shadowsdarknes
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Yeah people are telling me to tone my disagreement down. For shame.
MLK Day Protesters Block Traffic on the Bay Bridge
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Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Because you're saying dumb shit like this, and this:
You don't get it. You've never tried to understand what's going on here. It's been explained to you over and over and you're still trying to act like a victim here because people have more knowledge than you on this subject. You don't actually care.
What part of this protest told you that these protestors wanted to win your heart?
shadowsdarknes
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It doesn't matter what the cause is, I won't support this action.
It doesn't have to be about being liked. Sorry I don't support fucking everyone's day and blocking key infrastructure for any cause.
And if I were mayor, I'd make sure it doesn't happen again.
Sorry a difference of opinion is so hard for you to swallow. That's life.
Jeffolation
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I'd love to know how.
Right, vaguely threatening language. Tell you what, next black kid that gets killed by a cop, you can make a thread about how your mayoral plans are coming together
shadowsdarknes
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Having police on the bridges prior to this to ensure people don't block traffic. Perfectly reasonable.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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You're the only person here complaining about other opinions impacting you.
Gordon Shumway
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NoblesseOblige
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It really sounds like you're the one having trouble with a difference in opinion.
What if some hypothetical people die due to the mayor reallocating police to a bridge?
shadowsdarknes
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I don't have a problem with people thinking this is okay. I respect a difference of opinions.
You clearly aren't reading.
Kid Kamikaze10
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It's absolutely simple.
People are dying, and the killers are getting away with it, continuing to fuck over communities.
Citizens have known this and have done nothing. Protesters won't accept that.
Protesters are disrupting citizens lives because doing nothing is no longer acceptable to them.
And they really don't care if y'all have a problem with that. And they shouldn't, because your hypothetical people and your personal matters are insignificant to the grand scheme of things.
That grand scheme of things? Black people are fucking dying by the authorities that are supposed to shelter and protect them. And that goes beyond the police and prisons.
People are dying, and the killers are getting away with it, continuing to fuck over communities.
Citizens have known this and have done nothing. Protesters won't accept that.
Protesters are disrupting citizens lives because doing nothing is no longer acceptable to them.
And they really don't care if y'all have a problem with that. And they shouldn't, because your hypothetical people and your personal matters are insignificant to the grand scheme of things.
That grand scheme of things? Black people are fucking dying by the authorities that are supposed to shelter and protect them. And that goes beyond the police and prisons.
Dude, you're totally allowed to have this opinion. But people don't have to pretend that it's valid, and that you get to just drop that opinion into a fairness vacuum where basic empathy and understanding don't apply.
That's harsh, and I'm sure you're a good guy, but try coming at this from a different angle. You're focusing on the wrong injustice.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Again, you're literally the only person here complaining that others don't like your opinion.
Kid Kamikaze10
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Oh and using said murdering forces to stop those looking to end the violence.
Great. Brilliant good sir, brilliant.
Great. Brilliant good sir, brilliant.
LookAtMeGo
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I was just listening to Macka B's song We've had enough and it just feels so crazy that this song was made 30 years ago this year. I know things have been going on a lot longer than that without much change but it just seemed crazy to me how it sounds like this song is just as relevant now as it was then.
I like near the end where he says "find me a weak nation and I will show you a people abused and taken advantage of by others. Show me a weak race and I will show you a people and a nation reduced to peonage, serfdom and slavery. Show me a well organized nation and I will show you a people and a nation respected by the world".
I like near the end where he says "find me a weak nation and I will show you a people abused and taken advantage of by others. Show me a weak race and I will show you a people and a nation reduced to peonage, serfdom and slavery. Show me a well organized nation and I will show you a people and a nation respected by the world".
shadowsdarknes
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It'd be fine if people would simply disagree rather than try to make personal attacks or blatantly misrepresent what I say.
shadowfall
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Luckily I take Bart and yesterday I was not in office. Don't you need permits to do these protests?
If they don't hate police enough already....
Jeffolation
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How would the police know ahead of time where and when these people are going to protest? And if the people decide to protest regardless of a police presence? How does any of this end well?
shadowsdarknes
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There were police at this protest, too. And every other protest and riot. Should they not do their jobs because police are the subject of the protest?
A Link to the Past
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Do bridges typically have the means to have fire hoses set up on them?
As long as they don't disrupt my (or other hypothetical white peoples') day when they're bleeding to death!
EdibleKnife
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If you were mayor, I'd be helpful if you watched your police force to make sure the greivances that lead to such a desperate population didn't occur in the first place instead of just being focused on putting down the rabble rousers because at that point you'd be like so many other government employees who allow strife to fester in their city but are only cocerned about how annoying the people are that come to you suffering rather than listening to their actual qualms
ghostofsparta
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The irony.
A Link to the Past
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I wouldn't trust police to be objective, that's for certain.
NoblesseOblige
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shadowsdarknes
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Who said I wouldn't? But that's one huge run on sentence
Do you think the Boston Tea Party was a good idea?
A Link to the Past
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Police will spank the protesters just like they spank their five-year-olds
with high-pressure water
KingHenrik30
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All cops are murderers?
A Link to the Past
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I feel bad because I chuckled at that, the delivery was really funny.
No, the system just protects the ones that are. It's safer however to assume that for any cop you see, they may be dangerous, or may defend dangerous cops.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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10/10
Gordon Shumway
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You didn't say shit about helping the people being harassed and murdered by police, the only thing you have bitched about so far is making sure those pesky protesters can inconvenience people. Oh and having your police force meet them there...
Of course, that is the kind of thing that makes MLK proud, not like these road blocking thugs.
shadowsdarknes
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I've said plenty of times in this thread that I'm sympathetic to their cause. To the same poster I was even quoting, too.You didn't say shit about helping the people being harassed and murdered by police, the only thing you have bitched about so far is making sure those pesky protesters can inconvenience people. Oh and having your police force meet them there...
The poster just doesn't care. It's easier to argue that way.
That's not what you said. Guarding a bridge to squash potential protests is not part of their job, yet it's what you would make them do.
Not that I trust US police to do what is considered their job, well, especially when it comes to things like this.
NoblesseOblige
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Hypothetically, yes.
Gordon Shumway
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shadowsdarknes
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Squash? I didn't say that.
Crimson_Gold
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Grammar grenade hurled.
Nothing wrong with having a different viewpoint. Nothing wrong with not being sympathetic to the cause. The reality of the situation is this, people are dying and nothing is being done about it. Your viewpoint isn't fixing the issue. If people were as concerned with fixing the issue behind the protest as they are with decrying the method used, the issue would be fixed. Instead, we have mental gymnastics and decathletes from the idgaf Olympics claiming moral superiority and having legitimate concern for hypothetical individuals passing away in circumstances that the facts of this instance render impossible.
But only as long as they follow your idea of respectability when protesting for said cause?
means what then?
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Is this all just a "I didn't use that exact word" semantics game?
Yaphett Kotto
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That is what you got out of that post?
EdibleKnife
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Because even now without any power you're still more concerned about the ways this desperate population is airing their grievances rather than why. Even though we've discussed the emergency lanes, even though all the arguments about people rushing to do XYZ are done, still there are several people in your camp showing no sympathy because their civil disobedience is inconveniencing someone right now
A Link to the Past
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What would they be doing on the bridge?
Exr
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Why do you keep doing this? You can disagree with the method of protest and also still sympathize. Not liking the method of protest doesnt mean youre a racist, as much as many posters in here will try to push.You didn't say shit about helping the people being harassed and murdered by police, the only thing you have bitched about so far is making sure those pesky protesters can inconvenience people. Oh and having your police force meet them there...
Of course, that is the kind of thing that makes MLK proud, not like these road blocking thugs.
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