I don't think there's any plausible argument for say that Microsoft will not have a new console.
At this point a new Xbox is totally expected.
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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I don't think there's any plausible argument for say that Microsoft will not have a new console.
At this point a new Xbox is totally expected.
Sidewinder
Member
Mmmh good numbers, well done 'merica!
Hydrargyrus
Member
I'm really surprised to see people expecting Scalebound to do well.
After seeing the kind of game it is, coming from Platinum... I have doubts that even in PS4 it would struggle to have decent numbers
After seeing the kind of game it is, coming from Platinum... I have doubts that even in PS4 it would struggle to have decent numbers
Um, it's big. That's all that matters really. If Microsoft can retake U.S and U.K they'll do fine. They should forget about Japan completely at this point and just focus on their strengths.
I'd personally love if they focused on North/South america the most. Europe doesn't look like it will ever be an Xbox territory
MatrixMan.EXE
Member
Edit: Damn.
90% of rudeness - 10% of decency.
Do you actually believe this? Really? You think this is all you've said? What a load of horseshit. You truly are incapable of seeing past your own damn nose. FFS. Unbelievable.
Reality is, if your a good developer, you'll never find it that hard to get a job. Even if it's just a basic one to tie you over until you find something special. Yeah it'll cause stress and worry, but the work climate isn't that bad. If you want to focus in games, then yeah, I can understand, but obviously skillsets between game dev and normal software dev are very transferable and you shouldn't restrict yourself in a tight spot.
Most of my mates are software devs, and its the same for them. That's what the climate is like in IT here, in the UK anyway.
Now I'm wondering how this has gone from devs simply being happy, to job climates.
Your really an arse. I don't believe it, I fucking know it. I'm involved in this area day to day.
keram
Member
OK, but how many times can they do that? Ignoring sales and only look at the feedback.
For a single Dev it might be true but for a company first sale numbers or profit is important, not the feedback of gamers. I'm not talking about greed for more and more profit but for at least some profit for the company to be able to continiue their work or invest in new IPs.
So maybe they can find other work, it means relocating families and a whole host of other issues that come with it. "Just move" is not always an easy solution.
jfoul
Member
Well, Max Payne 3 (Rockstar/Take-Two) was at 4 million copies sold one year after release. Alan Wake is at 4.5 million copes sold as of early 2015. Remedy definitely has a following with it's current and past IPs. It'll be interesting to see how well Quantum Break sells on Xbox One, but I think it'll definitely do well once it hits PC.
Darkstorne
Member
Your points have really been:
Getting fired is fine! No hassle, no stress, no worries! They can all get hired again in a matter of hours, just like me!
Sales in games don't matter, so long as people say nice things about them.
Developers don't care if their games sell poorly. Worst case scenario, they get a new job the very next day.
So much for going back to work...
* 9:1 digital ratio
* satisfaction (not sales) as a measure of success
* crazy view of how the industry works
* lax work ethics
Do you work for Peter Molyneux?
That's for the franchise.
We as consumers expect it. of course we do.
But why should the head of Xbox only expect it? He isnt saying it comes definitely.
Omnistalgic
Member
dude wtf? That's exactly what life is for like billions of people?
QFT leech, you are making some asinine post.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
LOL ok will try my best. I'm a happy go lucky kind of guy. Pma and all that. Genuinely Sorry if it was getting under your skin dude.
could you please get Mr. Hideo Kojima a Job then..?
MightyHedgehog
Member
Amazing numbers for current-gen Microsoft & Sony hardware platforms, anyway!
I wonder if the doubling down on core franchises and mega licenses in the midst of market contraction coupled with an increasing compression of high volume sales months indicates a long-term regression for consoles as far as sales patterns go. I mean, if next year's holiday season hogs most of the sales to the degree that they seem to have gone over the last two, where everything has further gravitated toward the final two months while stll being down YoY for software, are we seeing a return to the seasonal '70s/'80s/mid-'90s Xmas toy appeal for consoles, limiting the ability for games to sell in decent numbers anytime else? Or is this the combination of low expendable income and overpriced hardware with a generally uninterested market whose software buys are increasingly digital as well as limited to the safety of familiar brands and gameplay?
I wonder if the doubling down on core franchises and mega licenses in the midst of market contraction coupled with an increasing compression of high volume sales months indicates a long-term regression for consoles as far as sales patterns go. I mean, if next year's holiday season hogs most of the sales to the degree that they seem to have gone over the last two, where everything has further gravitated toward the final two months while stll being down YoY for software, are we seeing a return to the seasonal '70s/'80s/mid-'90s Xmas toy appeal for consoles, limiting the ability for games to sell in decent numbers anytime else? Or is this the combination of low expendable income and overpriced hardware with a generally uninterested market whose software buys are increasingly digital as well as limited to the safety of familiar brands and gameplay?
NowGamer Team ‏@NowGamer_Feed 44m44 minutes ago
Phil Spencer Basically Confirms A New Xbox Console Is Coming - http://www.nowgamer.com/phil-spencer-basically-confirms-a-new-xbox-console-is-coming/
Seems its already to late. I suppose sticking to the actual statement and not changing it to get the clicks would not be the right course of action.
ohh hmm
Is there not a lot of software houses in similar areas in America which aren't that far away from each other? The UK is pretty compact, so it isn't that much of a problem. I commute between cities for example but there's a lot of jobs in my home city.
Arrogance with ignorance is a deadly combination.
Why do you assume all these employees work with software. A large amount will be artists and game designers.
Why do you assume all these employees work with software. A large amount will be artists and game designers.
mejin
Member
So much spin. Who does he think he is? Microsoft?
I can't see why Microsoft would leave the console market after this generation. Doesn't make sense.
TrebuchetGames
Member
Life isn't that simple in game dev. Depending on your role and which country you live in, options might be restricted.
I know one guy who had to go and do labouring for about 4 months before he could get a job back in game dev. It was not a nice experience for him.
I knew another guy who was working as a QA guy after being a designer for many years, because he couldn't get a job.
I'm currently travelling about 170 miles to a gamedev job, I'm really enjoying it but thats not the point, there was nothing suitable locally to where i live.
So yeah, your reality and what is actual reality I don't think is the same.
Hold on, you are mixing up up WW and LTD sales with first month NPD sales. Neither game sold well out the gate. AW debuted at approximately 145K and MP3 did 440K.
No not yet.
Then they should word that better. Someone with twitter should ask Shu the same question. The answer will probably be "OF COURSE" and not "I expect"
That is a very, very good point. I'm referring just to devs because that's what I personally have experience in, so I can't speak for anything else.
I think it's just due to people referring to them as 'dev'.
I'm presuming it's not the same situation for others.
Thanks dude.
Stone Ocean
Member
Honey, the world isn't that simple.
My comment was about your little self summary of your comments not your self professed unparalleled experience and knowledge that makes you so qualified to tell everyone else how wrong they are. But if you want to bring it up yea that's a load of crap too. The idea that you can speak with authority for everyone's situation and experiences is so incredibly egotistical it's downright sociopathic. It's like your immune to any logic that contradicts your own preordained conclusions. The fact that you think I an the one being an "arse" would be hilarious if I didn't find it so sad.
Over 2/3rd of your post history is calling Gaf dumb/crazy/mad seems a lot closer to passive-aggression masked under a flimsy 'lol' than happy-go-lucky but whatever helps you keep the circus going.
I can be happy-go-lucky too...El oh El
SomedayTheFire
Member
Haha leeh is struggling with basic concepts here. God these threads are gold.
I find it hard to believe that you aren't being willfully obtuse about this. Can you really not see how getting fired is not a trivial matter for a lot of people? Regardless of your own experiences, surely you can understand that other people's experiences may be much different, right?
You must be one of those people who look at homeless people and think "Why don't they just get a job?" Or at underperforming lower income students and think "Well, why don't they just study more?"
"In one month, Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim is just about half a million units shy of matching Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion in lifetime sales."
Oblivion had sold 3.5 million up to that point.
Fallout 4 numbers are ~3 million. EDIT: Nevermind.
Oblivion had sold 3.5 million up to that point.
Fallout 4 numbers are ~3 million. EDIT: Nevermind.
End of summer 2009.
TrebuchetGames
Member
Yeah it's crazy. I think they are trying to squeeze every bit of profit from the PS3 now. Shame it hasn't dropped much in the last couple of years... hoping for a PS3 super slim, at least something that can be travel friendly.
slavesnyder
Member
If you are a coder, this might very well work. People who can do programming are wanted.
I guess that's what he wants to say.
Nevertheless, if you are working in any other department or job, losing your job is no pleasure, especially not if your country has no good social system.
And not thinking about those people, but instead stating that you could get a new job in a jiffy is tasteless, arrogant, elitist or whatever.
Also: Not everyone is a highflyer, there are mediocre people who work on projects. People who are not the most gifted in their core job, but very important to the team for out-of-the-box-thinking or whatever. And for those it's even harder to find a new environment where they just click.
Or just imagine you are old...
I guess that's what he wants to say.
Nevertheless, if you are working in any other department or job, losing your job is no pleasure, especially not if your country has no good social system.
And not thinking about those people, but instead stating that you could get a new job in a jiffy is tasteless, arrogant, elitist or whatever.
Also: Not everyone is a highflyer, there are mediocre people who work on projects. People who are not the most gifted in their core job, but very important to the team for out-of-the-box-thinking or whatever. And for those it's even harder to find a new environment where they just click.
Or just imagine you are old...
September 2009 with new Slim model.
I think in August the old model was cut to $299 for clean inventory.
Isn't the 9% over Fallout 3 a typo? As in, should've been 90% instead? FO3 sold 610k in its first month, FNV did 1.01 million.
I guess the "more comparable to Skyrim" is still far from its performance. 70% over FNV is 1.7 million, not anywhere near 2.8m.
I guess the "more comparable to Skyrim" is still far from its performance. 70% over FNV is 1.7 million, not anywhere near 2.8m.
The link saying it was 3.5m is dead, so yeah, you're probably right.
DarkLordMalik
Member
Any updated LTD of ToZ, DQH and Disgaea 5? What about Sword Art Online?
Creamsugar, please.
Creamsugar, please.
Of course, I feel for anyone who's in a sticky situation and I can understand peoples situations are different.
I was narrow minded due to not thinking of the more niche roles like designers, where your skills aren't as transferable. I was just referring to software engineers. Software engineers are highly sought after people though! Get yourself on linkedin, have a public profile and look after your professional image. I'm sure designers are too, but like said above, with roles which aren't as common, you'd probably have to move which is just a nightmare.
Although this is being debated, I don't ever believe that lay offs will happen because of this game and it's release. Considering it's only just released on 1/3 intended platforms.