Onimusha78
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A fighter changing class to a warrior loses their shield right?
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Reizo Ryuu
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Well, you don't lose the shield, just the ability to use it.
KCroxtonJr
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Yea, warrior can only use 2h weapons, and also is limited to using only 3 skills at a time (all other classes have 6 available)
Basic vocations aren't worse than advanced vocations, just different. Advanced vocations are combinations of the basic vocations, but they don't carry over all the same abilities as basic vocations.
Here's one example: the mage is a basic class, and the wizard is an advanced class. The wizard has much better offensive spells than the mage, however wizards can't use healing spells and has far fewer support spells.
As for what transfers: Any augment(passive abilities that have limited equippable slots) can be slotted by any class, some weapon skills transfer between classes with the same weapons(E.G. some 1-h sword skills are shared between fighter and Assassin, some spells between mage and wizard), passive weapon skills also transfer(like combo extenders, double jump etc.)
Onimusha78
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Damn.
This is precisely what I want to know. If I buy all the available sword skills on the assasin and then I switch to warrior, will I find any different available skill on the sword tab or I will only have new class-specific skills?
Even if it sounds ridiculously precise it's paramount on the starting choice (Soren).
This is very interesting. Thank you for taking the time.
Magic Knight can use shields if you wanted to go with a class that can. That being said, you should feel free to switch back to Fighter, as it isn't a gimped class or anything.
The only things that a warrior and assassin will be able to share skill-wise are augments(slotted passives). They don't use the same weapons.
Worse then Dragon Age 2, pre-order cancelled.
Warriors have a ton of HP so they can take a beating.
Typically the first few levels have shared skills. If you really want to min-max it out to make sure your starting choice is the most "worthwhile" I'd recommend looking at the wiki for the game. They outline all the skills and shit.
That said, you'll probably find a mix of skills you already have and ones you need to buy. You won't have to re-purchase any skills you already know, though.
Also, yeah. Warrior and Assassin don't share any weapons. Assassin and Fighter do. It's a bit pedantic, but the distinction is important.
It rounds up to whole hours.
To anyone who played as a warrior, is the 3 skills limit ok as it is (balance wise) or would it be better with a 6 skills mod? It seems to me that the warrior would be OP if he had 6 skills, otherwise I could explain why Capcom made it like that.
Onimusha78
Member
Yeah I'll probably just go with the fighter, changing classes to pick up a few skills
Reizo Ryuu
Member
3 is just fine really.
The Warrior has some really nice health augments that transfer, so you'll probably want to give it a shot for awhile when you have a chance.
I found 3 fine. All the other classes save mage/wizard only get 3 per weapon anyway.
If they do make a mod, just stick the other 3 with the support skills. There's like the taunt, the one called Blade Ladder which you can use to launch allies high, that sort of thing.
Onimusha78
Member
Yeah that makes sense
Sorry, I meant fighter or mystic knight, or any other sword-capable vocation. My point is if different vocations have different basic weapon skills available or once you master the sword tree on a vocation you dont have any other skill to buy for the other classes that also use that weapon type.
So what I'm asking about is min-max? I've read about the tearm but the meaning is not quite clear for me. Explained again my question up there.
You are totally right about the difference on vocation names, it was my bad.
Cannon Goose
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The most fun I had in the entire game was when I switched to the Warrior class after trying out all the other ones. For what it lacks in variety it makes up for in sheer strength, which I found to be very satisfying.
FunkyLounge
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Do y'all think that is will be possible to mod a Fighter class to be able to equip 2 sets of abilities? Both R1 and L1 sets?
Every class will have unique weapon skills, but there will also be some shared weapon skills. You'll find a lot of sword skills that can be used by the Assassin, Mystic Knight, and Fighter that are shared, but there will be other skills that aren't.
You mean Warrior, as Fighter has l1 r1 for sword and shield. And, maybe, I dunno. It'd probably break the online if applied to pawns.
Different vocations have different basic weapons skills AND share some. For example: Mystic Knight has Great Cannon on it's sword skill. No other class has that, so they won't get to use Great Cannon. Mystic Knight also has Blitz Strike. Fighter and Assassin can use Blitz Strike, so they'll have it available when you swap to them.
Zomba13
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I played MA on ps3 and it was just as fun as it sounded.
What is up with every gif showing off cool shit being made for ants?
Admiral Woofington
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Maybe there's more to it, but as far as I know just free pawns and also bigger chance they take your pawn with them.
It tends to be compared with Souls game in quality of combat, but they're not similar. It's a very VERY fun combat system though.
Sounds good. I'll wait and see how it plays before using a mod (if there is one at that time).
One of the reasons we need a PC version. Those gifs used to be larger.
That is exactly what I wanted to read. So deep, so much gameplay.
Can't wait. Thank you both.
Personally I used an assassin with sword and board. I don't know if it's the most powerful combo, but i found it really fun to use..
Regarding Vocation discussion. Here's a simple run down. The player will end up using either the assassin, MA or MK. Those classes are unique to the arisen and gameplay wise are the most powerful.
This is to differentiate between the PC and the pawns.
Starting class (1-10) gives a boost to either HP, Max Stam, or magic stats for fighter, strider or mage respectively. After that you can go in many different directions.
Regardless of the class you will eventually pick, there are augments (equipped passive skills) from all classes that you will want.
In the long run it's possible to switch from starting out as a mage and end up as an assassin, it just makes the short term game slightly harder. By the time you reach level 20/25 you will probably have a grasp of what you want and from there you have at least 40 levels to course correct, if not 175.
If you are really unsure how you feel, start out as Strider. Stamina is ALWAYS useful since all classes use it as action points.
Zomba13
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If the OT isn't full of big, beautiful .webms then I'll be disappointed.
Sounds like something Capcom might do, but hilarious all the same.
Probably because they're really easy to find on the Dragons dogma wiki, but they're all super small there.
Allnamestakenlol
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To all of you who are playing it right now... I hate you. I hate you with every fibre of my being. >_<
Karl_Dilkington7
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Awesome! I'm looking forward to that. I'll keep an eye on the OT.
Admiral Woofington
Member
I assume it won't be up till midnight at the earliest considering game doesn't go online for 22-ish more hours
But then I can't play as Geralt
bati
Member
Yeah, no kidding. I was dead set on Assassin but all this MA hype is getting to me. Does the game have any kind of autoaim for bows? I'm not exactly a fan of bow gameplay on the gamepad.
Update: My account has been restored to full functionality. I still can't accept requests just yet since I first need to buy a bunch of cheap cards from the market and craft badges, which I'll do later on (it's 3am here), but I will be able to once that's done.
Edit: Actually, I think Steam prevents sending requests if the user's list is full. I'll get it out of the way now.
Reizo Ryuu
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I think there is very slight auto aim for bows, magick bows lock on so there is no need for that.
I've bought it, I caved. Any ideas how I can get the digital download art book on steam?
and run at 60 fps.
The preorder bonuses should be available after the game unlocks
Admiral Woofington
Member
the digital art book and soundtrack aren't released until the game is unfortunately, so in 22 more hours it'll be out lol