yeah, I'm not surprised that PS4 version is the less sold, but the game sold poorly overall.
NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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yeah, I'm not surprised that PS4 version is the less sold, but the game sold poorly overall.
Mihos
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Yes, it would have charted if multiplatform.
Based on what?
I lack the time myself, therefore I only own one console. I don't understand why you would own both if you haven't got the time to play games as much as you like.
And yet they are profitable.
1 Nintendo CLV* = X MS/Sony CLV
I'm guessing x>3 despite ninty not charging for online.
*CLV is "Customer Lifetime Value", I.e. how much each user is worth to a company in dollars, which is all any of us are to these people.
Stone Ocean
Member
If the game sold around 200k being exclusive wouldn't it be likely to sell over 300k with PS4 included? Might not have sold great because the release date was fucking stupid but charting? Possibly.
We still don't know the cutoff for the TOP10 but if it is under 400-500k then yeah it would have likely charted.
I don't understand why you would either, but I don't own both?
MisterR
Member
Based on the fact that if it sold 200k on Xbone, it should have sold at least that much on PS4 and likely more than that. Which would have charted.
Bitch Pudding
Member
CLV is Nintendo's MAU. Customer Lifetime Value makes sense for a company that's older than any of us...
The Mad Draklor
Member
To paraphrase what Kagari said some time ago, Square thought that the XBO would do a lot better than what it's doing now.
Zippedpinhead
Member
You are right yokai really should have come out summer of last year, between Pokemon games and during the summer when more children could watch the cartoon. Heck even this year if yokai and little battler experience swapped release dates and yokai was given the same marketing as it did during November it might have done better
The cartoon is on a niche cable channel, Disney XD, and it's not syndicated or on a national network like Pokemon was. It also doesn't help that it's on during the day while children are at school. I feel marketing would have been fine, if some of the circumstances were different, the game is lots of fun and my 3 year old loves the yokai exercise and anime. But he can watch it because he doesn't have school.
TLDR: missteps: they probably should have released during the summer, and maybe 1 year earlier.
not..? maybe I´m confused.. I just read this post yesterday in another thread and thought you owned both..
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=188665469&postcount=137
or did I read that post wrong?
What is this about?
I wrote that as an example what someone would say, not me personally. If you also go back more, I've mentioned on here many times about wanting to own both consoles if I had the time.
Bioshocker
Member
That's hardly the fault of Crystal Dynamics, is it?
Dash_Riprock
Member
Rumor is CD pushed for the deal so maybe it is.
mejin
Member
The whole purpose was the game to be uncharted. It was a sucess.
this isn't about anything.. I just found the post strange.. as I said I might have misunderstood that post.
12 months is no big deal if the alternative is rushing out a half baked OS + network + games. Nintendo isn't on the verge of bankruptcy.
According to the current data we have, we don't need to imagine what happened in WW market.
- For every 10 Xbone consoles sold in the US, another ~5 were sold in the entire rest of the world.
- For every 10 PS4 consoles sold in the US, another ~20 were sold in the entire rest of the world.
US:World ratio after 2 years on the market
Xbone ~ 66:33
PS4 ~ 33:66
Things can obviously change, but I don't see Xbone moving the needle much with its current offerings.
See people, Nintendo consoles can lead in multiplatform sales. Just give it a chance, and they will dazzle.
On a slightly more serious note, would these be considered good numbers for Shovel Knight (assuming that's what this is)?
I had no idea about the 30 fps lock patch being released. I hadn't even thought of the game since then.
For some reason you're insinuating that I talked about my issue with it more than once, and that my issue was false given it was a game not on XBO. Why don't you find my posts I made and tell me how you came to those conclusions.
slavesnyder
Member
Well, THEY made their money digitally. Retail is just a nice extra.
An indie developer with a boxed release? This is really something to be proud of.
This avatar adds a thick layer of dignity to your posts. You should just keep it.
All true, but the same thing can be said for top ten movies and that industry is just fine. Moreover, does it matter if kids etc are playing on tablets or phones? Will that prevent some from transitioning to CoD or 'Beth RPG' when they get a bit older?
lyrick
Member
a $60 per game price tag compared to the $0 they're accustomed to?
harrisk954
Member
Joke post? (I hope).
So the gap is clos....fuck it, lame joke.
Poor Lara, poor WiiU, poor Master Chief..oops.. Locke I mean...
Tomb Bomba was expected though, because some smart-asses with academic degree thought this moneyhat was a good idea and every average Joe knew better !
Are we at a 1mio. gap PS4-One in NA now?
Poor Lara, poor WiiU, poor Master Chief..oops.. Locke I mean...
Tomb Bomba was expected though, because some smart-asses with academic degree thought this moneyhat was a good idea and every average Joe knew better !
Are we at a 1mio. gap PS4-One in NA now?
Ghost Slayer
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Interfectum
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I'm really curious how Battlefront is going to do in December. Will Episode 7 give it legs? Does DICE have anything planned to capitalize on the movie release (new heroes, etc)?
Maybe even lower if they transition to 14/16 nm. A sub $199 model in 2016 is possible.
I'm betting a $499 VR bundle next holiday, and I'm also betting it will break records including those set by the Wii.
I think Rise of the Tomb Raider's problem is the release date as much as as the platform choice. It would have been buried by COD, Battlefront, Fallout 4, Halo 5, Assassin's Creed etc even if it was multi-platform on day one. I think if you move it to Q1 2016 it would have sold better.
Pretty good numbers for PS4 and XB1. While PS4 is doing very well XB1 has enough of a user base to where it can be profitable. Obviously you hate to lose market-share if you're Microsoft but I don't think this will change much in terms of the user experience on each.
Wii U sales obviously weren't great for November but they're pretty much riding things out until the NX launches at this point.
Pretty good numbers for PS4 and XB1. While PS4 is doing very well XB1 has enough of a user base to where it can be profitable. Obviously you hate to lose market-share if you're Microsoft but I don't think this will change much in terms of the user experience on each.
Wii U sales obviously weren't great for November but they're pretty much riding things out until the NX launches at this point.
Hehe i think you mean Force awakens
Interfectum
Member
I think that they should keep the pricetag of VR gear as low as possible, which mean keeping it as a separate bundle.
clevbrowns94
Member
Great news for PS4 and One. Sad for the Wii U, although not unexpected given that Smash came out last year and only two bombs/critically hated spinoffs came this November from Nintendo. And not to mention the NX coming likely next year giving people pause. I still think the Splat/Smash bundle was a good idea (even though it should have been $200 on Black Friday). Basically things could have been much worse without it.
Mass Effect
Member
Wow, that is a massive increase YoY for the PS4, and almost 250K over the Xbone. Guess that goes to show that having a bunch of big exclusives crowded around the holidays really doesn't matter.
CoD Xbone SKU is higher than PS4's... wonder if that's because of the PS4 CoD bundle. Wonder what the split is.
I think it's also good to see that the Xbone was still up YoY (which we knew from the MS PR, but still) even without the crazy fire sales like last year.
Wii U flat. Kind of surprised by that considering the bundle they have this year was far better than last year's. System really is done then.
CoD Xbone SKU is higher than PS4's... wonder if that's because of the PS4 CoD bundle. Wonder what the split is.
I think it's also good to see that the Xbone was still up YoY (which we knew from the MS PR, but still) even without the crazy fire sales like last year.
Wii U flat. Kind of surprised by that considering the bundle they have this year was far better than last year's. System really is done then.
Call of Duty, FIFA (in Europe), Destiny, Fallout... are killer games.
but Q4 is all that matters.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
how are the attach rates, i can't imagine they are doing super great on these consoles but maybe I'm wrong
Bloodborne is one of the best games I've ever played.
Both consoles are outpacing their predecessors in the US. Without getting into the whole console warrior argument the PS4 is the best way to play most major AAA titles, indies and niche Japanese titles. That doesn't even account for exclusives. Keep in mind that there are still about 50-60 million people who still have not upgraded from last gen.
Mass Effect
Member
I assume you mean killer exclusive game, but what do you mean by "killer?" Do you mean a massive-selling franchise, or just a highly-rated game?