ClosingADoor
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I don't remember anything wrong about it or any other CGI. Maybe it's more clear in the 3D version or something, I saw it in 2D. Or I'm more easily satisfied. It certainly didn't take me out of the movie.
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[SPOILERS] Star Wars: The Force Awakens (Thread #2) - One Thumb Up
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His father appeared to forgive him before he fell. Why can't we, and the rest of the TFA heroes as well?
Did you have your Captain Crunch 3D glasses on during a 2D movie?
Chuckie
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Instead we got a character that is a thousand times more interesting and doesn't get cut in half at the end of the movie.
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I saw it in 2d and Maz and Snoke looked bad. Faces are made to be overly expressive, looked like there were no muscles under the skin, just a moving mouth causing the skin to stretch. I didn't know Serkis was in this but Snoke made some pouty face and I immediately recognized it was Serkis, he always over acts. If his CG characters were realistic he wouldn't have to over act, but he always does.
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Oh yeah, Chewie must get shot cause we have to show Rey can co-pilot the falcon. "Out of the way Chewie!". It was kind of weird when she just flew it.
More_Badass
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ProudCanuck
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I saw the movie a second time and yes. Rey's face DEFINITELY turns into Snoke's in the half a second when Rey is coming after her in the dream sequence in the rain
Exactly. I think Kylo was a great villain, standing out like crazy against recent Hollywood baddies.
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Yeah it goes in line with the idea that the guy who gets killed tried to club her. Maybe she was under control by Snoke and killed some of those people.
It looked very cartoony. Like they were using old techniques to create CG characters.
Frustrated_me
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Nobody is saying this, don't derail this thread into something it's not.
CloudyTuba
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Can't something just be cool without everyone accusing it of being a decadent reflection of consumerism?
Should everything in the movie just be really straightforward and boring? Should Kylo have just worn a box on his head?
I feel bad for the artists when they read comments like these, which are frequent. Sure the moneybags in charge are in it for the cash, but the artists are trying to make something cool, right? They would have designed something fun whether toys were a factor or not.
That's looking at extremes. I didn't like Maul at all. For TFA, I just wanted a villain that cried a lot less. Hard for me to take him seriously in that mask/outfit when I know he's quakin in his boots the whole time. Love his sword, but he needs to pass that on to someone more deserving.
Ignatz Mouse
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This wasn't really worth a new thread, but I found it share-worthy. My wife is home with the kids today, and was watching Phantom Menace with them in the wake of their TFA excitement.
It was though. Baton Stormtrooper, Chewie's Bow Gun, Rey's Easy Bake Bread, Phasma, etc... Were all very toyetic.
Has there been proof in the past that Double J can get great performances out of wooden actors?
ProudCanuck
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the biggest question: Would Hayden Christian's acting have improved had he been directed by JJ Abrams?
CloudyTuba
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No fun allowed.
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Looked like Antz
Yeah I didn't reply to that drive-by shooting post. Not everything is about gender wars.
Everyone sucked under Lucas. I don't think he would have been good enough in Kylo's role compared to Driver. Driver nailed it.
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Has there been proof in the past that Double J can get great performances out of wooden actors?
Calamari41
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Just the act of not having him show anger with high pitched screaming, like a tantruming four year old, would have done absolute wonders for the character.
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ReadingRambo
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Absolutely. The prequels had a-list actors in it and none of them save McDiarmid gave a decent performance. Christensen is not a bad actor.
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VisceralBowl
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I'm not a fan of the movie. It was good but not what I wanted.
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Lucas is a notoriously bad actor director.
Me and my wife saw it again yesterday afternoon, and I think I enjoyed it more the second time around. I picked up on a lot of little bits of story and dialogue that I missed the first time around.
There are a lot of little bits of detail and backstory and conflicts that are explained in one or two lines of dialogue or an exchange, or even a glance. What I like a lot about this movie is that it shows you more than it tells you (there is still plenty of exposition dialogue, but a lot of the little stuff is left for you to pick up on through context and just inferring things).
I finally heard Obi-Wan's lines after Rey's vision. I was listening for it the first time, but I was so caught up in the images and the mood that I missed it. I also finally made the connection between Ben probing Rey's mind and mentioning the ocean and the island. I didn't think much of it the first time I heard it.
I was on the fence about Rey being a Skywalker, or Luke's daughter, but now, more than before, I'm heavily leaning towards her being one. There is just so much pointing at her being a Skywalker, and sometimes, what it seems like it is, is exactly what it is. Ford's approach to Han reminds me a lot of Alec Guiness' approach to Obi-Wan. The way he sizes Rey up, the look he gives her when she says she didn't know there was that much green in the galaxy; it reminds me so much of the looks Guiness would give Luke in A New Hope. George may not have known that Vader was Luke's father at the time of A New Hope, but Guiness played it so well that rewatching it, you distinctly get the impression that he was ahead of Lucas, and added that extra bit of "knowing" in Obi-Wan's interactions with Luke.
I'm also leaning more towards Finn being force sensitive. Being Force sensitive doesn't mean you are going to become a Jedi. The Force awakening doesn't have to exclusively apply to our pretty little white savior Rey. I think, going forward, we are going to see a lot more force sensitive characters in episodes 8 and 9. Major characters, and supporting characters. I feel this way about Finn, because of Maz's constant urging of Finn to use the lightsaber. When he says he needs a weapon, and Maz says, "You have one," and the looks she gives him imply that she knows more about him than him just being an awol Stormtrooper. She seemed to know that he would be able to use the lightsaber in some capacity. He very well could be just a guy, but I don't think so. He may not be as in tune with the Force as Rey, but Maz reminded us, the audience, that the Force is in all living things, whether you are aware of it or not. I think Finn will manifest more force potential in the next movies.
I've listend to the soundtrack a few times in isolation, and then listening to it again while watching the movie; it's a beautiful score. It's grown on me significantly. Lots of little pieces, big and small, really stood out to me this time around. The Millennium Falcon escape from Jakku is still the most exhilarating set piece in the movie, and Rey force pulling the lightsaber at the end still gives me goosebumps.
My wife wants to see it for a third time. lol. So do I.
There are a lot of little bits of detail and backstory and conflicts that are explained in one or two lines of dialogue or an exchange, or even a glance. What I like a lot about this movie is that it shows you more than it tells you (there is still plenty of exposition dialogue, but a lot of the little stuff is left for you to pick up on through context and just inferring things).
I finally heard Obi-Wan's lines after Rey's vision. I was listening for it the first time, but I was so caught up in the images and the mood that I missed it. I also finally made the connection between Ben probing Rey's mind and mentioning the ocean and the island. I didn't think much of it the first time I heard it.
I was on the fence about Rey being a Skywalker, or Luke's daughter, but now, more than before, I'm heavily leaning towards her being one. There is just so much pointing at her being a Skywalker, and sometimes, what it seems like it is, is exactly what it is. Ford's approach to Han reminds me a lot of Alec Guiness' approach to Obi-Wan. The way he sizes Rey up, the look he gives her when she says she didn't know there was that much green in the galaxy; it reminds me so much of the looks Guiness would give Luke in A New Hope. George may not have known that Vader was Luke's father at the time of A New Hope, but Guiness played it so well that rewatching it, you distinctly get the impression that he was ahead of Lucas, and added that extra bit of "knowing" in Obi-Wan's interactions with Luke.
I'm also leaning more towards Finn being force sensitive. Being Force sensitive doesn't mean you are going to become a Jedi. The Force awakening doesn't have to exclusively apply to our pretty little white savior Rey. I think, going forward, we are going to see a lot more force sensitive characters in episodes 8 and 9. Major characters, and supporting characters. I feel this way about Finn, because of Maz's constant urging of Finn to use the lightsaber. When he says he needs a weapon, and Maz says, "You have one," and the looks she gives him imply that she knows more about him than him just being an awol Stormtrooper. She seemed to know that he would be able to use the lightsaber in some capacity. He very well could be just a guy, but I don't think so. He may not be as in tune with the Force as Rey, but Maz reminded us, the audience, that the Force is in all living things, whether you are aware of it or not. I think Finn will manifest more force potential in the next movies.
I've listend to the soundtrack a few times in isolation, and then listening to it again while watching the movie; it's a beautiful score. It's grown on me significantly. Lots of little pieces, big and small, really stood out to me this time around. The Millennium Falcon escape from Jakku is still the most exhilarating set piece in the movie, and Rey force pulling the lightsaber at the end still gives me goosebumps.
My wife wants to see it for a third time. lol. So do I.
Gnome Scat
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Hey don't talk shit about Easy Bake Bread, that was cool. The rest I can agree with, although Chewie's bow gun is a classic.
Bedameister
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What did you want?
Calamari41
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The easy bake bread scene bothered me because the stuff is clearly precious, yet she spilled a bunch of powder out the side of the bowl while pouring it in.
I hope we'll see a powerful scene like this one in the next movie.
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ReadingRambo
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After the second viewing the soundtrack has really grown on me (as any good score does). No, it isn't as bombastic as some of Williams's work on the older films, but it is more nuanced and emotional without beating your brains out with it.
ElBoxyBrown
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I love how Kylo Ren tried to be threatening to Hux and he was like "Bitch please. You ain't my boss."
He'd atleast be directed by someone who has a stronger grasp on how humans act and how to instill some level of charm...
Frustrated_me
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I hope the training scenes don't dominate the movie. Hell I hope there aren't any training scenes at all, and we get a time skip. I don't want another rehash of the OT.
So Finn will be the Babidi of the Star Wars universe?
Starsailor
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Don't be a hater, son.This guy
CloudyTuba
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In the Art Of book, they actually refer to her character in early form as Yoda. Not literally meant to be Yoda himself, but that's how they labelled it haha. They knew what they were doing.
Starsailor
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Well Michael Emerson is amazing so...
Yeah its been an on running joke that Chewie is a big baby in the films. Liked that reference.
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CloudyTuba
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Chances are expected to be zero.
You just have to hope they include deleted stuff in a finished state on the bluray so that someone can make a fanedit out of it.
I don't think they'll ever do a proper extended cut. Because it could potentially mess with the canon. We'll definitely see all the deleted scenes though.
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