CadetMahoney
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"Don't use this feature then and don't join sharing groups" doesn't sound appealing to me since it was a lot of fun on console and added longevity to the game.
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"Don't use this feature then and don't join sharing groups" doesn't sound appealing to me since it was a lot of fun on console and added longevity to the game.
It's kind of its own thing and hard to describe on those terms. It does have bosses/enemies that are as tough as bosses/enemies in Dark Souls and you can manage party members (pawns) to an outrageous degree or let them do their own thing, just like followers in Dragon Age. Pawns are also entirely optional and will likely be as useful as the time you invest into making them useful (which is why many recommend using pawns of friends).
It is an action-combat game though and the thing that's perhaps most unique about it is the ability to climb on enemies as well as a lot of the terrain. The climbing is also very snappy and responsive, which is unlike most games with climbing mechanics. I personally enjoy the combat a lot more than Dark Souls', but I'm definitely biased (not that I don't love the combat of the Souls series, mind).
PepsimanVsJoe
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Most of the quests are of the "collect [x] amount of [y]" and "kill such and such" variety.
However you'll definitely want to pay attention to certain NPCs. There are a handful of NPC-exclusive quests that can include
rescuing a princess
Keep in mind that DD has
New Game+
Admiral Woofington
Member
From those who played the title recently how fast do you get to level 10?
I want to do the optimal class run to Assassin but at the same time I also wanna play the first Ranger/bow class and I can't recall how long it takes to reach level 10
I want to do the optimal class run to Assassin but at the same time I also wanna play the first Ranger/bow class and I can't recall how long it takes to reach level 10
Soodanim
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Equipment is JRPG style in that it changes the look and stats, but that's it. When you use the moves available (as you start unlocking more) you'll likely forget about it.
I think it's pretty fast. There are people who figured out how to get to Gran Soren before level 10 so they could min-max, but you have to try to avoid getting to that level.
Don't worry about min-maxing unless you are a veteran and want to try a particular run, though. Not worth it.
Morrigan Stark
Arrogant Smirk
Min maxing is a terrible idea in this game. You will kill your fun and not even gain anything really good.
Pyros_Eien
Member
Well if you follow the wiki list, you shouldn't miss any. Main trick to it really is making sure you have all the sidequests completed before you proceed with the main quest. As it explains there's several "stages" of progress in the game, which are fairly obvious because when you progress past one, the item shops add new items. At that point you want to just clear every sidequests until you progress the main story again.
It's kinda spoiler-ish though, but shouldn't impact you too much if you don't read the story spoilers ahead of time. Just the stage names are fairly generic.
It's kinda spoiler-ish though, but shouldn't impact you too much if you don't read the story spoilers ahead of time. Just the stage names are fairly generic.
uhhmm ehh - I might have bad news for you
educator
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Talk to me!
yup, what the guy above me said. those game have aren't related and are as different as it gets on the spectrum of RPG's. Though you might say that both share a pretty standard fantasy artstyle, high fantasy I guess?
anyway, not to put you off the game, it's much better than the dragon age series in my opinion.
We're talking about Dragon's Dogma, not Dragon's Age... you probably meant Dragon's Dogma though.
If you didn't... well Dragon's Age are already available for the PC.
educator
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Yhea, I can see why my comment confused you. I do enjoy the art style and high fantasy, so I feel like this will be right up my alley. I've been looking for a new RPG and DD looks like the perfect match, honestly. I'm very much looking forward to it. I've heard so much great things about it.
I'm well aware that this is a thread about Dragon's Dogma. I just wanted to proclaim my affection for Dragon Age and that this game can fill the RPG-void since I completed Inquisition. Sorry for the confusion!
Finaika
Member
Dragon's Dogma > Dragon Age
Yup, learned that the hard way (hated being a sorcerer for 20 hours, just to have a decent Magic Archer, and it turns out i wasn't that better in stats afterall).
Totally not worth it, just select a class you enjoy and have fun.
The game is easy anyway.
Pyros_Eien
Member
I'd say it's not really that far from the gameplay of DA:I if you don't pause. It's way better, but it's relatively similar in the way it plays, especially compared to DA:I on lower difficulties where you didn't have to do much strategy planning and just kinda rushed into stuff mashing the skills and letting the AI deal with the other chars.
educator
Member
I've played all three DA games multiple times over and I love them. I want to sink 300-ish hours into DD if possible.
A big part of Dragon age (like most Bioware rpgs) is dialog options and your relationship with your mates.
The big focus of Dragon's Dogma (the only focus, dare i say) is combat.
If you go in expecting the type of experience you get from DA, you're going to get burned.
After all, "RPG" is too vast and broad a term to be worth a damn in this context.
That said, you may very well still like it as its own thing.
Remember that class changes are available at BBI right from the start. Trying to reach Gran Soren at the minimum lv 10 is kinda moot, as you can just haul ass back to Cassardis and take the boat to BBI, get your new class and boat/port back. You'll still need that lv 10, but the impetus to avoid all the stuff in between becomes null.
I also agree with the general "min maxin' is not worth it" comments, but guys, do remember that many of those who are jumping on the PC port have played the shit out of this game already and might want to do something very specific, including a min-max character.
Pyros_Eien
Member
I meant comparing combat only. The rest of the game is vastly different.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Don't fuss with min-maxing. I switched classes whenever I wanted and it didn't really affect anything.
Almost all of your damage is going to come from equipment, so try and keep that topped off (especially if you're doing Bitter Black Isle).
Almost all of your damage is going to come from equipment, so try and keep that topped off (especially if you're doing Bitter Black Isle).
You don't know how happy I am when I finally see DD on my region store page when it was region locked before ;__;
2016 off on a good start with DD.
2016 off on a good start with DD.
I min-maxing really late into the game and my Arisen and his pawn seems able to decimate everything in their path. Except necro dragons, fuck those shit.
lol no they're not similar at all.
Good luck with that in DD, especially at Bitterblack Isle.
Pyros_Eien
Member
I didn't say you do the same thing in DD. I said DA:I when you don't make use of the pause and tactical options such as ordering your teammates to use specific skills in specific spots or on specific targets, plays like DD.
It's mostly skill based combat as opposed to Dark Souls weapon moveset based combat, you play with a group of NPCs(although in both games you can play solo if you wish), it's class based with classes having clearly defined roles, it has open world encounters albeit not randomized.
The game still plays differently obviously, cause it's not the same game, but it's similar enough, and tactical mode aside, it's closer to DA:I than say Dark Souls which is generally what some people compare it to.
As for difficulty, unless you play on hardmode, a lot of DD can be facerolled by mashing one button over and over, especially if you build your pawns correctly. Not every class or every boss, but a lot of stuff can be beaten entirely by climbing on top of the monster, then mashing Hundred Kisses until it dies, using consumables to fill up stamina if needed. Or you can be a Mystic Knight and just Canon/Canon/spam Full Moon Slash and basically kill almost everything in the game.
On hard mode, more finesse is required due to getting hit like a truck by about everything, but on normal the game is hardly a challenge for a bunch of classes. It feels good and is very fun, but you'll rarely die other than running around at low level in higher level areas. This is especially true before BBI, but even BBI on normal if you're 100+ and using a strong class with good pawns, doesn't present much of a challenge other than the optional boss.
Being overleveled does tend to do that in games, yes.
Pyros_Eien
Member
At the intended level, I thought I remembered it was around 80-90 you finished the main game at but it seems it's not. Maybe that's the level I finished BBI at? Too lazy to plug the PS3 in to check.
This game is easy if you're not playing on hard mode. I guess easy is subjective and depends on people, but I'd count it as easy, your risk of dying are very limited between auto self rez stones, near unlimited healing consumables+healing spells and the ability to flee from most encounters.
johancruijff
Banned
You're killing my hype
Pyros_Eien
Member
I edited my post to try to be a bit clearer about what I meant, and there's the followup explanations. The comparison is purely on combat and purely on how they play IF you don't make use of the tactical mode in DA:I, with the combat of DD being much better than that.
JimJamJones
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texhnolyze
Banned
So its the new DMC4 in terms of performance then? Excellent!
lucebuce12
Member
Oh dear, I'm getting chills now.
Keep in mind that Dragon's Dogma was done by the Devil May Cry team.
It is faaar more action heavy and flashy combat wise over the slower more deliberate combat of Souls games and absolutely nothing like Dragon Age.
Aside from DD being high fantasy, DD has zero in common with DA.
Think of DD as a high fantasy DMC or Bayonetta with Monster Hunter esque mounting and monster climbing.
DD had monster climbing before MH, I would say it's more Shadow of the Colossus esque in its implementation.
That's essentially a ps4, no?
texhnolyze
Banned
Yes, the PS4 port (if any, in the future) would be performing similarly on that particular settings. I believe XB1 can easily accomplish that as well.
The game has already launched in Japan is is cross-platform between PS3, PS4 and PC.
texhnolyze
Banned
Are you talking about DD Online?
But this is DD, which was originally on the XBox as well, right? It has nothing to do with cross-platform.
Shadowhaxor
Member
The PC it was running on was a tad higher spec'd compared to the PS4, especially the i5-4670k.
Just Xbox 360 and PS3. But yes, he's referring to DD Online.
Yeah, my bad.
Regardless of what came first, I was simply giving an easy to reference gameplay example.
SotC does share a similar mechanic, but that is more the main focus of the game. Whereas Monhun 4 is much closer to DD in the way the mounting works.
At any rate, all I was saying is that DD is an action heavy game with some monster climbing in it...and it's wonderful. The game deserves the PC treatment at 60fps with better lod and reduced pop in.
artsi
Member
Well it's a last gen game after all, so it would be strange not to perform well on a modern PC.
Yay, just a bit over 2 weeks left.
