Batman v Superman - New Clip

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I always hear "bread" instead of "bleed." I'm not sure why. I just really really really want him to ask Superman, "tell me, do you bread?"
It makes me giggle.

I'm an idiot.

with Superman's power he can make lots of bread and cakes. more than 40 cakes....

This film continues to be nothing that I really want to see from my batman/superman stories. I don't like to indulge in fan whining, and I know, every story can be good, wait for the movie, etc, etc. Yeah, I know, but still.

I just don't go for the Miller machismo dickmeasuring "You better stop or I'll kick your ass" "No, I'm gonna kick your ass" bullshit. Batman vs Superman is a compelling narrative when these two are reluctant to fight one another. Honestly, these two are at their most compelling when they're bro's, if anything, but if they have to fight, I want it framed in a juxtaposition of tragedy and awe. This is trying it's hardest to capture the awe part, but having nothing that creates a bond between the two makes the conflict just a light show of effects for me. Which might be fine, but it can be so much more. Bah.

/fanwhine


sometimes best friends start out as enemies.
anyways, this is looking good.
 
They keep managing to put out crappier marketing stuff since the first trailer.

That looked legit bad. Like bordering on parody bad.
 
If this was a Marvel movie you'd hear Superman in the background go "I heaaaaaaard that".

Love how Superman threatens Batman and Batman still continues acting bad ass.

None of them is jobbing to the other. Superman ain't taking no ones crap and I'm more convinced that Superman jumped in and hit the batmobile and disabled it. (as in Batman didn't try to run over Superman)

Why do they have to go over then top.

Keaton's bat voice was just fine.

Because it makes perfect sense... he'd want to hide his voice. And this makes his voice sound more menacing.

Also Keaton's voice was gaaaaaah-bage.
 
You know the whole batman/superman beef is pretty much juvenile right? Even when friends they don't even care too much for every other and always give each other shit.

No, not at all. I mean, as always, it depends on the story. But by and large, Batman and Superman respect each other a whole lot and don't want to fight. The most recent fight (that I know of anyway, from Batman 36, has batman summarize it well "Who wins in a fight between Superman and Batman? Neither of us."

Or that whole justice league when Superman was thought to be killed, Batman worked harder than anyone under the suspicion/obsession that Superman was alive somehow.

They're buddies, more often than not.

sometimes best friends start out as enemies.

Yeah, but I also don't want to sit through 2.5 hours of dick measuring competition before we get to that point. And that's what this comes off as. I'd be less resistant to it if wasn't framed in such a juvenile way.
 
This is how I see Bats

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of course i will watch this but all i can do is cringe when i look at that butt chin. i just can't ignore it now or any role affleck has done, like a stale grandpa fart.

voice is a step above the worst we have seen thus far which ain't saying much.
 
I am losing my hype for this movie more and more every day a new trailer/taser is released. Thanks Zack you truly made the impossible and made a Batman Vs Superman movie feel bad before release. I for one I am hoping Affleck gets to direct his own Batman movie, that may be the saving grace of the film. Something was not right when they decided to run away from Cap 3 when it should have been the otherway around.
 
You're not paying much attention to either video clip if you think they're identical, dude.

In one of them, Superman talks. In the other, he doesn't.
I think I did the same thing as he did. I clicked the YouTube link thinking it was the new clip, not the TeamCoco link.

I was like, "WTF? Am I missing something here? I don't hear Superman talking", haha.

And uh yeah, that clip was fine. Christ, I don't know what some of you are expecting out of Cavill for that read. He sounds just fine. It's like a bit of disgust and annoyance, but he's not gonna be yelling it at Batman.
 
Why do they have to go over then top.

Keaton's bat voice was just fine.

I mean he didn't really do a voice...

love Michael Keaton, I really do, but his Batman is a joke compared to Bale's. Christian Bale's Batman would beat him to a pulp and snatch his lunch money. Keaton just wasn't intimidating at all, in voice or stature.

I think Affleck has what it takes to best him. This script is probably trash though so we'll have to wait until the stand alone Bat-film to see some real character.
 
I'm just not feeling with this movie, I think its gonna bomb (relatively speaking, sub-500M)

500M WW? There is no way this film does sub 500M WW. If you're talking about domestic, it could do 460M and that would be more than every Marvel film outside of Avengers.
 
Christ, I don't know what some of you are expecting out of Cavill for that read.

competency.

And it's not like I'm a poster that's known for shitting on either the potential of this production to be very entertaining, or a guy that considers Cavill to be a bad actor. I liked what he did in Man of Steel, and wished he had been given more to do.

But I think he's going for authoritative sneer, and it's not playing. It just comes out listless and detached.

Now granted: It's a single line read, out of context of the film proper. It's hard to extrapolate any real idea of his performance from a single line read in a clip shown on a talk show. Really hard. But that was a bad line reading. There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive in saying so.
 
The delivery by Cavil, yikes!

Every new snippet of this movie gets me less and less interested. And to think the Comic-Con trailer had me so hyped.
 
Now granted: It's a single line read, out of context of the film proper. It's hard to extrapolate any real idea of his performance from a single line read in a clip shown on a talk show. Really hard. But that was a bad line reading. There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive in saying so.

Thank you for this. That is something that many people seem to have a hard time getting.
 
No, not at all. I mean, as always, it depends on the story. But by and large, Batman and Superman respect each other a whole lot and don't want to fight. The most recent fight (that I know of anyway, from Batman 36, has batman summarize it well "Who wins in a fight between Superman and Batman? Neither of us."

Or that whole justice league when Superman was thought to be killed, Batman worked harder than anyone under the suspicion/obsession that Superman was alive somehow.

They're buddies, more often than not.



Yeah, but I also don't want to sit through 2.5 hours of dick measuring competition before we get to that point. And that's what this comes off as. I'd be less resistant to it if wasn't framed in such a juvenile way.

but the source material is. and that's ok. you get a bit of machismo and then differences resolved. let's see what their alter egos deliver. that's where the meat of the argument, the real fight between these two characters will be.
 
Superman's characterisation still seems off to me, I don't like him at all. Hopefully in context there's some sort of slow descent into that irritated jerk persona he's got going on, because then it works.

Man, I never thought I'd say this about Snyder's Batman but he just doesn't come across as cool in this scene. There's no sense of presence. It feels like Superman is talking down to a child.
To be fair Batman fighting Superman is basically this
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competency.

And it's not like I'm a poster that's known for shitting on either the potential of this production to be very entertaining, or a guy that considers Cavill to be a bad actor. I liked what he did in Man of Steel, and wished he had been given more to do.

But I think he's going for authoritative sneer, and it's not playing. It just comes out listless and detached.

Now granted: It's a single line read, out of context of the film proper. It's hard to extrapolate any real idea of his performance from a single line read in a clip shown on a talk show. Really hard. But that was a bad line reading. There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive in saying so.

There's also been a distinct lack of Cavill talking in all the marketing material, as Superman especially. Besides his Clark lines at the party, they've really kept his dialog to a minimum.
 
Y'all aren't even being subtle anymore with the trolling. 1/10 destroyed buildings

I have been hyped for this movie for a longtime until the Doomsday trailer. It killed all hype I had for the movie after this reveal. I personally don't mind batman's Robot voice but Cavill's read there was horrible. He sounded like he didn't even care what was happening.
 
competency.

And it's not like I'm a poster that's known for shitting on either the potential of this production to be very entertaining, or a guy that considers Cavill to be a bad actor. I liked what he did in Man of Steel, and wished he had been given more to do.

But I think he's going for authoritative sneer, and it's not playing. It just comes out listless and detached.

Now granted: It's a single line read, out of context of the film proper. It's hard to extrapolate any real idea of his performance from a single line read in a clip shown on a talk show. Really hard. But that was a bad line reading. There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive in saying so.

Not disagreeing. His handful of other lines in marketing are fine.

This take already appears dubbed. Use another if necessary.
 
competency.

And it's not like I'm a poster that's known for shitting on either the potential of this production to be very entertaining, or a guy that considers Cavill to be a bad actor. I liked what he did in Man of Steel, and wished he had been given more to do.

But I think he's going for authoritative sneer, and it's not playing. It just comes out listless and detached.

Now granted: It's a single line read, out of context of the film proper. It's hard to extrapolate any real idea of his performance from a single line read in a clip shown on a talk show. Really hard. But that was a bad line reading. There doesn't have to be any ulterior motive in saying so.
Eh, he sounded off to me the first time I heard it, but not so much as I replay it. It's a great scene nonetheless. These two characters together carry so much weight it's not even funny.
 
Honestly I hated the delivery of that Batman line in the TV Spot, but now in this Supes line sounds even worse.

Good lord. I think the Batvoice is really good though
 
I thought Cavill's delivery was fine. I would imagine that this is after Batmans reintroduction to gotham and his overzealous crusade against crime and Superman sounds like his had enough of his activities. Enough to slightly piss him off.
 
I love the suit

goodness some debbie downers

I mean if these exact same people put this much effort in other forms of entertainment people would think nothing good would exist in this world
 
they definitely did ADR for Cavill in that scene. He sounds like he's not even there. That combined with Batmans voice filter makes it feel like two people lipsyncing.
 
but the source material is. and that's ok. you get a bit of machismo and then differences resolved. let's see what their alter egos deliver. that's where the meat of the argument, the real fight between these two characters will be.

Well, that's kind of the general point I'm making here. In the announcement, they decided that instead of flat out introducing the movie, they'd choose a quote from the source they were basing the film around.

That was a good way to introduce the movie, I thought. Then I heard it "I want you to remember this Clark..." and my smile dropped. Ugh, frank miller's Batman. It's not even that I think TDKR is a bad comic, but it should not be the face of batman. Angry and bitter and constantly feeling the need to prove he has the biggest penis in the room...

This just isn't cool to me, and I've been edgy around the film since it's established what they're trying to make. As I said, it might be finely written and acted and all that (though I seriously doubt it will be). But on a personal level, even if it ends up being a great movie on a writing level, I have no desire to see Miller's batman as the main face of the character.
 
Everything from this movie has looked so bad. It's either been way too dark and gritty, tonally confused or flat-out incompetent. It's pretty amazing.
 
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