have yet to show. These things, they take time and money. Please be patient and judge the game for yourself (or let others review it). I can name over a dozen games that are going nowhere because the concept is quite complicated no matter how simple they may look.

TL;DR: Time + Money + Effort + Dedicated people giving their lives for your gaming pleasure = be patient and pay when its out and you actually like it. Episodic or not episodic.

Thing is, when I think episodic or multipart , I think small parcels of small scale games. Like Telltale stuff. Sure it doesn't have to be that, but that's what the format lends itself to.

If they came out and showed their plan and scope to reassure that this isn't comprised of what feel like a bunch FF7 chapter summaries, I'll feel a lot better about this.

 

[MrHoot]

Give me a break. "Blessed"? It's a business transaction, not a religious experience. Square isn't doing us any favors, they are running a business trying to make a profit for their shareholders. If they make a game you like, you buy it. If they make a game you don't like, don't buy it. Being thankful, blessed, etc is irrelevant. All this corporate veneration is the truly embarrassing thing around here.

Yyyyyeah not actually disagreeing there. I mean while I still accept the decision of multipart, still gonna keep a close eye on the game itself cuz so far we've yet to see really anything. And with that new plan in mind, content better be freaking amaaaaazing to make up for it

 

[DXLelouch153]

Thing is, when I think episodic or multipart , I think small parcels of small scale games. Like Telltale stuff. Sure it doesn't have to be that, but that's what the format lends itself to.

If they came out and showed their plan and scope to reassure that this isn't comprised of what feel like a bunch FF7 chapter summaries, I'll feel a lot better about this.

welp tell your brain to stop thinking that way
Nomura specifically said he doesnt want to give us a FF7 Digest but the whole experience

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I facepalmed right here. Did you not see the initial trailer of this game? To replicate midgar at that scale (which I highly doubt) would've wrapped all the major RPG's from last generation to this one

Midgar is fucking huge if we go by some of what we see in FF AC .
We mostly likely going to get around 5% the most to play around in lol

 

[ZombiePlatypus]

welp tell your brain to stop thinking that way
Nomura specifically said he doesnt want to give us a FF7 Digest but the whole experience

That's nice and all, but given how their past sagas and compilations were handled, I'm gonna need to see some tangible details before I can blindly just support taking what was once a cohesive experience and gutting it up.

 

[Vincent Alexander]

Atleast Yoshida can understand.

Yeah. Because all of us who have gone 20 years now are really dying to have the remake tomorrow. We can wait.

That's nice and all, but given how their past sagas and compilations were handled, I'm gonna need to see some tangible details before I can blindly just support taking what was once a cohesive experience and gutting it up.

Damn skippy

Give me a break. "Blessed"? It's a business transaction, not a religious experience. Square isn't doing us any favors, they are running a business trying to make a profit for their shareholders. If they make a game you like, you buy it. If they make a game you don't like, don't buy it. Being thankful, blessed, etc is irrelevant. All this corporate veneration is the truly embarrassing thing around here.

I completely agree with you logically. But you lost me with the last sentence. You made your point before--that last sentence came off a little too....meh....trying hard.

 

[Inuhanyou]

I think the only real thing to do right now is just go in with catious optimism if you want to believe in the game.

If one doesn't want to believe in the game, i'd assume those people to have dropped out after PSX anyway due to the shift in direction

 

[Scrooge McDuck]

Give me a break. "Blessed"? It's a business transaction, not a religious experience. Square isn't doing us any favors, they are running a business trying to make a profit for their shareholders. If they make a game you like, you buy it. If they make a game you don't like, don't buy it. Being thankful, blessed, etc is irrelevant. All this corporate veneration is the truly embarrassing thing around here.

Well, if we are looking it through the lens of cold business transactions, getting mad for something that they've never done to us is also pretty illogical. "If they made a game you don't want, then don't buy it." Indeed. No need to feel slighted or act like they need to make up for anything.

But it's obvious most don't actually see it with no feeling at all. This game is important to people, hence the forceful reactions.

 

[HerroRygar]

As I mentioned in another thread, my only concern is the cohesive world. What happens when I want to take my late-game characters into early game content like fort Juno, gold saucer, etc.?

 

[injurai]

Give me a break. "Blessed"? It's a business transaction, not a religious experience. Square isn't doing us any favors, they are running a business trying to make a profit for their shareholders. If they make a game you like, you buy it. If they make a game you don't like, don't buy it. Being thankful, blessed, etc is irrelevant. All this corporate veneration is the truly embarrassing thing around here.

Alright, you're right in a sense. Prose doesn't really have a place on a gaming forum. But I don't see it as them not doing us any favors. I see the creators has trying to make something grander. If it strays from what some people want, that is to be expected. I actually like a lot of the things they are doing. The new gameplay for one. But I do enjoy that they want to expand the scope of their efforts to such an extent that it will take multiple development cycles to finishes of a series of entries to retell this tail. So I'm thankful about that.

I've already mentioned I'm cautious about the game, but I don't agree with throw all hell to the walls. Some people think Square should operate as if it isn't a business, which is even more absurd.

 

[Kyoufu]

As I mentioned in another thread, my only concern is the cohesive world. What happens when I want to take my late-game characters into early game content like fort Juno, gold saucer, etc.?

The games will likely run on the same executable.

 

[DXLelouch153]

I think the only real thing to do right now is just go in with catious optimism if you want to believe in the game.

If one doesn't want to believe in the game, i'd assume those people to have dropped out after PSX anyway due to the shift in direction

i believe in Nomura so ill believe for now

 

[∀ Narayan]

I will just wait for the ultra complete edition.

 

[Dr. Kitty Muffins]

If each episode takes let's say 12 hours to complete, would you be upset? For a turn-based rpg that is really short. But for an action game it's about right. I wish they would clarify some things.