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[excelsiorlef]

Your misunderstanding, of course Luke is important he is LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER. What I'm getting at is that it's never explained why he s important right NOW. Everyone wants to find him NOW, especially the RESISTANCE, as if finding him will somehow change the tide of the conflict which also subtly implies he's not paying attention to the state of the galaxy. In ANH the central premise is clear from the get go, get the Death Star plans to the REBEL ALLIANCE. Why? Because the Death Star is the newest ultimate weapon that can change the entire tide of the war and destroy the rebels once and for all. Everything in ANH revolves around this premise finally building up to the actual attack on the Death Star.

In TFA we are told that the RESISTANCE has found a map leading to Luke who they've been searching for, why is he important right now? We don't know. These plans are eventually given to the RESISTANCE who tell everyone that it's just half a map so whatever, I guess we shouldn't have even tried. And then all of a sudden we are attacking the Death Star 3.0. The central premise/plot does not flow organically as it does with ANH. The search for Luke is totally unconnected to the discovery and swift destruction of Starkiller Base.

They want to find him so do The First Order. A clue comes up, both sides go for it. It's the new clue that starts everything.

It isn't so much right now as they've akways been looking and this is the closest they've got and now it's a race because the First Order is on the sent too.

This isn't complicated stuff

And the Starkiller shit happens because Ren fails to secure the map and they're basically willing to go nuclear to stop the Resistance from getting to him.

They're terrified of Luke.

They make a huge deal that neither Starkiller attack was their plan A.

 

[Brakke]

But could you imagine if they did blow up Coruscant, they'd probably get shit for it considering the planet itself doesn't fucking matter it's who is on that does.

I mean fuck ST 09 pisses me off because they in one movie blew up Romulus and Vulcan which especially in light of Into Darkness meant fuck all. Total waste.

Yo totally true. JJ Abrams just doesn't know how to blow up a planet right lol.

 

[Ishida]

http://www.slashfilm.com/star-wars-the-force-awakens-questions/

This was helpful.

Mmhh.. Something's not clear for me about this:

C-3PO: The protocol droid has been with Leia pretty much since childhood (give or take a few years)

If 3PO has been with Leia since childhood... How can he not recognize her in Episode IV? Did he get his memory erased AGAIN?

 

[BocoDragon]

You're the one who literally just advocated for Luke to come out of nowhere and be the hero in the climax of a film centered around finding him.

That's not organic.

Come out of nowhere? No. The script should be structured to logically lead to Luke appearing at a high point of the film. Just as how they introduced Han at the 1/3rd point, introduce Luke in the climax of the film, let him kick a little ass, and give him some short interaction with the main cast, so we care about him for legitimately heroic reasons, not just cashing in on cultural legacy.

The way it was, he was tacked on the end like Nick Fury coming along to give Tony Stark a job for the next movie. And non-nerd significant others everywhere were like "who is that old guy??" because the film doesn't really tell them why they should care.

And what a fucking cynical pov. The Luke scene was not to sell fucking toys.

It was a metaphor. Luke is placed at the end purely in a "see you next movie!" kind of teaser. It had the weight of a trailer announcing a new Smash Bros character.

This is partly true but your sentiment that Luke was in the last scene to sell toys makes no sense. It was the payoff. If that scene wasn't in the film and didn't happen the way it did, the film would've been terrible. Luke couldn't show up and save the day earlier because that would've been really stupid and made a terrible screenplay.

It was a metaphor.

 

[Dhruv_hanom]

I mean, they only need one star per system in terms of a power source. Maybe the entire planet was capable of FTL travel.

Didn't that merchant in TPM say he had a hyperdrive capable of moving entire planets? I'm sure the FO had something similar installed on the starkiller base.

Come out of nowhere? No. The script should be structured to logically lead to Luke appearing at a high point of the film. Just as how they introduced Han at the 1/3rd point, introduce Luke in the climax of the film, let him kick a little ass, and give him some short interaction with the main cast, so we care about him for legitimately heroic reasons, not just cashing in on cultural legacy.

I would have liked to see Luke kick some ass too, even a minor display of power would have done.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Come out of nowhere? No. The script should be structured to logically lead to Luke appearing at a high point of the film. Just as how they introduced Han at the 1/3rd point, introduce Luke in the climax of the film, let him kick a little ass, and give him some short interaction with the main cast, so we care about him for legitimately heroic reasons, not just cashing in on cultural legacy.

The way it was, he was tacked on the end like Nick Fury coming along to give Tony Stark a job for the next movie. And non-nerd significant others everywhere were like "who is that old guy??" because the film doesn't really tell them why they should care.


It was a metaphor. Luke is placed at the end purely in a "see you next movie!" kind of teaser. It had the weight of a trailer announcing a new Smash Bros character.

The whole movie was about the race to find Luke. Literally that's the main story.

 

[LAUGHTREY]

J.J. said in the Vanity Fair interview (I believe that's the one) that he told Ford in the nicest way possible he doesn't want the grumpy old guy attitude. They did him the favor of killing off the character so bring the energy. I think Ford, over time, realized this was the film that made his career and livelihood so he went all out for it. He finally appreciated it (who knows how much but it doesn't matter).

Harrison Ford has said in at LEAST 2 interviews that I've seen that he thinks Han Solo should've died in Empire. The Redlettermedia guys make a good point too: He doesn't really...do anything in RotJ. He is blind half the movie, and the other half he's in front of a bunker trying to get it open, that's about it. Compared to coming back during the death star battle and getting frozen in carbonite, it's some pretty weak shit.

When a thought like that gets lodged in your brain, it sticks. Han Solo wasn't a "shock" death this movie, he was in it for as long or longer than Obi-Wan was in ANH. It had weight, and it had a very nice purpose that will hopefully echo for Rey, Leia, Luke, and Kylos story in the next 2 movies.



Also; Luke Skywalker did not need to be in this movie at all. Movie could've ended 5 minutes earlier with Rey getting on the Falcon with the map to find him. Next movie she finds a dusty crabby old hermit when she's looking for a "great warrior".

 

[BocoDragon]

The whole movie was about the race to find Luke. Literally that's the main story.

And why do they want him?

"Show don't tell."

Oh, but they didn't even tell us why they need him either....

 

[foxtrot3d]

They want to find him so do The First Order. A clue comes up, both sides go for it. It's the new clue that starts everything.

It isn't so much right now as they've akways been looking and this is the closest they've got and now it's a race because the First Order is on the sent too.

This isn't complicated stuff

The search for Luke had nothing to do with the Starkiller plot, The First Order had been planning the attack on the New Republic for what we can assume was years or however long it took them to build the base in secret. The First Order seemed to consider finding Luke a side show, a possible threat that could harm them at some point in the future but not their main concern. Rather, the destruction of the New Republic and the Resistance seemed to be their primary goals.

Like I said the Luke searching premise does not flow organically as does the Death Star plans in ANH. The fact that R2 literally just decides to wake up at the end and give them the missing piece is proof of this. It's completely unconnected to everything they had just been doing.

 

[Ishida]

And why do they want him?

Show don't tell.

Oh, but they didn't really tell us why they need him either....

I guess they believe that only he can actually put an end to Kylo?

 

[excelsiorlef]

Harrison Ford has said in at LEAST 2 interviews that I've seen that he thinks Han Solo should've died in Empire. The Redlettermedia guys make a good point too: He doesn't really...do anything in RotJ. He is blind half the movie, and the other half he's in front of a bunker trying to get it open, that's about it. Compared to coming back during the death star battle and getting frozen in carbonite, it's some pretty weak shit.

When a thought like that gets lodged in your brain, it sticks. Han Solo wasn't a "shock" death this movie, he was in it for as long or longer than Obi-Wan was in ANH. It had weight, and it had a very nice purpose that will hopefully echo for Rey, Leia, Luke, and Kylos story in the next 2 movies.

They brought hom back long enough to make you sad he's gone. Left you wanting more

 

[BocoDragon]

I guess they believe that only he can actually put an end to Kylo?

I guess too. I don't really know. All we can do is guess.

Maybe they made the call that Luke is so universally known that they can be more lazy than they would otherwise be with the tease of a new character. That might be true... but in general a good script would show why a character is so desired before acting like he's so radiantly awesome and we should wait for two years to get more.

 

[Alucard]

Your misunderstanding, of course Luke is important he is LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER. What I'm getting at is that it's never explained why he s important right NOW. Everyone wants to find him NOW, especially the RESISTANCE, as if finding him will somehow change the tide of the conflict which also subtly implies he's not paying attention to the state of the galaxy. In ANH the central premise is clear from the get go, get the Death Star plans to the REBEL ALLIANCE. Why? Because the Death Star is the newest ultimate weapon that can change the entire tide of the war and destroy the rebels once and for all. Everything in ANH revolves around this premise finally building up to the actual attack on the Death Star.

In TFA we are told that the RESISTANCE has found a map leading to Luke who they've been searching for, why is he important right now? We don't know. These plans are eventually given to the RESISTANCE who tell everyone that it's just half a map so whatever, I guess we shouldn't have even tried. And then all of a sudden we are attacking the Death Star 3.0. The central premise/plot does not flow organically as it does with ANH. The search for Luke is totally unconnected to the discovery and swift destruction of Starkiller Base.

"Without the Jedi, there can be no balance."

The First Order are starting to fuck shit up. The Resistance have likely been trying to find Luke for a while. I dunno...I'm totally okay with this.

 

[The One and Done™]

Your misunderstanding, of course Luke is important he is LUKE FUCKING SKYWALKER. What I'm getting at is that it's never explained why he s important right NOW. Everyone wants to find him NOW, especially the RESISTANCE, as if finding him will somehow change the tide of the conflict which also subtly implies he's not paying attention to the state of the galaxy. In ANH the central premise is clear from the get go, get the Death Star plans to the REBEL ALLIANCE. Why? Because the Death Star is the newest ultimate weapon that can change the entire tide of the war and destroy the rebels once and for all. Everything in ANH revolves around this premise finally building up to the actual attack on the Death Star.

In TFA we are told that the RESISTANCE has found a map leading to Luke who they've been searching for, why is he important right now? We don't know. These plans are eventually given to the RESISTANCE who tell everyone that it's just half a map so whatever, I guess we shouldn't have even tried. And then all of a sudden we are attacking the Death Star 3.0. The central premise/plot does not flow organically as it does with ANH. The search for Luke is totally unconnected to the discovery and swift destruction of Starkiller Base.

You must have been pissed after ANH and Empire. SO many unanswered questions...

foxtrot; we know you love Star Wars. And you especially love Kylo Ren atm. It will be alright buddy. Just sit back and enjoy the ride

 

[LAUGHTREY]

They brought hom back long enough to make you sad he's gone. Left you wanting more

Right, he could've died in 8, but at that point it wouldn't be as powerful for Kylo at this point.

He really needs to be of one mind the next time we see him, totally convinced of himself now that he is fully dark side, and giving him enough time to realize he's made a mistake.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I know I'm LTTP with this bit of trivia but -

Daniel Craig is the stormtrooper who Daisy tells to remove her restraints, leave with the door open behind him, and also drop his weapon on the way out.

Now that's one hell of a cameo, Craig is probably more happy about that than all the Bond films he did lol.

 

[kurahador]

That's one hell of a pilot!

 

[foxtrot3d]

You must have been pissed after ANH and Empire. SO many unanswered questions...

foxtrot; we know you love Star Wars. And you especially love Kylo Ren atm. It will be alright buddy. Just sit back and enjoy the ride

ANH stands on its own resolving it's entire central plot while leaving room for a sequel, Empire was the only film to end on an obvious cliffhanger but it was the second act not the first act to a new trilogy.

 

[Starfield]

I need to See this again. The Cinema where i was in must have been the shittiest ever. THe Sound was too silent and no Bass what so ever. Imagine hearing the Star wars score through Stereo boxes....that's how it Sounded like

 

[GhaleonEB]

That's one hell of a pilot!

I'm sure he could be Finn's wingman any time.

 

[excelsiorlef]

The search for Luke had nothing to do with the Starkiller plot, The First Order had been planning the attack on the New Republic for what we can assume was years or however long it took them to build the base in secret. The First Order seemed to consider finding Luke a side show, a possible threat that could harm them at some point in the future but not their main concern. Rather, the destruction of the New Republic and the Resistance seemed to be their primary goals.

Like I said the Luke searching premise does not flow organically as does the Death Star plans in ANH. The fact that R2 literally just decides to wake up at the end and give them the missing piece is proof of this. It's completely unconnected to everything they had just been doing.

Have you seen this movie?

Literally after they escape with Jakku with BB-8 on The Falcon there is a scene in Snoke's chamber where he is pissed that the droid is going to get to The Resistance because they'll find Luke and Luke will come back and re-establish the Jedi order, up until that point they'd been operating quietly, now and Snoke literally says this:"Our strategy must change" that;s when Hux says the weapon is ready and they decide to blow up the Senate, that was their plan B, because now everyone knows they exist, they committed an act of war that exposed them for what they are in order to try and stop the Resistance form getting to Luke, they are that terrified of him.

And then after Ren fails to acquire BB-8 because he thinks Rey is enough and she escapes they go to yet another chamber conversation where Hux reems out Ren for not getting BB-8 as well and tells SNoke that the droid is probably in the hands of the Resistance, And thus Snoke declares and again I quote "The Resistance must be destroyed before they get to Skywalker"

Amazing that you missed two blatant expository sit and talk scenes that spell out exactly that the quest to findi Luke is the centre of everything.

Why they tell Ren to not let his personal feelings interfere is that Snoke and The First Order would settle for destroying BB-8 and thus stopping Leia from finding Luke even if it meant never finding him themselves, something Ren doesn't want, he wants to find Luke,

The ends result is Snoke and The First Order are terrified that they will find Luke bring him home and he'll re-start the Jedi order. They were so terrified that they blew up the fucking Senate to send a message and thus exposing themselves and then put their entire weapon at risk by targeting Leia directly,

It was all to stop them from finding Luke. They literally say it twice, like not even implied but flat out said twice in plain english during giant exposition scenes, they attack the Republic so as to weaken the Resistance so that they can stop them before they reach Skywalker (literally paraphrasing Hux here) and then they try to launch on The Resistance base because if they don't wipe them out fully right away they will get to Skywalker. Everything they do is about stopping them from getting to Luke, because they don't want the new Jedi to rise.

So I say again did you actually watch this movie?

Tl;dr the entire movie takes great pains to paint finding Luke as terribly important and the reason everything that happens in this movie happens. He is set up as the ultimate fear of Snoke and The First Order and they are willing to do whatever it takes to stop Leia and co from getting to him. In short Luke is the ultimate badass in this movie and all he had to do was stand on a cliff and facial act the shit out of his one scene.

ANH stands on its own resolving it's entire central plot while leaving room for a sequel, Empire was the only film to end on an obvious cliffhanger but it was the second act not the first act to a new trilogy.

The central plot of this movie was finding Luke and omg what was resolved at the end? They found Luke.

Also A New Hope was designed to stand alone because there was no actual guarantee of a trilogy, nor was it even fleshed out at the time (I mean hello Vader was not Luke's dad until a revision of the ESB script). Ergo it had to fully stand on it's own, TFA is literally part of a guaranteed trilogy.

 

[Fuzzy]

I'm sure he could be Finn's wingman any time.

I wonder if they play beach volleyball without shirts in their spare time.

 

[NumberThree]

I'm sure he could be Finn's wingman any time.

Bullshit. Finn can be Poe's.

 

[User 73706]

I'm sure he could be Finn's wingman any time.

OTP

 

[OricWindstar]

I've heard it doesn't happen much anymore because, due to the way royalties are paid for original score recordings, Isolated Scores are some of the most expensive extras a blu-ray can have.

That makes sense. Still a fucking shame.

Editing that track was pretty fun, though. But I spent most of my time just scanning through both versions of the soundtrack for that single minute of music that's supposed to bridge Ways of the Force to the Scherzo for X-Wings, but it's just not there

Yeah dude, I went through the same thing on my edit. I just ended up giving up and just using the Ways of the Force track, so kudos on you for making it work pretty well.

 

[Dhruv_hanom]

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The ends result is Snoke and The First Order are terrified that they will find Luke bring him home and he'll re-start the Jedi order. They were so terrified that they blew up the fucking Senate to send a message and thus exposing themselves and then put their entire weapon at risk by targeting Leia directly,

They blew up the senate? I thought they blew up the governments that supported the resistance and not corusant.

 

[BuggyDClown]

This wingman argument makes me really want a new two pilot vehicle for finn to gun and poe to pilot. I'd love a new iconic ship like this for the resistance.

Also when are we getting a Z6 Riot baton toy?

How does this not exist yet, there's only one fan build so far. I'd love to see this thing have a toy. I'd run out and buy one now. it's too dope for them to pass up.

 

[Spinluck]

I think the reason Ford put in such a great performance was simply that they gave him a great role. You take away Hans death though and that role is greatly diminished. The whole movie is in fact. So in that way Hans death made Ford care more.

Speculation and yadaydada.

This doesn't sound off the mark at all, Harrison was awesome in this film. I can't remember a film he's done in 20 or so years where it looked like he gave a shit. Dude was phoning the fuck in for a very long time. He had a pretty memorable performance in TFA. It was great.

 

[aliengmr]

They blew up the senate? I thought they blew up the governments that supported the resistance and not corusant.

The senate moves around depending on the Chancellor. Hosnian Prime was destroyed, along with the Republic and the Republic fleet.

 

[BocoDragon]

They blew up the senate? I thought they blew up the governments that supported the resistance and not corusant.

I guess it's not actually Coruscant. It's an entirely different planet than the Republic of the PT or the New Republic of the now non-canon EU.

The political order of TFA is so ill-defined on-screen. I think they had a mandate to make it not too talky and political like the prequels, but as a result they just "yadda yadda" through the state of the galaxy at every juncture.

 

[Trigonometrize.]

They blew up the senate? I thought they blew up the governments that supported the resistance and not corusant.

I believe that Corusant is no longer relevant to the current story. The new government isn't there and neither is the First Order.

 

[Unknown Soldier]

This wingman argument makes me really want a new two pilot vehicle for finn to gun and poe to pilot. I'd love a new iconic ship like this for the resistance.

Also when are we getting a Z6 Riot baton toy?

How does this not exist yet, there's only one fan build so far. I'd love to see this thing have a toy. I'd run out and buy one now. it's too dope for them to pass up.

Does it have a button you push that yells 'TRAITOR!'? Because if not, I don't want it.

 

[MMarston]

liek dis if you cry everytym

 

[Falk]

This doesn't sound off the mark at all, Harrison was awesome in this film. I can't remember a film he's done in 20 or so years where it looked like he gave a shit. Dude was phoning the fuck in for a very long time. He had a pretty memorable performance in TFA. It was great.

TWELVE

*muttering* Fourteen

 

[Kadey]

I feel like they should remake the prequel movies and have a better script, better casting, etc. Never knew how annoying Anakin really was until I rewatched the films.

 

[Ishida]

liek dis if you cry everytym

I actually shed a manly tear during that scene. :')

That's all I needed from Luke in Episode VII.

I feel like they should remake the prequel movies and have a better script, better casting, etc. Never knew how annoying Anakin really was until I rewatched the films.

God NO. Leave them as they are. Any upgrade should be on the special effects, though. Especially on Ep. I.

 

[BuggyDClown]

Does it have a button you push that yells 'TRAITOR!'? Because if not, I don't want it.

If they were smart there would be a pack in helmet edition with that feature for more $$.

I still really want that Baton

 

[Dhruv_hanom]

The senate moves around depending on the Chancellor. Hosnian Prime was destroyed, along with the Republic and the Republic fleet.

I guess it's not actually Coruscant. It's an entirely different planet than the Republic of the PT or the New Republic of the now non-canon EU.

The political order of TFA is so ill-defined on-screen. I think they had a mandate to make it not too talky and political like the prequels, but as a result they just "yadda yadda" through the state of the galaxy at every juncture.

Wow, that upped the stakes immensely. The way it's shown in the movie it feels like the planets destroyed were not of major significance, but damn the republic and the republic fleet destroyed, holy shit!

 

[GhaleonEB]

I feel like they should remake the prequel movies and have a better script, better casting, etc. Never knew how annoying Anakin really was until I rewatched the films.

I feel like Kylo Ren is Anakin done well.

 

[Spinluck]

My friends saw some really dumb shit on the internet about Kylo becoming a Grey Jedi in order to defeat Snoke. Apparently killing Han was the first step in that movement, and Han was in on it. This is on the same level as the Jar Jar was the villain the entire time bullshit from the PM. Fan theories can be fun, but most of the time they aren't worth reading.

Star Wars never had a complex story, and a lot of the plot is a backdrop for the character driven elements/drama (something the prequels sort of lost). When people come up with these contrived theories they sort of lose sight of that.

 

[BuggyDClown]

I feel like Kylo Ren is Anakin done well.

So is Rey.

She's very luke, but she's also REALLY young anakin. Like kid anakin, in the way she acted. She was very wide eyed, great with robots, aliens and piloting. She also got a little in over her head and just sort of hoped for the best and made it work.

It felt like they made both new characters from two sides of the same mold.

 

[Trigonometrize.]

My friends saw some really dumb shit on the internet about Kylo becoming a Grey Jedi in order to defeat Snoke. Apparently killing Han was the first step in that movement, and Han was in on it. This is on the same level as the Jar Jar was the villain the entire time bullshit from the PM. Fan theories can be fun, but most of the time they aren't worth reading.

Star Wars never had a complex story, and a lot of the plot is a backdrop for the character driven elements/drama (something the prequels sort of lost). When people come up with these contrived theories they sort of lose sight of that.

So Han Solo is Kylo Ren's Dumbledore?

I love to hate fan theories.

 

[GhaleonEB]

So is Rey.

She's very luke, but she's also REALLY young anakin. Like kid anakin, in the way she acted. She was very wide eyed, great with robots, aliens and piloting. She also got a little in over her head and just sort of hoped for the best and made it work.

It felt like they made both new characters from two sides of the same mold.

I hadn't thought of her that way, but it's a great observation.

 

[excelsiorlef]

Wow, that upped the stakes immensely. The way it's shown in the movie it feels like the planets destroyed were not of major significance, but damn the republic and the republic fleet destroyed, holy shit!

I mean again don't know how anyone missed it Hux literally says we're gonna destroy the Republic and shortly after they blow up the Hosnian system someone says the entire Senate was killed along with the Republic fleet.

Giant exposition of Ren and Hux talking to a 15 foot hologram, that lays out exactly what they are doing and why, and they do this twice. Not to mention Hux's Hitler speech.

 

[Trigonometrize.]

I mean again don't know how anyone missed it Hux literally says we're gonna destroy the Republic and shortly after they blow up the Hosnian system someone says the entire Senate was killed along with the Republic fleet.

Giant exposition talking of Ren and Hux a 15 foot hologram, that lays out exactly what they are doing and why, and they do this twice. Not to mention Hux's Hitler speech.

Finn says "It was the Republic, they've done it" or something like that. Personally i thought it was one of the most awkward lines in the movie, but it was made clear by both sides what had happened.

It's pretty dumbfounding to me how they don't react to it much or elaborate on it.

It's also a retread of both the destruction of Alderaan and the destruction of Vulcan in ST2009 in that it should signal a new order in the galaxy...

...and yet they say little to nothing about it. Baffling. I presume something was cut for some reason or another? Or the moment was just lost in the translation to a finished product?

Was Alderan that important? I always thought it was literally just to get the base out of Leia.

 

[BocoDragon]

Wow, that upped the stakes immensely. The way it's shown in the movie it feels like the planets destroyed were not of major significance, but damn the republic and the republic fleet destroyed, holy shit!

It's pretty dumbfounding to me how they don't react to it much or elaborate on it.

It's also a retread of both the destruction of Alderaan and the destruction of Vulcan in ST2009 in that it should signal a new order in the galaxy...

...and yet they say little to nothing about it. Baffling. I presume something was cut for some reason or another? Or the moment was just lost in the translation to a finished product?

 

[Unknown Soldier]

I feel like they should remake the prequel movies and have a better script, better casting, etc. Never knew how annoying Anakin really was until I rewatched the films.

I feel like they should just let the prequels rest forever. No one has to speak of them ever again, except in hushed tones of disdain when others aren't listening.

Also why are you re-watching the prequels?

 

[BuggyDClown]

I hadn't thought of her that way, but it's a great observation.

I don't share it amongst many people because no one wants to hear about how anything in the new film resembles the PT in any way. It's also one of the reasons I felt she is also a grandchild of anakin. If that turns out to be the case it will reframe that lightsaber battle with Kylo in a way that makes it even more powerful.

The grandchildren of Anakin fighting it out, one in the name of darth vader and the other fighting for good using his original jedi weapon.

Hell it would only be better if Kylos cracked saber crystal came from the fragments of evaders found amongst the wreckage of deathstar 2. (that's getting a little legends though in story telling)

Anakin skywalker's dark and light sides still battling it out even after he is gone.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Small visual detail I keep forgetting to mention:

When Kylo has Rey pinned with their sabers crossed at the end, tells him she needs a teacher, their weapons are reflected in their eyes in the shape of a cross. One blue, one red. Kind of gives Kylo this devilish look, but it's there on Rey as well. Then she closes her eyes and lets go...and when she opens them, she's pushed Ren's saber a bit higher and all we can see in her eyes is the blue of her lightsaber.

It was a nice visual compliment to the red/blue lighting during Kylo Ren's final confrontation with Han, with the blue fading out as he makes his decision. With Rey, it goes the other way.

Edit: doesn't show before she closes her eyes, but it shows the contrast in Rey and Kylo's:

 

[Falk]

Was Alderan that important? I always thought it was literally just to get the base out of Leia.

Bail Organa (Leia's adoptive father) served in the senate and was one of the founders of the Rebel Alliance.

Also Alderaan itself is kind of a symbol as its policies are very pacifistic. For the Empire to blow it up is equally symbolic in that they're not messing around.