DragonSworne
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She's probably a nomad.
[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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She's probably a nomad.
Probably just your theater. First screening I thought the same but that theaters mix was all off. Second time seeing it at a different theater the sound was on point
SuperBanana
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She scratched the hundreds of days she'd been there on the wall so she did live there.
Messypandas
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they were
The gun cockpits on top and below will never make sense to me.
Don't think so since she has a marking on the wall for all the days she's been alone waiting for her parents. Thought that was a great little touch
Clearly the underlying subtext of the movie is that all Brits are evil and all Americans are good.
Everyone except Kylo Ren on the First Order side had a British accent.
Everyone except Rey on the Resistance side had an American accent.
They even made one of the heroes - a native Brit, change his accent to an American accent.
The movie was written, produced, and directed by a bunch of Americans and financially backed by an American company.
The Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution weren't enough. Americans are still taking jabs at Brits 240 years later.
Everyone except Kylo Ren on the First Order side had a British accent.
Everyone except Rey on the Resistance side had an American accent.
They even made one of the heroes - a native Brit, change his accent to an American accent.
The movie was written, produced, and directed by a bunch of Americans and financially backed by an American company.
The Boston Tea Party and the American Revolution weren't enough. Americans are still taking jabs at Brits 240 years later.
Prometheus? Hehe
as far as I understood it..yes.
The OT films carried this Brits are evil narrative as well.
Red Blaster
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i wish the film was slower placed and took its time. abrams has that rushed editing that feels like he cuts plot corners.
George Oscar Bluth II
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They auditioned John Boyega with his regular accent and it didn't work.
a lot of people including me have that feeling.
I hope so much that we will get a longer special edition..but I think the hope is lost
I wish I could see a scene with his british accent.
NekoFever
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Why? Surely it makes sense when enemies can come from any direction in space.
I guess it's limiting when having a single gunner leaves you totally undefended from the opposite direction, though. There's got to be a better way to handle that.
WadiumArcadium
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I quite like the fact we're the bad guys. Nice to have a lead with a British accent though.
Same. Hope it's on the Blu-Ray.
GeekyDad
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There were a couple of things, yeah, but considering the length of the movie, I really had no trouble overlooking the main one or two things that got rushed.
NekoFever
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It's kind of annoying how many people find these unanswered questions to be a bad thing that demand explanation, or even hold them up as plot holes - not necessarily here but in conversation with friends. It's the first movie of a trilogy. Something being unexplained could be a mystery that'll get answered later, or it could be an opportunity for you to use your goddamn imagination.
It would be a much worse movie if they had long, incongruous conversations about the minutiae of what happened over the last 30 years.
It would be a much worse movie if they had long, incongruous conversations about the minutiae of what happened over the last 30 years.
I think it's the initial frustration of waiting all this time for a sequel in this universe and having all these things teased.
hardcastlemccormick
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I loved every second of Force Awakens. It was really truly wonderful. I smiled broadly when I saw the text scroll and suddenly realized I didn't know what it would say next. I didn't stop smiling until the very end. So much left to the viewer to parse and imagine, so many mysteries to ponder. It also nailed being a new generation of Star Wars while fitting neatly into the series as a whole. Loved it.
My only bad experience was the woman sitting next to me bleating to her friend any time there was a Kylo Ren family reference, "Wait he's WHOSE father?!" and "None of this makes ANY sense!"
It's like the least complicated plot point in the film, but apparently someone will get loudly confused without a genealogy report.
I might have to see it in IMAX.
My only bad experience was the woman sitting next to me bleating to her friend any time there was a Kylo Ren family reference, "Wait he's WHOSE father?!" and "None of this makes ANY sense!"
It's like the least complicated plot point in the film, but apparently someone will get loudly confused without a genealogy report.
I might have to see it in IMAX.
There's a difference between "mystery to be solved later" and "thing that should have been dealt with". Rey's heritage, Snoke's identity and goals, and what caused Ben to turn to the dark side are the former, what the political state of the galaxy is and how Maz got Anakin's lightsaber are the latter (unless there's some big mystery attached to that, which I doubt).
Part of me hopes so but I've accepted his death.
It makes his character more tragic. He survived a bounty on his head by Jabba the Hutt, he survived Life Day on Chewbacca's home world, Boba Fett hunting him down and his getting frozen in carbonite, only for him to let his guard down due to trying to reach out to his own son.
It's actually a good way to go out and goes back to Han being a 'rogue with a heart of gold.'
I almost think Han Solo showing up in Kylo Ren's mind during flashbacks or even a proxy-Force ghost would work too for me in Episode 8.
I would really want to see a lightsaber duel between Leia and Kylo Ren but that will never happen.
infinityBCRT
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Everyone who has questions about stuff that happened between Episode 6 & 7 should really read this recap of the Journey to the Force Awakens EU stuff:
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-journey-force-awakens-guide/2/
It answers why the Rebellion & Empire becomes the Republic, Resistance and First Order. Also goes into some interesting stuff about Poe's background.
http://screenrant.com/star-wars-journey-force-awakens-guide/2/
It answers why the Rebellion & Empire becomes the Republic, Resistance and First Order. Also goes into some interesting stuff about Poe's background.
GeekyDad
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It was good and bad for me. Some of it was absolutely stunning, in-your-face, and exciting, but then other scenes had a lot of ghosting. Overall, I'm glad my first screening was in IMAX 3D, but I'm ready for the next time just no-frills.
there's clearly some sort of artificial gravity in there.
the gravity inside the gun turrets is oriented in a way as if the falcon was standing upright, on its exhaust.
The cross-sections of Rey's speeder show that there's even tractor beams underneath the seat, to keep the rider from falling off
NekoFever
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Haha, it made me laugh when Snoke said (quoting from memory) "The Millennium Falcon is in the hands of your father, Han Solo." It was a bit on the nose when "The Millennium Falcon is in the hands of your father." followed by a cut to Han Solo in the cockpit would have been just as good. But apparently even spelling it out like that isn't enough for some people.
Future PhaZe
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very likely
Did anyone else get "bad" vibes during The Jedi Steps when it focuses on Luke? It goes from the generally mysterious to a sort of dark tone that I normally would have associated more with the Empire or the Sith. Actually, IIRC, one of the trailers/tv spots used that particular part of the music while focusing on Kylo Ren on the bridge of the Finalizer watching the Starkiller fire.
hardcastlemccormick
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The political state of the galaxy was vaguely established but wasn't really important at all. The lightsaber could be summed up as "Maz had an adventure" which is fun to imagine. It's a very simple gap to fill in your mind.
I don't think I'd want to see it in IMAX 3D. IMAX 2D would suffice. I just want those great big vistas and detailed action scenes on a screen that can show them.
I specifically remember this woman going "huh what?" after Snoke said that. The whole goddamn movie, up until maybe the bridge scene.
WadiumArcadium
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Yeah, they used Jedi Steps in the 60 second TV spot. It definitely felt a little dark to me when she's climbing the steps. I knew what was coming but it still seemed pretty tense.
Why? Rogue One takes place 30-ish years prior to ANH and it's more likely that everyone in RO dies, if anything, considering it's about the Rebels who steal the Death Star plans. Vader probably shows up at the end and slaughters them all.
gutter_trash
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thanks guys!! this is an awesome watch with Sunday morning coffee.
the Lucas bits, hahahahaha
Not likely at all since it was made clear by George that these standalone films don't cross over into the sequels
I'm really not looking forward to that story since we all know how it went down and I don't see how it deepens the mythos. Seems like a waste of time.
That EW article about the Yoda/Obi Wan cameos in the flashback mentions they'll have another article later today with JJ Abrams commenting on R2's awakening at the end of the film.
Hopefully that should settle a lot of the discussion in this thread. Surely it's got to be to do with Rey turning up at that point.
Hopefully that should settle a lot of the discussion in this thread. Surely it's got to be to do with Rey turning up at that point.
SenorPopOff
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I don't feel that way. There were just as many mysteries in the original film that weren't answered till later.
Only thing you listed that I felt should have been clarified is the political state of the galaxy.
BruceLeeRoy
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Man that was such a good movie.
Can't stop thinking about it.
Can't stop thinking about it.
That's a cop out explanation to me. Even though these films are part of a franchise, they need to stand on their own merits, especially since so much time has passed since ROTJ and TFA is the first part of a new trilogy. To have so many unanswered questions be explained with "wait till Episode 8" or "read this website for the explanation" is unsatisfactory and reveals deficiencies in the film's script.
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Everyone dies..in a star wars movie? I don't think so. Main character lives. I am sure.
Pai Pai Master
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That stupid scene inside the millennium Falcon with the Tentacle aliens felt like it belonged in abrams trek, not this Star wars. I would have preferred more screen time for Captain Phasma over that time waster. Like how did she get wasted so badly?
Roude Leiw
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same here. and the kids sitting infront of me were really quiet an enjoyed the movie. Thanks!
Saw it, loved it. Only two main issues, which have been repeated a million times:
1 - Lame that there's yet another super weapon that needs destroyed. I feel like this has been done a million times in a million movies.
2 - lightsaber combat. Maybe my view here is "tainted" by the expanded universe books, but there's just no way either Finn or Rey could compete against someone who has been trained in lightsaber combat, even if Kylo still needs training. Why wouldn't Kylo force push/choke either of them during their duels?
Anyway, these are minor annoyances in an otherwise great movie, and a worthy reboot of the franchise. Wish it had more Luke though!
1 - Lame that there's yet another super weapon that needs destroyed. I feel like this has been done a million times in a million movies.
2 - lightsaber combat. Maybe my view here is "tainted" by the expanded universe books, but there's just no way either Finn or Rey could compete against someone who has been trained in lightsaber combat, even if Kylo still needs training. Why wouldn't Kylo force push/choke either of them during their duels?
Anyway, these are minor annoyances in an otherwise great movie, and a worthy reboot of the franchise. Wish it had more Luke though!
It ought to be extremely important though and that's the problem. This is Star Wars and wars have consequences. I disagree with this whole notion that SW should skip over politics. The OT could get away with that because of the simple set up - Rebels vs. Empire - but the situation is more complex than that now and that needs to be addressed. The prequels were right to bring politics more into the mix.
As for the lightsaber, I guess it just comes down to opinion. For me it's more fun to know at least the basic details. Han winning the Falcon from Lando in a game of sabacc is more interesting that "He stole it, that's all you need to know!" for example. I was greatly relieved when they at least gave a very brief explanation of how it got on Jakku and how Han found it since that was something we all pondered over for months due to the shot list not containing dialogue.
Anyway, I noticed two things that Kylo said on my second viewing that I hadn't noticed the first time around. First thing was that when he's talking to the Vader helmet he says "Show me again the power of the darkness", which implies he believes he has communicated with Vader before. Since Vader is obviously now Anakin, is Snoke somehow manipulating him into believing he has experienced something else? I know some of the concept art showed Hayden phasing in and out of Anakin and Vader, so maybe it's a leftover from that?
Also when he's interrogating Rey, there's very blatant foreshadowing that she is having dreams of Luke that I didn't pick up before. "At night...when you're desperate to sleep. You dream of an ocean. I see the island."
dripdripsplash
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Anyone else that the name "Snoke" sounds kinda silly. Like a little too cartoon villain-like
WadiumArcadium
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Oh, so they used Alec's line from when he says "afraid".
Another interesting bit on the questions still to be answered, such as who Rey's parents are.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/20/jj-abrams-reveals-obi-wan-and-yoda-are-star-wars-force-awakens
Another interesting bit on the questions still to be answered, such as who Rey's parents are.
http://www.ew.com/article/2015/12/20/jj-abrams-reveals-obi-wan-and-yoda-are-star-wars-force-awakens
Most will I'm sure. I'm hoping the ending of RO will have them ambushed by Vader alone and killing everyone and credit rolls without any music.
That difference being entirely your own preference, not what the story actually calls for.
If Rey's parentage and Snoke's agenda and Kylo Ren's turn to the dark side are larger plot points, then there's no need to "deal with them" now.
DiipuSurotu
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Isn't it a bit strange that Unkar Plutt just kept the creatures in the Falcon there, presumably feeding them for months/years, but not selling them? They seemed like they'd be worth a lot of money.
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