[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up

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I wonder if Rey doesn't remember being left on Jakku? That vision must've shown her that for a reason.

Or I'm speculating something that was clearly contradicted in the film. I need to watch it again.
 
WadiumArcadium said:
Oh cool. Haven't bought the Cross Section book yet.
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neither have i. I hope my girlfriend will notice my subtle hints.

"yeah, you know, you can really tell that i have embraced this new Star Wars movie as my personal 'canon' is that i'd even CONSIDER BUYING THE LEGO SETS OR THE NEAT BOOKS THEY JUST RELEASED, which i wouldn't do for the prequels."

i'm hoping i'll be getting that Rey speeder.

almost bought this
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yesterday.

sphagnum said:
Finally back from vacation. Missed a bunch of stuff I have to catch up on (Vader Annual, Before the Awakening, etc.) but I got to see TFA twice. Good but not great movie, certainly better than some SW movies but certainly weaker than others. I love Finn, Rey's ok, Poe was good when he was there, Phasma was criminally underused. Driver as Ben was great. Event though the plot is heavily ANH redux, I didn't mind that since SW is all about poetry, but I feel like it kind of fell apart in the third act. There was definitely an extreme amount of editing done there, and I wish a lot of the concepts from preproduction and the shot list had made it in (I was so disappointed when Kylo doesn't have a scene in the Falcon cockpit and the Warhammer was totally excised from the film). The Starkiller Base raid had no tension at all since we all knew exactly how it would play out. You would think the FO would've taken some sort of lesson from the Empire and built the thermal oscillator to be a trap or had some crazy weapons or multiple shields protecting it or something.

Best part of the movie was the Force vision, especially with Ewan's brief "cameo" thrown in. Worst part was easily the destruction of Hosnian Prime due to the complete lack of a political element in the film. I flipped through the novelization and it added so much extra information about the state of galactic politics, even with the brief amount that touched on it. Very disappointed that JJ felt the need to streamline everything to placate the anti-PT crowd, and I think it's funny how many people now want there to have been more of a political aspect considering how many people complained about it before. But it definitely needs to be there, and the destruction of a Republic capital planet is such a major, galactic-history event that it's crazy how underplayed it was. Hopefully there's more going on in Episode VIII. I don't know how the FO can recoup from the destruction of Starkiller Base when they probably poured all their resources into it, considering they are only a fraction of the strength and size of the Empire. If they were logical about this, there should be some other Imperial remnant factions in Episode VIII to deal with, whether resurgent forces in the Core who had signed the Concordance or some other Outer Rim junta, as well as the survivors of the FO.
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We saw even less of Alderaan, and that must have been one of the prime supporters of the rebellion in the Senate.
Also, i think it was a quick-and-dirty way to put the resistance - once again - with their backs against the wall. They started off in a somewhat safe place, seeing as they had the backing of the republican fleet. Now they are, once again, the underdogs.
 
Fliesen said:
neither have i. I hope my girlfriend will notice my subtle hints.

"yeah, you know, you can really tell that i have embraced this new Star Wars movie as my personal 'canon' is that i'd even CONSIDER BUYING THE LEGO SETS OR THE NEAT BOOKS THEY JUST RELEASED, which i wouldn't do for the prequels."
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You'll probably still get socks.
 
George Oscar Bluth II said:
I wonder if Rey doesn't remember being left on Jakku? That vision must've shown her that for a reason.

Or I'm speculating something that was clearly contradicted in the film. I need to watch it again.
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I'm convinced Rey doesn't really remember much about her past other than being dropped off on Jakku and waiting, when in reality she was being trained by Luke (who may be her father), was present during the Knights of Ren purge, Luke and her escaped alive (she might have been the only child to), Luke decided to throw in the towel, and in order to protect Rey did a memory wipe and dropped her off on Jakku.
 
sphagnum said:
Finally back from vacation. Missed a bunch of stuff I have to catch up on (Vader Annual, Before the Awakening, etc.) but I got to see TFA twice. Good but not great movie, certainly better than some SW movies but certainly weaker than others. I love Finn, Rey's ok, Poe was good when he was there, Phasma was criminally underused. Driver as Ben was great. Event though the plot is heavily ANH redux, I didn't mind that since SW is all about poetry, but I feel like it kind of fell apart in the third act. There was definitely an extreme amount of editing done there, and I wish a lot of the concepts from preproduction and the shot list had made it in (I was so disappointed when Kylo doesn't have a scene in the Falcon cockpit and the Warhammer was totally excised from the film). The Starkiller Base raid had no tension at all since we all knew exactly how it would play out. You would think the FO would've taken some sort of lesson from the Empire and built the thermal oscillator to be a trap or had some crazy weapons or multiple shields protecting it or something.

Best part of the movie was the Force vision, especially with Ewan's brief "cameo" thrown in. Worst part was easily the destruction of Hosnian Prime due to the complete lack of a political element in the film. I flipped through the novelization and it added so much extra information about the state of galactic politics, even with the brief amount that touched on it. Very disappointed that JJ felt the need to streamline everything to placate the anti-PT crowd, and I think it's funny how many people now want there to have been more of a political aspect considering how many people complained about it before. But it definitely needs to be there, and the destruction of a Republic capital planet is such a major, galactic-history event that it's crazy how underplayed it was. Hopefully there's more going on in Episode VIII. I don't know how the FO can recoup from the destruction of Starkiller Base when they probably poured all their resources into it, considering they are only a fraction of the strength and size of the Empire. If they were logical about this, there should be some other Imperial remnant factions in Episode VIII to deal with, whether resurgent forces in the Core who had signed the Concordance or some other Outer Rim junta, as well as the survivors of the FO.
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Wait when did this happen
 
Fata1moose said:
For some reason I don't think Plagueis would control a government, at least not in the direct way Snoke does.
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what government is Snoke controlling?
He's leading an armed splinter group of the former Imperial Navy. There's no indication for any First Order bureaucrats.
 
I hope the book sort out what the reach of the New Republic is/was prior to Episode VII. At this point we don't know if it encompassed most of the galaxy like the GR and the Empire or if it was just one of many powers. I would imagine it's more the latter, since the period inbetween VI and VII is supposed to be fairly tumultuous.

It would be interesting if we saw in VIII a multi-faction war between Neo-Imperial "loyalist" forces like the FO and other juntas vs. the Republic remnants and other allied groups (Resistance, maybe Hapes Consortium? would be interesting if the Core Empire still exists as a Sloaneist/Pellaeonist "anti-hero" faction that sides with the Republic against the "terrorists" of the FO, but that seems more like something the old EU would have done).

But probably it will still end up just being Resistance vs. FO somehow.
 
EatChildren said:
I'm convinced Rey doesn't really remember much about her past other than being dropped off on Jakku and waiting, when in reality she was being trained by Luke (who may be her father), was present during the Knights of Ren purge, Luke and her escaped alive (she might have been the only child to), Luke decided to throw in the towel, and in order to protect Rey did a memory wipe and dropped her off on Jakku.
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Yep, this is what I think too. If she was present at the purge, then I can see Kylo trying to take her away to join the Knights of Ren but Luke manages to fight them off.
 
BronsonLee said:
And it's such a simple goddamn movie plot wise

Why is any of this up for different interpretations
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Because there is a TON intentionally left up to interpretation? There is no way one can see this movie without beginning to wonder and theorize over:

Who is Rey's parents?
Who dropped her off on Jakku, and why?
Where did Snoke come from and how did he seduce Ben?

These are burning questions everyone will be debating till Episode 8 releases.

WadiumArcadium said:
Rey's vision. Ewan recorded a bit and Alec Guinness' voice is used as well apparently.
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Alec Guinness said "Rey". McGreggor recorded the last like of the vision "These are your first steps...".

Ghost Obi-Wan is contacting Rey during her vision
 
EatChildren said:
I'm convinced Rey doesn't really remember much about her past other than being dropped off on Jakku and waiting, when in reality she was being trained by Luke (who may be her father), was present during the Knights of Ren purge, Luke and her escaped alive (she might have been the only child to), Luke decided to throw in the towel, and in order to protect Rey did a memory wipe and dropped her off on Jakku.
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This is pretty much what I thought happened when I watched it.
 
JTripper said:
I feel like the Mary Sue arguments against Rey would matter more if she just weren't enjoyable to watch, but the thing is, at least for me, that she was immensely enjoyable to watch interact with other characters and I think I can forgive some of the Mary Sue-ish qualities she might have. I don't necessarily disagree with those arguments, but I feel more strongly about how much I enjoyed watching her than being bothered by what her character might have been lacking.
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Pretty much this.
 
I don't think I asked this in the spoiler thread, but maybe I did. Skewer me on a lightsaber if so.

But did anyone find that the dialogue volume was low in their screenings? I found it a bit difficult to hear Leia at times, and some other lines seemed low.
 
Charles Foster Kane said:
Wow, when was the last time a movie thread got a second OT?

I don't think it's actually happened.
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When is the last movie that set up multiple mysteries that we do not learn know the answers to till the next film leaving endless debates and theorizing?

I honestly can't think of the last time.
 
Fliesen said:
We saw even less of Alderaan, and that must have been one of the prime supporters of the rebellion in the Senate.
Also, i think it was a quick-and-dirty way to put the resistance - once again - with their backs against the wall. They started off in a somewhat safe place, seeing as they had the backing of the republican fleet. Now they are, once again, the underdogs.
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Yes, and I hated that even since I was a kid. Thankfully the new canon has been treating the destruction of Alderaan with the gravity that it deserves, with the Princess Leia comic, One Thousand Levels Down, and Lost Stars all heavily dealing with it. I know why JJ did it, and I wish he had actually gone all out and just blown up Coruscant, but there needs to be more of a focus on this sort of thing or else it has no impact. There was at least some sense of surprise with Alderaan because it hadn't been done before, and because the whole movie up to that point had been driving towards getting there, but the destruction of Hosnian Prime just comes out of nowhere and lacks any feeling to it.

DiipuSurotu said:
Wait when did this happen
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Ewan's voice as Obi-Wan is heard saying "These are your first steps" during the Force vision. They also used a clip of Yoda from ESB explaining the Force. It's hard to hear over the music and sound effects though.
 
DrForester said:
Assuming TFA has major legs, I will be shocked if Episode VIII isn't pushed back to December.
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I can't see it. It has already done some filming and is in full principal photography in Jan. Movie is going to be done filming by this spring.

They openly said a big reason they are releasing it in May 2017 is to release it on the 40th Anniversary of A New Hope. Anniversary films are huge boosts, look st Skyfall.
 
Aureon said:
Oh hey, i get to spoiler tag stuff.
I'd recommend just reading it since it's what, 60-70 pages for the Rey part, but if you really want:
She's a complete loner, ignoring anyone and everyone, and a known troublemaker. Everyone knows to stay away from her, since she knows how to fight and isn't about people at the very least.
All her time is spent either salvaging or on a flight sim she recovered.
The main arc of the book is that she finds a semi-intact spaceship, and and spends months in hunger to repair it instead of asking for help.
When she fucks up and somebody notices that she's building something, and is warned about that by a caring soul, she starts to get paranoid about the lady that warned her.
They then find her ship, and propose to help fixing for a share. Complete panic ensues, and she only agrees because she thinks she'd get a knife in her back if she didn't.
The two guys that find her repeat over and over that they should get off the planet with the ship, but Rey wants to sell it to the guy-who-hands-over-portions, who'll no doubt massively undercut it, if not straight up kill and take. They explain that to her, but she doesn't care
At some point, after it has been made a big point of how dangerous the night is on Jakku, she panics at midnight and goes to check on the hidden ship, risking massive frostbite and getting eaten by worm-things. The ship is fine, nobody's there to steal it.
Next line is the ending, which is kind of a twist, if an expected one:
After they finish fixing it, and do a victory lap and landing at the city, and she refueses to get off the planet, again.. and goes telling the portion guy that she wants to sell the ship, the guys that helped her fix it, who are on board, yell "Sorry!" and take off.
A big point is made that she's not even angry. People suck anyway.
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Holy shit. She sounds nutty.

I think I saw an interview with Ridley (Or maybe Abrams) where she said she softened the character a bit. Kinda glad she did.
 
Trey
DEC. 18, 2015 05:12 PM
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Gabyskra
#StartSeraphin
DEC. 18, 2015 05:34 PM
Shanks, to continue our discussion from the other thread, I know what connects Rey being at the academy, and Kylo... The old villager at the beginning of the movie, on Jakku. He knew Kylo, he knew he was good before turning. So yeah, that was the spot.

Jay Whatever
#CLEANSLATE
DEC. 18, 2015 05:44 PM
I heard they cut off Luke's other hand and now all he does is steal donuts.

Shanks D Kowak
#ICosplayAsFlabber
DEC. 18, 2015 05:44 PM
By Gabyskra
Shanks, to continue our discussion from the other thread, I know what connects Rey being at the academy, and Kylo... The old villager at the beginning of the movie, on Jakku. He knew Kylo, he knew he was good before turning. So yeah, that was the spot.

But does he know Rey???

He was an old ally who personally knew Leia, doesn't mean he knew much else.


etiolation
DEC. 18, 2015 09:04 PM
I didn't like Kylo. At first, I thought his actor was the guy who played JP from Grandma's Boy, but that's because his character felt like that character. I think he completely changes in the next film.

Not sure about Rey's origin. I would say for sure that she was hidden away on that planet, but not by whom. The greeting between her and Leia did raise an eyebrow.

As for Luke hiding out: His two greatest mentors were both hermits. That's always how I read that, including in the EU.

Apollo
DEC. 18, 2015 11:50 PM
By Shanks D Kowak
But does he know Rey???

He was an old ally who personally knew Leia, doesn't mean he knew much else.

I'm willing to bet he was there to watch over her. Along with the scrap junker guy. Rey will probably go back to Jakku in the next film and learn the truth. I could see them saying the junker guy was trying to buy BB to keep her out of whatever was going on with the first order.

shun
#iDOLMASTER
DEC. 19, 2015 12:26 AM
I am a casual fan so bear with me...

I wonder if they will go more into depth on Han and Leia parenting for Kylo. I feel like they downplayed the relationship of a family breaking down with them saying that Snoke was the one who convinced Kylo.

I also don't understand how Kylo was so easily tempted when he was named after Ben Kenobi and was supposedly supposed to have been taught about how his uncle and grandfather really were like.

How was Luke as a teacher. These relationship questions should be addressed to see how fallible some of the original characters are.

Kylo is also very awkward. There is a difference in acting when his mask is on and off. He is a powerful character but I feel like he is really mentally weak and that is what handicapped him throughout this movie. Even if he was just in training, he still has years more experience than rey and finn. It show how much potential Rey has as character.

I wonder how Kylo looks in Episode 8. Surely he has some scars and disformation. Rey sliced his arm off, gave him deep cuts over his body and a deep cut on his face, he was also suffering blaster wounds as well.

From what I understand he's completely human right now so I wonder what happens to him. Same with finn. Finn was sliced in the back and with a weapon like a lightsaber there is no way that it is just a slight wound. He has to have had some sort of spinal or nerve damage from that. I don't buy Finn waking up from a coma good as new.


Yurt
#SoloNoiAbbiamoLaFortunaDiAmart
DEC. 19, 2015 02:16 AM
I dont like my villains as cry babies with daddy issues. He seemed like a highschool nerd who accidentally tapped into the force

Fuck this, abort...bring out Darth Maul Jr.

Also their leader is not doing it for me, he looks like your typical Men in Black extraterrestrial

so yeah, overall I wasnt feeling the darkside this time, which puts me in an awkward position. I have nobody to cheer for..

Shanks D Kowak
#ICosplayAsFlabber
DEC. 19, 2015 03:00 PM
By Yurt
I dont like my villains as cry babies with daddy issues. He seemed like a highschool nerd who accidentally tapped into the force

Fuck this, abort...bring out Darth Maul Jr.

Also their leader is not doing it for me, he looks like your typical Men in Black extraterrestrial

so yeah, overall I wasnt feeling the darkside this time, which puts me in an awkward position. I have nobody to cheer for..

I really liked him. Was a nice change to see someone battle with his goodness and want to plunge into the darkness.

Snookie was weak, but then I wonder what people thought of seeing some women playing an old wrinkly emperor in ESB. I will pass judgement on him until we actually see and know more about him.


Silky
#GnasherDizaster
DEC. 19, 2015 03:31 PM
Glad to see I wasn't the only one who didn't like Kylo. Felt like some boring spin-off character.

Fuck, there's gotta be some dope sith left. Maul didn't die after all.

Shanks D Kowak
#ICosplayAsFlabber
DEC. 19, 2015 03:39 PM
oops wrong thread

Apollo
DEC. 19, 2015 08:07 PM
Kylo isn't a sith just a Dark Side user. He's also a Skywalker and they're very emotional.

Adam Blade
#deandredoesdallas
DEC. 19, 2015 09:21 PM
Starkiller Base?

Chewbacca Han killed by the moon pasty-faced Kylo Ren?

... :3

domino
#Phantom7thMan
DEC. 19, 2015 10:48 PM
Thought it was pretty brilliant tbh. After a spotty first 15 mins where I almost fell asleep it was like a roller coaster the rest of the way.

I like that Kylo didnt come out the gate as the fully formed article. Breh clearly powerful as fuck but he also a lil emotional bitch trying to live up to a family legacy that isnt even real. Its obvious that he was lied to about how things went down in the OG trilogy and thats what turned him. He gonna boss up in the 2nd movie.

Finn was cool although they pulled a mean bait and switch on us with the marketing. Curious to see what they do with him in the 2nd movie. He's funny, pragmatic and brave. Hopefully he gets to be a Jedi too.

The old people were alright I guess. Glad Han got knocked off. Wish that Luke wouldve at least force snatched the lightsaber at the end and turned it on but that wouldve been too fanservicey I guess.

Rey was cool. I really like her costume and she pops off the screen.

Poe was great even though hes pretty much a nothing character. Oscar Isaac did great. I hope they give him a bit more in the 2nd movie. Or maybe an animated series/comic of backstory explaining why he was Leia's most trusted pilot.

BB8 was a great addition to the robots. The thumbs up had the theater dying laughing.

As far as rankings I would have it behind Empire and Revenge. Its the 3rd flick in the series I'd say that I consider good.

BertramCooper
#TheBestThingsInLifeAreFree
DEC. 19, 2015 11:41 PM
By etiolation
Not sure about Rey's origin. I would say for sure that she was hidden away on that planet, but not by whom. The greeting between her and Leia did raise an eyebrow.
I fear she might be a Skywalker (Luke's daughter, perhaps?), but I can't imagine that's actually the case, since Kylo Ren has already been revealed to be a Skywalker. That would just be way too much Skywalker family shit going on.

My friend (and others) have theorized that she was probably a young Jedi trainee that was abandoned (or hidden?) on Jakku for some reason. Perhaps by Luke. I think it's very plausible, given her existing skill set.

Gabyskra
#StartSeraphin
DEC. 20, 2015 12:46 AM


I guess that settles it.

Apollo
DEC. 20, 2015 01:37 AM
My theory is the Jedi Temple Luke was setting up was on Tatooine. He meets a woman whose father was a hermit in the desert (Obi-Wan embraced relationships in Clone Wars). He falls in love. They have a child. The temple is attacked while Luke is away. Ren kills the woman and the rest of the trainees but can't bring himself to kill his little cousin. Some one escapes with Ray and puts her into hiding.

Luke's connection to the force is severed and he goes to find away because he knows Ren and Snoke are out there. He's been asleep for years.

Shanks D Kowak
#ICosplayAsFlabber
DEC. 20, 2015 04:16 AM
Did anyone else hate the Han Solo no look kill?

Was just so out of character, and looked like they were trying to make him look cool for the fuck of it.

Prototype Viktor
#PaleSkinIsBeauty
DEC. 20, 2015 05:56 AM
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Elchele
DEC. 20, 2015 07:58 AM
By Shanks D Kowak
Did anyone else hate the Han Solo no look kill?

Was just so out of character, and looked like they were trying to make him look cool for the fuck of it.
stop hating on everything Shanks
Honestly, I hope Rey isn't a Skywalker. That family is just a fucking mess

Shanks D Kowak
#ICosplayAsFlabber
DEC. 20, 2015 12:53 PM
By Elchele
stop hating on everything Shanks
Honestly, I hope Rey isn't a Skywalker. That family is just a fucking mess

errrr, I don't hate it all.

I love it

n8
#haveyoufeltit
DEC. 20, 2015 01:01 PM
Loved it. Loved it, loved it, loved it.

There's been a number of issues bandied about with this film that I think are only exacerbated because our generation has been conditioned to be cynical fucking cunts about everything.

"It's the same plot as the old ones" - I mean, the old ones worked. People underestimate how hard a job JJ Abrams had with this film; he has to keep the 50 year olds who were there for the original trilogy happy, it has to keep this generation on the internet who fucking whine about everything and think they could do a better job and are extremely picky about what they criticise and don't, all the young kids who are coming to it new, all the fans who want to see Luke every 30 seconds and will be annoyed they haven't, all the fans who don't want any old call backs because that's nostalgia-baiting, all the social justice warriors looking to see if women and black people and aliens are well represented... and he picked the approach that worked the best: make people happy by giving them what you know makes them happy. Good shit.

"There's blood" - go watch A New Hope.

"Kylo Ren is whiny" - no, he's a character. There was more earned character development in this alone, development that Driver and Kasdan/Abrams actually earn and show you rather than just fill the gaps by telling you, than the entirety of Anakin's rise and fall and salvation (ROTJ included in that).

"Too ambiguous, we don't know how the First Order came about/Rey's back story/where Snoke came from" - and we didn't know where the Empire or its Emperor came from either. And I can bet you when you were 10, like a large population of this audience will be, you didn't give a fuck either. Not everything has to be explicitly spelled out, especially considering there's two other films and there's enough for you to infer by yourself.

Any other complaints, I'm ready to fucking bat them back. That was a Star Wars movie. For good and for bad, that was a fucking Star Wars movie.

The iconography hit all the right notes. The new characters were charming and full of personality, and the new actors - Isaac doing a lot with a little due to his fucking inherent charisma, Boyega absolutely OWNING it, Rey and Kylo both real multi-faceted and familiar takes on what we've had but Driver and Ridley are really good. They can sell you on emotion. That's perfect.

Star Wars is all about emotion. It's all about heart. It's not "fuck, let's make this completely different than what we are because it's the 21st century and people seem to care more about what happens than why or how". It's not about detachment. It's about heart.

And there's heart. Twice I cried; that fucking shot of Chewie after Han's death ended me personally, God. I knew the death was coming, but after spending time with Harrison Ford actually acting again? Just felt the lip go, lol.

The other time was when they showed R2 for the first time, and a little girl gasped and squealed. That's what Star Wars is. Unbridled enthusiasm that fucking hits everyone.

The action was great; dynamic, thrilling, accompanied with bombastic filmmaking and sensational sound design.

The music was fine; nothing stand-out but enough riffs on the old stuff that I still enjoyed it.

Acting, as I said, was great. Driver, Boyega and Ford the stand outs, and some lovely stuff from Ridley too.

Everything looked so lived in, so dirty and dusty and real. Snoke was a bit generic looking, but Maz had some real presence about her despite being CGI. Good work from Lupita.

I just... I just loved it. It felt like Star Wars, and that was enough for me anyway. Add on all the other great shit about it? Home fucking run, JJ. Home. Fucking. Run.
 
xXCrazyCostaXX said:
He was the voice that yelled rey
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WadiumArcadium said:
Rey's vision. Ewan recorded a bit and Alec Guinness' voice is used as well apparently.
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Cheebo said:
Alec Guinness said "Rey". McGreggor recorded the last like of the vision "These are your first steps...".

Ghost Obi-Wan is contacting Rey during her vision
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Sesuadra said:
read this:
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sphagnum said:
Ewan's voice as Obi-Wan is heard saying "These are your first steps" during the Force vision. They also used a clip of Yoda from ESB explaining the Force. It's hard to hear over the music and sound effects though.
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That's pretty cool! And intriguing. I'm not a native English speaker so, even though I don't watch dubbed versions, I often don't recognize actors' voices.
 
So I remembered Finn's number just for funsies (2187) and then when rewatching ANH yesterday, caught that it is Leia's detention cell number on the original Death Star.
 
with so many pages going it's hard to keep up on, what have you guys theorized on this??

Kathleen Kennedy has announced that the entire cast of The Force Awakens will return for Episode VIII.
The president of Lucasfilm has said that iconic cast members Harrison Ford, Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher will all appear in Episode VIII, as will newcomers John Boyega and Daisy Ridley.

Speaking to Bang Showbiz at the London premiere on Wednesday night, Kennedy said:

“There will be a handful of new cast members in Episode VIII but also all the cast members you see here tonight will be in it as well.”

“We're excited to get back together. We start shooting Episode VIII in January, we've been prepping the movie for the last year and (writer-and-director) Rian Johnson has been doing an amazing job,” she said.
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Han Solo is obviously flashbacks only right?? right?
 
I wanted to reply to the person in the last thread who said that Han's death was out of character. I agree. He was always known for not dying, and then he died? I mean, come on.
 
NOLA_Gaffer said:
The film is certainly good, but it's practically going down a checklist of "what makes a Star Wars movie", which is kind of a bummer.

I know folks were really down on the prequels, but I appreciated them looking and feeling a bit different for a change.
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I agree. The prequels introduced a lot of new concepts, locations, themes and imagery. This does almost nothing to further the universe. What new planets we see are carbon copies of ones we already know about.
 
Han Solo is Snoke.
 
Saw it again for the 2nd time, only real thing I didnt notice the first time (outside a bit of confusion over the stormtrooper talk) was the voice telling rey to wait.
It seemed to have the breathing device, what if the order left her there?
 
ahoyhoy said:
Lol, I love how many posts can be responded to with "You must be new to Star Wars"
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I'm not new to people overanalyzing things

Cheebo said:
Because there is a TON intentionally left up to interpretation? There is no way one can see this movie without beginning to wonder and theorize over:

Who is Rey's parents?
Who dropped her off on Jakku, and why?
Where did Snoke come from and how did he seduce Ben?
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The movie is pretty surface level with everything. It's easily digestible. The kind of questions you're proposing never even entered my mind, because to me, it's not plot relevant right now. If it is, they'll address it.
 
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