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No, because fanboys are bitter and jump into bandwagons.
Missed fanwank opportunities:
1. When the pirates boarded Han's flying zoo ship, he should have gunned the guy down mid sentence.
2. When the super duper mega death star of death destroyed Coruscant, Jar Jar should have been front and center looking at the approaching red beam going 'WHATSADAT!?!?!' before being annihilated.
1. When the pirates boarded Han's flying zoo ship, he should have gunned the guy down mid sentence.
2. When the super duper mega death star of death destroyed Coruscant, Jar Jar should have been front and center looking at the approaching red beam going 'WHATSADAT!?!?!' before being annihilated.
Kor of Memory
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It's kind of funny to me to think that Anakin's light saber is supposed to be some sort of historical relic handed down with a purpose...
Especially after they make it a point in the PT that he loses them all the time, and has to make replacements.
The hilt Luke inherited just happened to be the last one Anakin made before losing his shit.
There are probably 3 or 4 other hilts made by Anakin somewhere in the galaxy.
Especially after they make it a point in the PT that he loses them all the time, and has to make replacements.
The hilt Luke inherited just happened to be the last one Anakin made before losing his shit.
There are probably 3 or 4 other hilts made by Anakin somewhere in the galaxy.
UltimaPooh
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Well he still reaches out to Anakin despite Anakin killing Obi Wan as well as ordering the killing of Uncle Owen.
Haha, that's pretty fucking awesome. I'm really excited to see his film.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Wasn't that straight up fake?
Inferno313
Banned
JJ made similar comments about the prequels all through the press for this movie. Neither of them are going to badmouth the previous films in the series, and also, he's not totally wrong. I think the big picture of the prequels is largely pretty good, it's the minute-by-minute execution that Lucas continuously fumbled.
brandonh83
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Of course, it's meant to be the future and perhaps that's what Kylo saw. But canon wise, every single vision someone has involved people they're related to. Anakin with Shmi and Padme. Luke with Leia on Cloud City. And now Rey with Luke.
I'd imagine Kylo has always been a dark child. Han and Leia saw this, and thought Uncle Luke could guide him, to control his emotions and his ability.
I can easily see that Kylo was in class, envious of the attention his fellow pupils received, particularly a certain girl who was exceptionally gifted.
The voices in his head got worse, and along came Step-Dad Snoke. Kylo abandoned his uncle and ran off to the Knights of Ren. Brainwashed with the dark side, and his grandfather's legacy, he returned to the Jedi academy and slaughtered all who were there. Luke was off world at the time, making sure his daughter was safe...
Arkos
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Re: Kylo Ren's dark side progression
Even if Ren did murder some of Luke's students (I think it's more likely that Luke slowly "lost" him), he became a "Ren" by being affiliated with something called the Knights of Ren, which presumably took a while after he split from Luke. So it's not like a "Henceforth you shall be known as Darth Vader" situation. This dude underwent a process of pursuing the dark side, a pursuit he is still trying to (maybe successfully) finish in the film. It's no overnight change with this one.
Even if Ren did murder some of Luke's students (I think it's more likely that Luke slowly "lost" him), he became a "Ren" by being affiliated with something called the Knights of Ren, which presumably took a while after he split from Luke. So it's not like a "Henceforth you shall be known as Darth Vader" situation. This dude underwent a process of pursuing the dark side, a pursuit he is still trying to (maybe successfully) finish in the film. It's no overnight change with this one.
Reading JJs comments today there is definitely no doubt Kylo/Bens arc is about the evolution of a villain, he talks about one of the interesting things about this was how someone who is in the process of becoming evil comes that way, rather than already being a big bad evil character off the bat.
Im less convinced we are going to see as much questioning from Kylo in episode 8, hell double down.
Im less convinced we are going to see as much questioning from Kylo in episode 8, hell double down.
Yeah it'd be pretty great if that trilogy was 6 minutes long.
GustyGardens
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There was a more elaborate version that was deemed fake, but apparently got some details correct. This information comes from an article I read on /Film earlier this morning mind you.
http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-questions/
No, not at all. For example, the Darth Maul battle feels awkward because it's completely unconnected to the other battles going on. Maul being defeated really doesn't matter for defeating the Trade Federation.
Hmm fair enough, I could see it happening that way.
PHOENIXZERO
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I doubt he's going to have enough stroke to steer away from what Lucas Films already has mapped out, he'll be working within those kind of constraints. But maybe though I wonder how much was lost in editing.
I have a feeling an "extended edition" of TFA will come out at some point, maybe just before EPVIII is released.
Sith and Dark Jedi didn't have access to the organic crystals Jedi used for their lightsabers, theirs are artificially made and for whatever reason red is the only color they come in.
Been there, theorized this. Rey being a product of Luke and their Mara Jade analog, she gets killed during Ben's uprising, assuming she and Luke were there, for whatever reason Luke decides their daughter needs to be hidden away, entrusts allies (like the old guy who had the map piece) to hide her away where even he couldn't find her and gives her a Jedi mind wipe/brain washing. Leaving a cause of drama when Rey remembers.
Or they potentially go more Revan with it. I'm not writing this out as well as I did in the first topic or the times after in this one...
But we dont know what planets for sure...do we?
Same reason we all joked Frodo should have tossed the ring down into the depths of Moria. The Force gon find you yo.
Then he returns as a Ghost Force and begins laughing.
Joe Shlabotnik
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I think this is all true and super-important, and people are understandably projecting Vader's status and power and experience onto him.
He's not a Sith or anything yet. He's very powerful with the Dark Side but not fully trained or experienced or disciplined or completely sure of himself. It's really important that Snoke says it's time to complete his training.
Looked to me in that rain flashback, they were surrounded by bodies. I assumed the Knights of Ren came back and murdered most of the other students.
I see Kylo Ren developing into real out of control villain, beyond the logic and politics. The serial killer of Star Wars who makes everybody (including Snoke sometimes later) scared of him and the lack of predictability for his actions. It surely has the psychological profile for that.
And from this point of view whatever better instinctual use of the Force Rey has now is not that important in the great scheme of things because she will not be able to match his insanity, as long as she plays by the rules of the Light.
So I expect a dark episode VIII.
And from this point of view whatever better instinctual use of the Force Rey has now is not that important in the great scheme of things because she will not be able to match his insanity, as long as she plays by the rules of the Light.
So I expect a dark episode VIII.
Yoda has all kinds of premonitions.
Thewonandonly
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So I really really loved this film and have seen it four times already. I'm in the process of watching the OT but I have a few question. What books should I read that are canon? Should I watch the PT even tho I don't want to. Can I watch clone wars without watching the PT and is it worth it. Thank you.
Not even a little. TFA established it characters far better.
You could argue the TPM ending was better shot, but that's it.
Good Job Bob
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Disney obviously keeps these guys on a very tight leash, why else do you think Whitta went back and deleted all of the negative comments he made about the PT?
TestMonkey
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Just got back from the movie. Watching the movie was fun. After I started processing it though it fell apart in my mind. Biggest disappointment is that Kylo Ren makes me feel sorry for the Sith. Vader lost because he was holding back and wanted to lose. Kylo Ren first gets shot by a wookie, can barely defeat a non-force user and then gets handled by a n00b.
I guess the attack on Starkiller base just felt so perfunctory to me. There was not tension, like it was on auto pilot. The trench run in ANH still makes my palms sweat.
So long as we established that the robe issue wasn't a PT issue.
Nonetheless if they made it up as they went along, OT was basis for everything. It seems like you may just not be a fan of the series now when looking back at it all.
You don't want to? Then don't watch it. If you watch a movie with a negative attitude you will end up like a lot of people around here.
More_Badass
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The PT did that. The OT and Kenobi made it seem like a heirloom with a lot of history
shortsFortallPeople
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people keep saying that extended edition is coming.
I dont see it coming.
not sure where this sentiment is coming from. Disney has one Star Wars movie in production and another one is about to start production. I dont see them tinkering with JJ's movie, especially since JJ doesn't dabble with extended cuts or anything like that
I dont see it coming.
not sure where this sentiment is coming from. Disney has one Star Wars movie in production and another one is about to start production. I dont see them tinkering with JJ's movie, especially since JJ doesn't dabble with extended cuts or anything like that
brandonh83
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Yeah, it doesn't work like that. They weren't going to deny the offer if he said he didn't like them. Hell JJ doesn't and I doubt too many in that circle would mind if a director doesn't like those movies. After all according to some, nobody does.
I don't relate those to personal visions. Most Jedi probably see shit, but not necessarily things like someone else's future. If they could imagine what may have been prevented.
Dude I totally wondered if that was Coruscant! Lol that would be too crazy if it was and just non-nonchalantly disappeared like that. But it looked just like it.
Was about to say this. Another inaccurate piece of information about PT.
Also, George is the SW source, can't put your own assumptions above his.
There wasn't really any tension in the battles at the end of The Phantom Menace either.
Maul could either use a single side or turn both blades on. In the comics and then the Clone Wars cartoon/series, Ventress had the rad set of curved sabers which could join together and form a double-sided joint.
Anyway, got my Dad's review of the movie. Pretty awesome: "...Han Solo has a son. Don't remember that - must have missed an episode - but he's in the force and is a real piece of work. And there's a girl, don't know who she belongs to, but she's in the force, too. The new seats are nice but the heat was blowing right down on me. It was alright."
Inferno313
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No way.
One of the things I think TFA does better than any previous movie in the series hands-down is it's cinematography. This is easily the best shot film in the series.
So the PT aren't bad movies with convoluted plots, bad acting, bad writing, unrelatable characters and bad cg?
If you are watching the clone wars I would just watch the PT, at least that way the clone wars sort of makes episode 3 better.
Exactly. Love it when people try to pull what Star Wars "should be" out of their asses. Like if their headcanons have more weight than the creator's ideas.
Arkos
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Wait, they're siblings!? Oh man my Skywalker-Organa fanfic is gonna need an overhaul
Inferno313
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One of them is (AOTC), another one is a mediocre kids movie, and another one is an ok Star Wars movie.
They're simultaneously not very good, but not worthy of the scorn they get.
VincentMatts
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Did you happen to notice how strong the wookies gun is when Han is using it? Anyone who gets shot is going to struggle i dont care who he is, let alone from that type of gun.
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