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2016+ Gaming Laptop Thread: Embracing Pascal's Wafer (Please Read OP)
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Yeah they cut costs by using a less than premium IPS display.
Battery estimation is usually casual use. Neither would push past an hour of gaming.
Price is nice, but the screen is advertised as 220-nit, which seems way too dim.
I'd probably still take a GE62 instead, because of that.
It doesn't compare, frankly.
The Acer V15 clocks in between 4-5 hours, Wi-Fi surfing.
After this number of months, Pascal may have been announced.
Polioliolio
Member
Thanks guys.
So maybe the thing to do is get the MSI and carry an extra charged battery if need be. Hmm...
So maybe the thing to do is get the MSI and carry an extra charged battery if need be. Hmm...
True. I'll keep the yoga I think. I can play cheap indie games on it no problem (FTL, Ys, etc), and have my desktop for bigger games.
I will say though, that thing alienware has to be able to use desktop gfx cards? That's amazing, and basically means you can use a gaming laptop for a long time.
Nerdkiller
Membeur
And how long will it take until we get a full fledged GPU of Pascal's equivalent in laptops? Afterall, we only got 980's in laptops starting in October, and how long was the desktop version already out? About a year?
Polioliolio
Member
Decided on the inspiron. After this was recommended to me, I recommended it to a friend of mine, and he bought it earlier. I saw the screen in action and it wasn't as bad as I had expected. It's a little muted, upping saturation helps, but it's not terrible, and the rest of the computer I'm sold on.
So I went into it, and went ahead and got an extra 8 gig of ram and another ssd for the spare slot. If I was going to spend another 300 on a computer to get a better screen, I may as well just get this, and if it's a problem, later get a 300 dollar portable monitor of great quality.
I might even check back alleys for experts who might hack in another screen, but for now, I think I'm going to be content.
Thanks for the help fellas.
edit: Picked up a blue tooth mouse, but is there anything else I ought to have? What kind of cases would you recommend? Backpack?
So I went into it, and went ahead and got an extra 8 gig of ram and another ssd for the spare slot. If I was going to spend another 300 on a computer to get a better screen, I may as well just get this, and if it's a problem, later get a 300 dollar portable monitor of great quality.
I might even check back alleys for experts who might hack in another screen, but for now, I think I'm going to be content.
Thanks for the help fellas.
edit: Picked up a blue tooth mouse, but is there anything else I ought to have? What kind of cases would you recommend? Backpack?
But pascal will be so much better! It's a way bigger deal for laptops than desktops. That die shrink should help a lot with heat and power use, which is a huge limiting factor with laptops right now. If you're close, wait.
Ghost_Messiah
Member
Okay so it looks like the expensive £1000 gaming laptop might have to wait a month or so. However I desperately need to upgrade to something right now as cheaply as possible as this current machine I'm using is kind of on its last legs.
My budget is £300 (strapped for cash at the moment). I found this one which with the cashback included looks like a steal at £240:
It's here: http://www.ebuyer.com/723847-hp-255-g4-laptop-p5t27es-abu
It's nothing amazing due to my budget being so low but it's a decent upgrade on what I have (now a three year old machine that's not even supported by ATI anymore since the Crimson driver update). You guys think this is decent for the price? Or could I get something better?
My budget is £300 (strapped for cash at the moment). I found this one which with the cashback included looks like a steal at £240:
It's here: http://www.ebuyer.com/723847-hp-255-g4-laptop-p5t27es-abu
It's nothing amazing due to my budget being so low but it's a decent upgrade on what I have (now a three year old machine that's not even supported by ATI anymore since the Crimson driver update). You guys think this is decent for the price? Or could I get something better?
Nerdkiller
Membeur
Alright, I'll try and be patient. I don't want to wind up disappointed if the initial launch for laptops are only "M" cards.
Pascal will probably drop in 6 months, next Summer.
It's a working laptop, that's my only opinion.
The GTX 980 was a one-off special, don't expect non-M cards again.
Digital Savior
Member
Picked up a new MSI GE62 2QF Apache 413. Found some at the local MicroCenter. $1200 for a 970m. Pretty much the cheapest I could find. So far so good. Cannot wait to use it some more.
Going to be a secondary gaming machine and development machine.
Going to be a secondary gaming machine and development machine.
Wolf Akela
Member
Do I have to upgrade to Win10 first (to upgrade the key or something) or can I just use Win8 key on a fresh install of Win10?
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Laptop gaf.
i know fuck all about laptops or pc gaming in general.
But today a friend at a local electro shop dropped this thing on me for only 550$ as he MUST sell it since its past holiday.
Tell me gaf is this thing decent?
Can it run anything of note?
Should i take this thing?
Is it even passable for gaming?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U51M6JM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
i know fuck all about laptops or pc gaming in general.
But today a friend at a local electro shop dropped this thing on me for only 550$ as he MUST sell it since its past holiday.
Tell me gaf is this thing decent?
Can it run anything of note?
Should i take this thing?
Is it even passable for gaming?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00U51M6JM/?tag=neogaf0e-20
Nope, won't run modern games 720p let alone 4k, lol. Here's some benchmarks:
http://www.notebookcheck.net/AMD-Radeon-R7-M270.139590.0.html
As you can see it's only moderately better than integrated intel video.
The processor is modern, but also of the U series. My 4 year old i7-2670QM performs better on benchmarks than it.
That said, not sure how good the price is. Just that it won't do wonders for gaming.
EVA UNIT 01
Member
Stumbled across this website - similar info as OP, but another resource nonetheless.
Tips for buying notebook with decent graphics
Tips for buying notebook with decent graphics
Nerdkiller
Membeur
BAH!
But the prices should drop after Pascal releases, right? I'm not sure if the mobile versions will have super resolution.
longdi
Banned
Got my XPS15 9550 just before the new year, and it was supposed to be delivered late this month! Guess Dell got a new batch produced, lucky me.
So far it is working great with a fresh W10 Pro install, which i am glad because i read there were plenty of early adopter's' issues(Apple FTW!). Besides a tiny ghosting on the UHD and the not so good battery life(~5.5 hours ime) due to NVME sleep bug, it is performing well for me.
I also used Intel XTU utility to adaptively down-volt my CPU voltages, set it once and forget about it. Helps with load temps by 10 degree Celsius, so yay, those with laptops do consider to use this handy utility.
A phone cam look of the UHD screen, finally Win laptops are in the same league as mobile phones for high ppi text!
Love the punchy colors and contrasty blacks it can produce.
So far it is working great with a fresh W10 Pro install, which i am glad because i read there were plenty of early adopter's' issues(Apple FTW!). Besides a tiny ghosting on the UHD and the not so good battery life(~5.5 hours ime) due to NVME sleep bug, it is performing well for me.
I also used Intel XTU utility to adaptively down-volt my CPU voltages, set it once and forget about it. Helps with load temps by 10 degree Celsius, so yay, those with laptops do consider to use this handy utility.
A phone cam look of the UHD screen, finally Win laptops are in the same league as mobile phones for high ppi text!
Love the punchy colors and contrasty blacks it can produce.
The more resources the better. I like the simplicity of their Firestrike chart.
Think about it like this: The GTX 980 was originally going to be released as the GTX 990M, but Nvidia went with the desktop name for marketing purposes. It's just like how the 860M/960M are the desktop GTX 750 Ti. There's a section in the OP that breaks down what cards are what desktop cards:
So, even the 'M' cards will be some desktop chip, regardless of name.
Having a good screen is such a pleasure.
Sr Kitsune
Member
Yep, that fixed the issue. Just two more questions.
Is PhysX really that demanding, or is Borderlands 2 poorly optimized? I'm playing with this settings:
I did some research, and draw distance and physx are the more demanding settings. I have around 60 fps, with drops to 40's. When there is a lot of fire it can drop to even 30's. The lowest I remember in some very demanding areas it dropped to like 25.
I'm playing on GT72S, these are my specs, game is installed on my HDD.
Should I change something in my Nvidia settings, or is just the game/physx effects?
Are there any way to connect a HDD with usb 3.1? I'm not talking about these "external" HDD. I'm talking about buying and HDD that you would use on your desktop, but connecting it to my laptop with usb 3.1
ss_lemonade
Member
A 980m should be pretty similar to a desktop 780 in performance right? I have a 780 and remember borderlands 2 dropping a lot too with a lot going on. Draw distance was one of those things that hurt my framerate but I think I also disabled physx
I run BL2 with everything maxed, PhysX on medium. When the elemental shots are splashing everywhere, the fps can tank hard. But outside of that, it's normally a locked 60fps.
1. The GTX 960M is a GTX 750 Ti, with slightly differing clocks. Literally.
2. The GTX 970M is a significant upgrade, nearly 2x as fast. If you can afford it, you take it.
Guy in post #4264 said he found the MSI GE62 at Microcenter for $1200, might want to check there as well. I went to the website, and sure enough, they still have that SKU in stock Jump on it!
Other options if that doesn't pan out:
MSI GE72 @ $1299
Gigabyte P55 @ $1249
NP8657-S @ $1399 <-- most expensive, but includes Skylake CPU, 16GB DDR4, and 120GB Samsung 850 EVO. Can be had as low as $1319, if you already have an OS, and $1,279.43 if you take the 3% cash discount.
This seem like a good deal to you?
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_...IbhZJHpOQufQ9-UT99PZ7yKFR6140099YIaAqk88P8HAQ
http://www.monoprice.com/Product?p_...IbhZJHpOQufQ9-UT99PZ7yKFR6140099YIaAqk88P8HAQ
Yeah, I do, if you want a 17 inch machine.
longdi
Banned
longdi
Banned
Unless Dell Canada does things differently, all 8gb XPS15 comes with 1 stick of ram, you will have an open ram slot to add your own 8gb stick to make it 2x8gb. Although it will involve unscrewing a number of tiny screws to access the back panel.
popsicle_sundays
Member
So a gaming laptop which I can use for everyday browsing, etc has been on my mind for a LONG time. I'm finally in a place career wise and financially where I can drop $2k on one and I've really narrowed it down to the ASUS G752VY-RH71. I really don't think over $2k is worth it, so that's kind of my hard cap.
Below are the specs, and this includes the IPS displays with G-Sync
Intel® Core i7-6700HQ Processor
· NVIDIA® GTX 980M 4GB GDDR5
· 16GB DDR4 RAM
My question for GAF is...does anyone have one of these? All of the reviews I've seen say it's amazing and the vapor cooling is top notch. I'd also most likely buy myself a docking station and display it onto my 2 monitors (although that then voids the G-Sync aspect). I've seen all benchmarks for the 980M and it seems pretty solid, like I would be well off for years to come.
Here's a link to where I would buy it, it includes 3% cash back: http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g752vyrh71-eta-nov-2015-p-8768.html
I have all 3 gaming consoles and do in fact need/want a laptop but I work in tech and just can't get a bare bones piece of trash, so I'm looking at a minmum of $800 for decent specs, but have convinced myself that at that price point I may as well pony up more and get something I've always wanted. I have a decent gaming PC (overclocked i5-2500k, 2xGTX570's in SLI, 16gb memory) but feel like this could satisfy all of my needs.
I do wonder about longevity; would using this every other day as a regular PC (i.e. if I decide on docking station or just to carry around) kill it slowly? Have never delved too far into purchasing one.
Below are the specs, and this includes the IPS displays with G-Sync
Intel® Core i7-6700HQ Processor
· NVIDIA® GTX 980M 4GB GDDR5
· 16GB DDR4 RAM
My question for GAF is...does anyone have one of these? All of the reviews I've seen say it's amazing and the vapor cooling is top notch. I'd also most likely buy myself a docking station and display it onto my 2 monitors (although that then voids the G-Sync aspect). I've seen all benchmarks for the 980M and it seems pretty solid, like I would be well off for years to come.
Here's a link to where I would buy it, it includes 3% cash back: http://www.xoticpc.com/asus-g752vyrh71-eta-nov-2015-p-8768.html
I have all 3 gaming consoles and do in fact need/want a laptop but I work in tech and just can't get a bare bones piece of trash, so I'm looking at a minmum of $800 for decent specs, but have convinced myself that at that price point I may as well pony up more and get something I've always wanted. I have a decent gaming PC (overclocked i5-2500k, 2xGTX570's in SLI, 16gb memory) but feel like this could satisfy all of my needs.
I do wonder about longevity; would using this every other day as a regular PC (i.e. if I decide on docking station or just to carry around) kill it slowly? Have never delved too far into purchasing one.
Hello LaptopGAF, I'm in dire need of a new laptop, since I feel like it's time to finally upgrade as my current 4-year old university one is on its last legs, and I sure could use some help from some knowledgeable folks.
Country: Portugal
Budget: 500-750 euro
Max size: I have no specific requirements
Planned Usage: Maybe I'm asking too much for the budget I have in mind, but I would like to be able to play Dark Souls 3 and AC: Syndicate in 1366x768 (30fps). Maybe SW:Battlefront too, if possible at all? (I'm guessing not). Either way, according to the previous games minimum system requirements it seems like 8GB Ram is a must.
Links: FNAC, WORTEN. I could only find two major technology focused retailers with a decent website. However, specific laptop suggestions that aren't present in either link are also welcomed.
Country: Portugal
Budget: 500-750 euro
Max size: I have no specific requirements
Planned Usage: Maybe I'm asking too much for the budget I have in mind, but I would like to be able to play Dark Souls 3 and AC: Syndicate in 1366x768 (30fps). Maybe SW:Battlefront too, if possible at all? (I'm guessing not). Either way, according to the previous games minimum system requirements it seems like 8GB Ram is a must.
Links: FNAC, WORTEN. I could only find two major technology focused retailers with a decent website. However, specific laptop suggestions that aren't present in either link are also welcomed.
Well bought an MSI GT72 2QD and already have an issue. I installed dota 2 and it is almost unplayable due to random ms spikes, the usual ms is 75 but during gameplay and especially combat it jumps to 200 there is also a 10-20% loss, the game freezes a bit for around 2-5 seconds, the game becomes practically unplayable. It is definately not the ISP or valve's servers because after 2-3 games with this issue I used my brother's laptop and the game run just fine internet was really stable with same router, same ISP different laptops though. I also have to say the fps remains stable always no drops. Anyone has any clue what that may be or can help?
oneils
Member
Thanks. Are you able to just have dell do it for you? Can't see the option on there website.
fatigues_gasolini
Member
Maybe you fine people can help. Im downsizing so I am getting rid of my gaming laptop but I dont know what a good price to sell it at is. I am hoping you guys can help.
Here are the specs:
Processor Intel® Core i7-4720MQ Processor
Memory 16GB - Signature Series 1600MHz DDR3
Optical Drive Panasonic 4X BD-R Slim/Slot
Keyboard Color Programmable Illuminated Keyboard
Wireless Card Intel Dual Band 2.4 & 5.4GHz Wireless AC 7260
Screen 15.6" Full HD 16:9 Wide screen
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M 6GB GDDR5
HDD/SSD Western Digital Black 500GB
m.2 SSD 240GB mSATA Solid State
Any help would be appreciated!
Here are the specs:
Processor Intel® Core i7-4720MQ Processor
Memory 16GB - Signature Series 1600MHz DDR3
Optical Drive Panasonic 4X BD-R Slim/Slot
Keyboard Color Programmable Illuminated Keyboard
Wireless Card Intel Dual Band 2.4 & 5.4GHz Wireless AC 7260
Screen 15.6" Full HD 16:9 Wide screen
Graphics Card NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970M 6GB GDDR5
HDD/SSD Western Digital Black 500GB
m.2 SSD 240GB mSATA Solid State
Any help would be appreciated!
fatigues_gasolini
Member
yeah uh are you sure you really need a gaming laptop? A gaming desktop and a proper laptop is a much better use of that budget. Check the OP for more details.
Dammit, sorry. I confused two tabsBut thats where I did ask
I'm an idiot. Carry on!
Polioliolio
Member
Got the dell Inspiron.
Did a fresh install of windows.
Great battery life. Had it cycling YouTube videos for maybe 3 hours while I updated drivers and downloaded programs, and it still had 65 percent battery at the end of the night.
After attempting to install new ram and ssd, I had a boot screen mentioning memory had changed.. Clumsily went to diagnostic where it was beeping extremely loud and flashing colors. I thought I killed it.
Then I hard reset it, it did some strange system update and had fans at max.
Now I'm the proud owner of a bouncing baby boy! Er, laptop!
Colors are definitely off from my other monitor, the purples aren't as deep. That said, it seems whiter than my other monitor which appears blue in comparison. It's not bad. It'll do fine.
One surprising feature is that while in steam, I saw that I could play any of the steam games installed on my other PC, through streaming. It worked reeaally well, with a hickup here or there. Didn't know about this.. So as long as my PC is on at home, no matter where I am, I should be able to stream games from it. Neato. Just not sure how I can make sure my PC isn't sleeping at home when I want to play. Hm.
Bluetooth mouse works really well. Happy about that.
Yaaaay.
Did a fresh install of windows.
Great battery life. Had it cycling YouTube videos for maybe 3 hours while I updated drivers and downloaded programs, and it still had 65 percent battery at the end of the night.
After attempting to install new ram and ssd, I had a boot screen mentioning memory had changed.. Clumsily went to diagnostic where it was beeping extremely loud and flashing colors. I thought I killed it.
Then I hard reset it, it did some strange system update and had fans at max.
Now I'm the proud owner of a bouncing baby boy! Er, laptop!
Colors are definitely off from my other monitor, the purples aren't as deep. That said, it seems whiter than my other monitor which appears blue in comparison. It's not bad. It'll do fine.
One surprising feature is that while in steam, I saw that I could play any of the steam games installed on my other PC, through streaming. It worked reeaally well, with a hickup here or there. Didn't know about this.. So as long as my PC is on at home, no matter where I am, I should be able to stream games from it. Neato. Just not sure how I can make sure my PC isn't sleeping at home when I want to play. Hm.
Bluetooth mouse works really well. Happy about that.
Yaaaay.
MSI GT72S is just a better laptop. I'd at least consider this one. The extra gets you a 980M with 8GB VRAM, and an unlocked, overclockable CPU.
I'd honestly consider taking this deal.
Always a good way to start, is to reinstall/update your Nvidia and Intel drivers, including the chipset driver.
What laptop is it, and is there still any warranty left?
Nice. Keep us updated with your ongoing impressions.
Yeah don't worry I figured out what was wrong. It was the router for some reason, I tried my super old router and boom internet was like normal. Dunno what caused the laptop to not work well with my router though.
fatigues_gasolini
Member
Its from Xidax, which is a clevo p-15sm-a/SM1-a base. There is still a warranty that ends in March of 2017
Well my old Clevo finally died! 4.5 years of very hard labour, not a bad innings. It was a Horize P150HMA (same model as the Sager NP8150). I have a great desktop rig now, so I'm after something a little lighter on the laptop side this time. I've pretty much settled on this, which I can get a great deal on through work:
http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b186/Metabox-Alpha-N150RF-Laptop
- 15.6" FHD IPS Matte
- Nvidia GeForce 965M Ver:GR
- Core i7-6700HQ
So I don't need technical advice, but I do have questions for people who have owned Clevos in the past few years. My greatest complaint with the P150 was the keyboard. It had really poor action (shallow movement with hard landing) making it painful to type on for any length of time. I've heard that this has improved with each generation. But I've just read this review of the Schenker N150SD, and with what they say about the keyboard, case finish and many other small details, they could easily be describing my old P150...
Is there anyone who has owned more than one Clevo in the past four years, who can comment on how the design has evolved?
http://www.metabox.com.au/store/b186/Metabox-Alpha-N150RF-Laptop
- 15.6" FHD IPS Matte
- Nvidia GeForce 965M Ver:GR
- Core i7-6700HQ
So I don't need technical advice, but I do have questions for people who have owned Clevos in the past few years. My greatest complaint with the P150 was the keyboard. It had really poor action (shallow movement with hard landing) making it painful to type on for any length of time. I've heard that this has improved with each generation. But I've just read this review of the Schenker N150SD, and with what they say about the keyboard, case finish and many other small details, they could easily be describing my old P150...
Is there anyone who has owned more than one Clevo in the past four years, who can comment on how the design has evolved?
Guys I'm getting excited about the next gen of mobile graphics cards. I was reading about amd's new offerings and it sounds incredible for normal sized laptops that won't run out of battery in an hour or heat up to the temperature of the sun. This could be a huge game changer.
That sounds like a good deal? Any cosmetic damage? What processor is onboard.
Spelling for myself, I'd bite if the same model was more expensive directly from Dell.
paolo11
Member
For that price, I'm down to buy it.
I think it's the base model for the 17
And no cosmetic damage, looks pretty much new lol. I have it on layaway.