Inferno313
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No one involved with X-Men is working on any of these movies so I have no idea what's happening in this thread.
Star Wars: The Force Awakens |OT| A New Hope
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No one involved with X-Men is working on any of these movies so I have no idea what's happening in this thread.
ANH is the definitive "saved in the edit" movie. Paul Hirsch, Marcia Lucas, Richard Chew, John Williams, Ben Burtt and the legion of ILM guys are owed heaps and heaps of credit.
Interfectum
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You ever see Breaking Bad (Ozymandias episode)? That's the director for Episode 8. Gonna be good bro.
You should see First Class and Days of Future Past. They're really fun movies.
That's cool, consider my statement redacted.
Skyball Paint
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I know, and that makes me worried. Not gonna lie, if she dies, that's bring a movie down a notch for me personally.
Boba's death in Return of The Jedi pains me still.
My point was you can get a yes man for movie three a la Brett Ratner or Richard Marquand to stick the landing because the tone and aesthetic already exists. Paint by numbers and such.
Interfectum
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I don't think she dies. There are big plans for her apparently.
Haloid1177
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But your point is inherently flawed because X3 is regarded by 99% of people as the worst X-Men film to date, meaning a yes man is not successful all the time even with solid groundwork.
dreamcastmaster
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Well, those pre titles James Bond movies are the same. Give the audience a hot right out the gate, then setup the real story.
ViewtifulJC
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still the most boring ass movie I've ever seen in the cinema
Its an in-joke with my family who saw it back in the day. Whenever we see something bad or boring, we rate it on the Bicentennial Man scale.
brandonh83
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No worries, when you have ViewtifulJC pretend like the hate is universal and it's weird hearing someone like the movie even though general consensus was positive, the reviews weren't too bad and it is one of the highest selling home releases (if people didn't like it in theaters would they buy it?)
I know he's just trying to get a rile, but I like to poke back
Sure, but comes across as well is that George Lucas also knew what he was doing, and he really was a visionary, if such hyperbole words are allowed.
Then again, he also invented the midichlorians before the first film.
ViewtifulJC
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No worries, when you have ViewtifulJC and the usual suspects pretending like the hate is universal and it's weird hearing someone like the movie even though general consensus was positive, the reviews weren't too bad and it is one of the highest selling home releases (if people didn't like it in theaters would they buy it?)
I know he's just trying to get a rile, but I like to poke back
are we talking about JW or TPM here, for the record
But X-Men Origins exist
I think, based on the other big-franchise blockbuster he just released six months ago, people can make an educated guess about how well or not he'll do. It's not "kneejerk cynicism," it's evidence-based assumptions.
That said, I didn't like Brick or The Brothers Bloom at all, but loved Looper and Rian's Breaking Bad work, so who knows.
Thankfully it's an opinion! Although lol X3 is STILL the highest grossing X-Men movie to date domestically, beating out SUPERMAN RETURNS that summer. Yes I think the bean counters will tell you getting Ratner was a SOLID WIN!
Besides I know numerous people that think the first two X-movies aged horribly and the third movie gets points for being a live-action version of the cartoon.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Ah ok, well that's a good sign since that was one of the few episodes in Season 5 I thought was good, but that's another argument for another thread
Kölsch Bloot
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Have you even read the tagged part? I'm keeping expectations low to not be disappointed.
Still super excited though, as this is going to be my first Star Wars movie I'm gonna watch in theater. ('97 born, so only 8 years old as III hit)
"I get by with a little help from my friends"
Haloid1177
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Box office numbers can make for a successful film, sure, but not a good film. No will here will question whether Episode IX will absolutely kill it at the BO, but rather if it will be a good film in the process of all that.
Interfectum
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Considering the directing of Jurassic World was great (it was the story that suffered) I don't see any reason why IX would be a bad film.
Fine Ham Abounds
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Looking forward to GAF spoiler-free impressions come Thursday. I'll get to stew over ViewtifulJC's "it was ok" for a whole day before I get to see it
brandonh83
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I don't really think you can. A movie is made by many people and there are different writers. People seemed to have the biggest issues with the script which again was written by four people and went through hell. Whatever Trevorrow did on Jurassic World isn't necessarily going to transfer over to Star Wars, it's just not that simple as so many variables are mightily in play.
Martin Campbell made Casino Royale, as well as some of the worst movies I've ever seen like Vertical Limit. So I'm not so sure you can really make an educated guess because that would require so much more knowledge and foresight than any of us here have. You can not like Jurassic World and you can even hate his directing and yet it still doesn't pave a locked path by any means toward whether or not IX will be good or bad.
Haloid1177
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I didn't think it was great, seemed like any other big budget blockbuster to me. I also really dislike the entirety of the movie though so I know I'm not looking at it objectively.
Scientist Supreme!
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I would rather have a interesting conversation about the movie.
Yeah? I think it's rather more likely that X3 stood on the shoulders of its predecessors. As a film, its quality arguably took the air out of the franchise and went on to negatively impact the bankability of the next couple of installments.
More_Badass
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Same here. Was 13 when ROTS cam out, and I had no interest in Star Wars back then. Can't wait to see this new movie in theaters
bonesmccoy
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Trevorrow manages to craft a hugely entertaining and successful blockbuster (which, note, was a reboot of a 20 year old moribund franchise), but HE'S the guy some folks are worried about.
lol, it really is not that big an effort. Using a director's past films to make educated guesses about how well he or she will fare on their future work isn't a 100 percent science, but it's often a pretty good predictor, and has been for, like, almost 100 years.
But you're right that other people do come into play and can filter out a director's weaknesses or highlight his strengths. And if Episode IX is being co-written by Rian Johnson (which isn't confirmed, but he did write the treatment and Kennedy mentioned that IX will be a very collaborative effort between Rian and Trevorrow) then I have more hope for how Trevorrow will handle that movie despite not liking JW much at all.
Well I liked MI3, Looper, and both Star Treks way more than JW, so...yes?
He can't talk about what happens inside the movie until the embargo is up.
Just like RETURN OF THE JEDI!
Working off a 10 year old dev hell Frankenstein script. I think he did damn well with what he was given.
Scientist Supreme!
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I meant your comment about "universal praise"
Haloid1177
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Return of the Jedi didn't shit on its predecessors either, something X3 most assuredly did with its treatment of what were major characters.
Why can't a movie with universal praise (Or near-universal, since no movie actually gets universal praise) have an interesting conversation about it?
Interesting conversation doesn't have to just pertain to whether a movie is good or not.
So, your argument is that Disney should intentionally invest audiences over two great films and then throw quality to the wind with the third and fuck up the bankability of future installments?
Alright.
That typically means a movie is good or semi-decent, you should always hope for some good will. I'd want that for all of my expected movies lol.
The Lamonster
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When can I get the soundtrack?
Surprisingly more excited for that than the actual film.
Surprisingly more excited for that than the actual film.
until what?
Hoping for universal praise = hoping the movie is so good everyone likes it.
You want there to be people who hate it just so you can have an "interesting conversation"?
A lot of your posts in this thread make it seem like you want the movie to be bad.
So quick recap of early impressions: mostly positive. The negatives being it is too much like Star Wars and the story may not be up to par.
I am pretty happy to hear no complaints (so far) about the acting, stupid characters, or any of the other big problems of the prequels.
I am pretty happy to hear no complaints (so far) about the acting, stupid characters, or any of the other big problems of the prequels.
Why are you even discussing with him, he just wants to troll.
Son, are you trying to put Return of the Jedi in the same category as X-Men 3?
Until he's gonna watch the movie I suppose.
Friday. And yeah, I want the score more than I want the movie. Annoyed I haven't heard many people comment on it.
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