Muskieratboi
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Dude, First Rule.
The Division - 15 minutes of new gameplay
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So it's just come to my attention that the Brooklyn section of the map was cut even though it was in that december live action trailer and previous gameplay footage. It's now strictly Midtown Manhattan...
Also the Demographic Matchmaking system was cut too
Curious if they are doing this with DLC in mind
Also the Demographic Matchmaking system was cut too
Curious if they are doing this with DLC in mind
Damn, GTX 970, if true I wonder how many pissed off people there will be calling it unoptimized. The game looks really good even on the Xbox One, so I can only imagine.
Although the only confusing thing is a guy with a GTX 650Ti was able to achieve 720p/60fps on low, so I guess it's not that surprising?
EDIT: GTX 970 only gets 35fps 1080p ultra? God damn, looks like a GTX 980Ti @ 1440p won't be able to get 60fps on ultra
Unless I'm getting baited?
gutterboy44
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Anyone know when the beta pre load starts on PS4?
This used to be a bannable offense, did GAF get soft or something?
M.W.
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Week from today
Believe 48 hours before the beta.
Xamtheking
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Mods arent omnipotent
It might take some time
gutterboy44
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Thanks. Plenty of time to d/l before it kicks off. Want to maximize time with my friends in the beta.
GustyGardens
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They also mentioned that Midtown was a 1:1 replica, which is mind-boggling. If that's the case, I'm okay with Brooklyn and other cities coming in later as DLC, especially with that attention to detail.
Damn, GTX 970, if true I wonder how many pissed off people there will be calling it unoptimized. The game looks really good even on the Xbox One, so I can only imagine.
Although the only confusing thing is a guy with a GTX 650Ti was able to achieve 720p/60fps on low, so I guess it's not that surprising?
EDIT: GTX 970 only gets 35fps 1080p ultra? God damn, looks like a GTX 980Ti @ 1440p won't be able to get 60fps on ultra
Unless I'm getting baited?
Recommended usually means normal settings@60..........not Ultra
I don't get why people freak out over this. If you can get 30fps at ultra on a 970
you could easily probably run the game 60fps on normal on quite a few cards.
This screams scalability.
Damn, GTX 970, if true I wonder how many pissed off people there will be calling it unoptimized. The game looks really good even on the Xbox One, so I can only imagine.
Although the only confusing thing is a guy with a GTX 650Ti was able to achieve 720p/60fps on low, so I guess it's not that surprising?
EDIT: GTX 970 only gets 35fps 1080p ultra? God damn, looks like a GTX 980Ti @ 1440p won't be able to get 60fps on ultra
Unless I'm getting baited?
This is why settings have been invented, so you can tune them when your system fails to perform as well as you think it should.
I will certainly not be surprised if a 980ti is not enough for ultra/60fps, in fact I hope it's not so the game is as scalable as possible.
Unless I can run this Ultra @ 1440p 60fps. I don't want it. Top of the line card, gets top of the line settings.
Somewhat sarcasm, although I still expect ultra settings when you have the best GPU on the market.
No.
It never worked like that, you are not entitled to ultra settings with a 980ti.
It's a good thing games push the hardware.
Why would you want The Division not to scale beyond your GPU ? Fragile ego ?
There is no reason to "demand" max settings even if you happen to have one of the fastest card on the market at the time of writing, this is PC gaming we are talking about.
If you want tech to be artificially restricted this is not the platform for you.
So I'm sorry but your argument holds no water at all to me, let PC games scale as high as they can and contrary to what you may believe devs are not limited by the laws of physics so it's not difficult for them to crush the strongest hardware available of today with superbly written codes. The 980ti is no meager GPU but I'm positive it is possible to bring it to its knee with ambitious rendering techniques (I'm completely disregarding things like SSAA/DSR).
I have to admit it is fairly disappointing to see this mindset bleeding into PC gaming. I can't seem to pinpoint the root of this plague.
Settings can be adjusted, no one is "punished" so what's all the fuss about ? I don't care if I'm in a position of "maxing" out anything, I just want a balance between performance and visuals, and I'm highly impressed with what multiplats have been able to do with higher end PC hardware ever since this gen of consoles started.
Darryl M R
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Have you received a beta code to have the beta client pop up on the ps4 homescreen?
Because the game isn't blowing my mind. It isn't even Crysis 3 levels. It's good looking, but not something that should require that much.
Unless they can optimize it in the next 2 months, or they are marketing towards GTX 970's, I don't want to hear it.
Hell even GTA V looks on par with The Division at times, and not only is it older, but it's bigger as well and does more.
gutterboy44
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I pre-ordered through PSN. Do you still receive a beta code via email?
Nyteshade517
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probably not until Wednesday...apparently they'll send codes out 48 hours before the start
edit: way too slow
Jackbooted
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From the last information I received from a PM with a mod, you won't get banned from GAF for posting NDA information. I think there even was a post from Evilore that GAF doesn't have any responsibility to uphold NDAs. Now, it would totally be within Ubisoft's right to remove you from the beta test for leaking the information if they could somehow trace your account to the post...
Either way, glad to see positive impressions. I enjoyed the alpha and look forward to the beta.
We have not seen ultra PC footage. No doubt it won't look quite as impressive as it once appeared, but PC multiplats (most of them at least) are not taxing without reason.
Whether or not you can actually see it is orthogonal to our discussion. I do not believe for a second that the only way a 980ti could not run The Division at 1440p/60fps/ultra settings is because optimization is lacking.
We need more high quality PC footage.
Entitlement levels maximised.
No it doesn't, division has 4 times the amount of detail.
Which we will get on Friday.
I'm still skeptical, naturally. Even the leaked Russian youtube videos on Ultra weren't impressive, but I'm chalking that one to bad recording or something. But if for some reason the game looks similar to that leak, I'll be disappointed and will assume optimization at that point.
I don't know about 4 times the amount of detail, where are you pulling these numbers from? I mean The Division doesn't even have real-time bullet based physics. It's not a twitch shooter that requires some precise computing, the world is overall empty sans 4 people, npcs, and maybe another 2 squads into the dark zone - overall 12 people. Hardly what I call taxing.
Not entitled, but realistic about what I expect graphically and fps-wise from the game.
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"According to Rockstar, the recommended specifications are based on hardware that can run the game at 1080p, at 60 frames-per-second. For that, Rockstar suggest a Nvidia GTX 660 2GB or AMD HD7870 2GB." - Source
Rockstar's recommended meant 1080p/60fps. It's what I'm going by when we assume recommended. This isn't a console, a GTX 970 should not be needed to only hit 1080p/30fps.
CyberPunked
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Isn't this what users like Shinobi are famous for on Gaf?
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The Division looks like AC Syndicate quality tbh. That is, lots less depth, GI, and PBR than a game like Unity got my open world expectations up to. It has that largely matte Ubisoft engine look, partially due to lack of crispness in textures.
GAF isn't about being a channel to abet NDA breaks, which are not fair to game creators
Nyteshade517
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if those specs are to be believed (seem legit enough) then I should be able to run the game ok...4690K, 16 GB RAM, 290X...but may have to tweak a lot or just lock the framerate to lessen any issues
Crossing Eden
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People really need to stop misusing the word optimization. Christ. If the game is scalable on multiple levels of hardware yet also future proofed for hardware in the future than it is optimized.
Because just like others have stated that can ruin it for others.
The battleborn alpha/beta was under NDA but people still talked about the game and no one got banned so maybe
I don't see why GAF would be liable for Publisher prerogatives, but we seem to be in the minority in this thread.
I will not. 1440p and 60fps is a tall order for any GPU when games start to pile up sophisticated rendering techniques.
Nothing is free rendering wise, keep that in mind.
I would not call that realistic at all. Remember : there are games which max settings can bring a 980ti below 60fps at times, at 1440p the chances increase.
Rockstar targetted medium settings/60fps for GTA 5. Or high/30fps if you prefer.
I completely disagree with your assertion that a 970 is too much for 30fps, it all depends on what the game has to offer graphics wise.
This. Only the person playing signed the NDA and as such no one else is bound besides him.
If he tells me everything and I share it, they cant do anything to me. I never signed anything.
I assume most of the people are either worried about their access (why would they remove it for everyone?) or mad because they cant play it yet.
Maybe some are scared they may have to backtrack on their graphical assumptions about the PC version ahead of schedule?
It's not about being fair to creators. GAF is an independent entity.
GAF isn't responsible for what publisher's think. We have had many leakers come to this forum.
Yeah, it's only logical. Also, I believe Tyler himself said that GAF isn't responsible for upholding any NDA.
Tallshortman
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Does Amazon pre-order get me in on the beta?
As long as it's not digital
While a playerbase is good. Its not that important i think with this game then for example a Battlefield game or something. Think where your friends are on is abit more important. if you are planing to playing alot of co-op.
Yes, they will email you a code.
Likely so. I'm in the same exact boat.
I'm going to take a look at the PC beta and make a final call. The community on the consoles will likely be larger but I'm not sure I want to give up the eye candy and frame rate.
Different company, different games, different technology, different engines, different online integration, different size teams... Different amount of polygons, different textures lighting effects, other players.... And a cross platform release (GTAV got another 2 years of dev for PC.
Your comparasons and expectations are your problem.
Also, its dynamic 24 player plus NPCs.
Broadbandito
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There are other backpacks...