Destiny has gone stagnant - It's time for Destiny to show its hand [EUROGAMER]

Danthrax

Batteries the CRISIS!
Eurogamer said:
There are various reasons for this, but most seem to stem from Bungie's constant struggle to keep players busy. It's like that scene in The Wrong Trousers where Gromit is trying to lay track while riding on the train just behind. Bungie has been fighting to stay in front of its player base ever since Destiny vanilla launched.

Great reference, love Eurogamer.

Leaks seem to suggest that Bungie and Activision don't even know what Destiny's hand is, so how can they reveal their hand? It sounds like things are a mess behind the scenes and the lack of communication seems to confirm that.
 
These people would have lose their mind in the old days. There was a 3 year gap between Halo 2's last meaningful DLC and Halo 3. It's only been 3 weeks since the last new content and people are going "the game has no content!!"

Yeah, but you're ignoring the context of the situation.

People knew there would be another big halo game in the future, one that would likely be an overhaul on a next gen system.

People don't know what's going on with Destiny because it borrows a lot from an MMO formula, and people are worried that a big jump makes their current character more and more obsolete.

Look at the transition between Dark Below and House of Wolves, compared to House of Wolves and Taken King.

When House of Wolves came out, you didn't have to start over, you progressed. You had side grades and options.

When Taken King came out, 90% of your shit was now worthless, and you had to effectively start all over.

People are worried the longer we go without news or an "expansion" of any kind, the more likely they will have to start all over.

You can't treat your community likes it's an FPS community only when it's convenient for you. You also can't treat your community like it's an MMO community only when it's convenient for you.
 

Dartastic

Member
Destiny is a 60 dollar game with no subscription fee and I am shocked that there are so many articles basically demanding constant streams of content for the game. I play it as well, but certainly not as much as a lot of people. I think my light level is around 270? Anyway. Destiny has provided me plenty of enjoyment and it's pretty ridiculous to keep demanding more from it.
 

Zeta Oni

Member
There are various reasons for this, but most seem to stem from Bungie's constant struggle to keep players busy. It's like that scene in The Wrong Trousers where Gromit is trying to lay track while riding on the train just behind. Bungie has been fighting to stay in front of its player base ever since Destiny vanilla launched.

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Flintty

Member
I'm not surprised about the complaints, they are fully justified. I cringe when I think about how much money I spent on Destiny, mine and my sons accounts combined, including all DLC. Obscene money for little content. Then they add insult to injury by bringing in microtransactions. Bungie really needs to think about their business model for Destiny 2. At the moment they want their cake and to eat it and I ain't baking it no more.
 

KJRS_1993

Member
Advanced Warfare isn't a persistent online universe styled after an mmo. Advanced warfare's story was finished when you beat the last level. Advanced Warfare has already been replaced by its sequel, black ops 3. Advanced warfare had a steady stream of content right up until said sequel was released. Advanced warfare never had an expectation set by the developer that it would have a content plan with frequent updates, like other persistent online community based rpg styles games. Advanced warfare didn't model itself after Diablo 3, which just received yet another huge free update filled with new areas and content.

Sorry to be harsh but this post is incredibly stupid.

You could have replaced Advanced Warfare with Borderlands or any other game ever, that's not the point I was trying to make.

The point I'm trying to make is that eventually, the content stops. The game ends. "Persistent online universe" or not, no game gets supported forever, and Destiny has reached that point.

I suppose if you didn't just take the replaceable two words "Advanced Warfare" from the entire post and run a forkin mile with them, the post would have sounded a little less stupid.
 

Raven117

Member
The Destiny community just needs to let it go.

The hardcore have beaten the game....Time to move on.

Come back when new content gets announced.
 
You could have replaced Advanced Warfare with Borderlands or any other game ever, that's not the point I was trying to make.

The point I'm trying to make is that eventually, the content stops. The game ends. "Persistent online universe" or not, no game gets supported forever, and Destiny has reached that point.

I suppose if you didn't just take the replaceable two words "Advanced Warfare" from the entire post and run a forkin mile with them, the post would have sounded a little less stupid.

Your point isn't accurate, though.

Bungie told us that Destiny was designed around a 10 year plan. When they do talk about the future, they mention that the same characters we have now, will be the ones we'll carry through all the way to the end.

Bungie has told us Destiny will be a consistently evolving game. Yet, their actions don't match their intentions.

It's not that we're entitled. It's that we've actually been told to expect one thing, and then receive another.
 

FyreWulff

Member
Yeah, but you're ignoring the context of the situation.

I have more context than most.

It's also only been 3 weeks since the last content drop, and most developers at this time are just getting everyone back from a holiday. Jan-February has always been, relatively, a quieter period for everyone in the industry. Partly because everyone is sort of getting the machine running again after a long holiday, but also because a lot of fiscal years end in March, so publishers and companies tend to wait until the fiscal year rolls over for multiple various reasons that are more industry "how sausage is made" than can fit in a forum post.

If it were like.. June, and there had been no content and no news since December, I'd be concerned. For the industry, nobody traditionally expects huge news in this time period.

As it is, they announced a February Valentines event just last week. I don't expect them to trample over an actual announced event we'll have in two weeks by steamrolling it with news of later, bigger content.

The internet narrative and reality just aren't syncing up on my end, here. And I'm one of the hugely critical people of Bungie.
 
I think a few things are happening:

(1) They really are struggling to find the right release schedule for content and they were and likely continue to be in negotiations with Activision to work something out. They flat out said they can't keep up with an "every 3 or 4 months" type thing like they did in year one.

(2) Right now, they are catching the backlash of an MMO crowd, when the game is only partially an MMO. Everyone keeps saying "Destiny is losing the crowd!" Yeah, it is...but you also pay by installment not by month . . . So...the crowd may very well come back...Whats the problem?

(3) I think many hardcore gamers feel a little hurt. The hardcore stuck with Destiny when lots of sources and folks thought it was a awful game. The hardcore kept trumpeting how good it was. How the shooting was great...how the raids were fun...etc...etc. Did this for an entire year....Then...to hear nothing about upcoming content for 4 months...(real content...not events)...sucks. Not to mention the state of the game is rocky.

In the end...it comes down to gamers who really enjoyed playing Destiny feel disrespected.

Bungie is in a tough spot. Im sure its the nuts and bolts of game development along with the schedule of Activision is what is driving a lot of Bungie's silence.

I understand the salt, but I don't understand the what feels like real disappointment. Take some time to play something else...Come back when they release more content. There were some great games that released last year, and some solid ones on the way. Play those!
This is a reasonable post. I do think it's past time for them to announce something.
 

Defuser

Member
Your point isn't accurate, though.

Bungie told us that Destiny was designed around a 10 year plan. When they do talk about the future, they mention that the same characters we have now, will be the ones we'll carry through all the way to the end.

Bungie has told us Destiny will be a consistently evolving game. Yet, their actions don't match their intentions.

It's not that we're entitled. It's that we've actually been told to expect one thing, and then receive another.

In the latest issue of Edge, Bungie community and marketing relations manager Eric ‘Urk’ Osborne reveals a ten-year agreement does exist, but it's not quite what you think: "Those things were so distracting, and not about the experience we were creating," he says in the latest issue of Edge. "It just became the narrative. I mean, I drive a Honda Civic. I don’t know shit about $500 million. A ten-year plan? It’s a ten-year partnership agreement. It has nothing to do with the development of the game proper.
http://www.gamesradar.com/bungie-says-theres-no-10-year-plan-destiny/
 
Taken king has been out for barely 4 months and in that time they've released new content. What are people expecting? A new raid? How long will they keep people happy vs how much work it would take?

They've already said more content is coming. It's not even February. Seriously people, there are other games. Do your dailies and go play witcher or something. I promise bungie doesn't mind.

Gotta agree with this. The whining has cropped up way too fast considering games like WoW can go a full year between major content drops. Destiny doesn't even have subs like WoW, it's not like you're paying Bungie and getting nothing for it. Just go play something else for awhile and come back when there is something to do.

I don't even want them to put out more content for the current game to be honest. I've had enough of Destiny 1 for a bit and I want them to really focus on making Destiny 2 a great game. I got my $40 out of TKK, I'm happy to let it be for a few months and just come back when Bungie has something to show for it.
 

Trojan

Member
People are expecting too much from this game. It's been out for almost a year and a half. At some point after playing hundreds of hours, the content will dry up. If you've exhausted the content, move on to a new game.

It would certainly be a good gesture if Bungie came out and explained their long term plan, but they're not obligated too. Expect them not to release any more significant DLC and move on.
 

KJRS_1993

Member
Your point isn't accurate, though.

Bungie told us that Destiny was designed around a 10 year plan. When they do talk about the future, they mention that the same characters we have now, will be the ones we'll carry through all the way to the end.

Bungie has told us Destiny will be a consistently evolving game. Yet, their actions don't match their intentions.

It's not that we're entitled. It's that we've actually been told to expect one thing, and then receive another.

Was that 10 year plan ever confirmed by Bungie, or was that just part of the Activision leak? Either which way, I don't see why the fact that constant content updates have ended means that they're turning back on what was said about carrying your character through to the end. You'll have your character - in the sequel. Similar to Mass Effect I suppose.

Destiny has constantly evolved. Compare the changes from Year 1 to Year 2, even if you never bought a single expansion.

It's definite entitlement. I'm not a Bungie apologist by any stretch and I enjoy the game very much, but nothing goes on forever. I'd rather they just worked on the next game.

Doesnt help that Bungie have the worst community manager on the Internet, as well a complete imbecile in charge of the project in the form of Luke Smith.

And this, despite it being pretty harsh. I made a post a couple of hours ago effectively saying the same.
They just need to say outside of small events, no other substantial content is coming and put everyone out of their misery.
 

atpbx

Member
Doesnt help that Bungie have the worst community manager on the Internet, as well a complete imbecile in charge of the project in the form of Luke Smith.

I wont be buying another Destiny game.
 

FyreWulff

Member
Doesnt help that Bungie have the worst community manager on the Internet, as well a complete imbecile in charge of the project in the form of Luke Smith.

With hyperbole like that, no wonder 4 out of 5 internet posters prefer Smuckers Grape Juice
 
Was that 10 year plan ever confirmed by Bungie, or was that just part of the Activision leak? Either which way, I don't see why the fact that constant content updates have ended means that they're turning back on what was said about carrying your character through to the end. You'll have your character - in the sequel. Similar to Mass Effect I suppose.

Destiny has constantly evolved. Compare the changes from Year 1 to Year 2, even if you never bought a single expansion.

It's definite entitlement. I'm not a Bungie apologist by any stretch and I enjoy the game very much, but nothing goes on forever. I'd rather they just worked on the next game.

Please stop using the world entitlement if you do not understand what it means.
Now on the topic and hand can bungie not support destiny 1 in a meaningful way while working on destiny 2 like you imply?
I don't see why bungie can't update the first game with new DLC packs like they did with year 1 until the 2nd game is out.
 

Cruxist

Member
I'm a hardcore Destiny lover. I'll continue to sing the games praises. But the malaise is real only if Destiny is the one game you play. Since the game is expansion based, I assume most of the folks who left will hop back in for the next content drop. But for now, I'm enjoying Fallout and AC Syndicate.
 

cakely

Member
The thirst for new content is real. It's a strange that it's only been four months since The Taken King launched, but somehow Destiny still seems a little neglected.

I've still been playing the crap out of it, though.
 

KJRS_1993

Member
Please stop using the world entitlement if you do not understand what it means.
Now on the topic and hand can bungie not support destiny 1 in a meaningful way while working on destiny 2 like you imply?
I don't see why bungie can't update the first game with new DLC packs like they did with year 1 until the 2nd game is out.

I definitely understand what it means. You can disagree with me using it, but saying "I don't understand it" is a lazy ass way of trying to close down the discussion. A large portion of the community feels like they're owed more content until the sequel is out. Tell me how that goes against what warped definition of "entitled" that you obviously use?

Definitely they can (and do) still support Destiny. The Crucible lag and balance is awful, their are bugs still popping up every now and then, they are putting in these small events. But large DLC packs and the kind? I don't know why they're not doing it. Poor dev tools as hinted on Kotaku? They want to focus on developing Destiny 2? Possibly?
But do they have to make anything? No.
 
The thirst for new content is real. It's a strange that it's only been four months since The Taken King launched, but somehow Destiny still seems a little neglected.

I've still been playing the crap out of it, though.

Keep in mind last year even if new content was not out bungie was talking about the future of the game at all times When people started getting bored of the base game they were talking about TDB and then again with HOW and when people got bored of that they had a lot of new info on TTK
Even if we did not have much in the game we had a lot of info for what is to come and for the first time ever we have nothing so the backlash is real.
 

Tensketch

Member
I've only just recently bought Destiny and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

- Everyone is Level 40 and I don't know how
- Because everyone is level 40 there is 0 point in playing pvp as I just get destroyed and my team loses
- I think I'm supposed to play TTK after I've beat the main game. I think? I don't know.
- Everything is super expensive, priced at 2000 and I maybe make 100 an hour.
- I'll be running around doing a single player mission, when suddenly 4 level 40 players will just be randomly knocking about shooting what appears to be smoke monsters from LOST.

NO idea!
 

FyreWulff

Member
for the first time ever we have nothing

They just announced that there's going to be a February Valentine's Day Event with a special Doubles Playlist to go with it.

Festival of Lost wasn't announced until after Taken King, SRL wasn't announced before Festival was over, and Valentines wasn't announced before SRL was over. Logic and history dictates that whatever is coming later this year isn't going to be used to bury the event that's closer to coming up.

I'm not saying people have to like whatever is coming for this February event, but to say Bungie has nothing announced and plated up is just a tad misleading.

I've only just recently bought Destiny and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

- Everyone is Level 40 and I don't know how
- Because everyone is level 40 there is 0 point in playing pvp as I just get destroyed and my team loses
- I think I'm supposed to play TTK after I've beat the main game. I think? I don't know.
- Everything is super expensive, priced at 2000 and I maybe make 100 an hour.
- I'll be running around doing a single player mission, when suddenly 4 level 40 players will just be randomly knocking about shooting what appears to be smoke monsters from LOST.

NO idea!

I got ya:
level 40 is reached via just playing the game and leveling up.

regular crucible (ie, anything not Iron Banner or Trials of Osiris) is damage leveled, everyone's guns and stuff does the same damage as everyone else. you do lack some of the extra perks they have.

yes. follow the quests - they'll guide you into playing the TTK storyline.

don't worry about buying items right now. you'll start getting glimmer faster as you do harder missions with more enemies, and new stuff will drop often enough in Strikes that you shouldn't have to pay for much of anything.

Those are people fighting Taken in public patrol areas. Certain areas on planets and destinations are marked 'public', so people on other missions and patrols can be integrated into your game.
 
The thirst for new content is real. It's a strange that it's only been four months since The Taken King launched, but somehow Destiny still seems a little neglected.

I've still been playing the crap out of it, though.

It would help if Bungie wouldn't insist on making older content useless. There are a ton of strikes in the game but only a handful show up in any useful playlists. I actually MISS Sepiks Prime!
 

mclem

Member
I've only just recently bought Destiny and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

- Everyone is Level 40 and I don't know how
- Because everyone is level 40 there is 0 point in playing pvp as I just get destroyed and my team loses
- I think I'm supposed to play TTK after I've beat the main game. I think? I don't know.
- Everything is super expensive, priced at 2000 and I maybe make 100 an hour.
- I'll be running around doing a single player mission, when suddenly 4 level 40 players will just be randomly knocking about shooting what appears to be smoke monsters from LOST.

NO idea!

I've actually been wondering about starting Destiny sometime this year, and one of the things I've come to the conclusion of - if nothing else - is that I'll enjoy it a lot more if I get a few other brand-new players to do so at the same time.
 
I definitely understand what it means. You can disagree with me using it, but saying "I don't understand it" is a lazy ass way of trying to close down the discussion. A large portion of the community feels like they're owed more content until the sequel is out. Tell me how that goes against what warped definition of "entitled" that you obviously use?

Definitely they can (and do) still support Destiny. The Crucible lag and balance is awful, their are bugs still popping up every now and then, they are putting in these small events. But large DLC packs and the kind? I don't know why they're not doing it. Poor dev tools as hinted on Kotaku? They want to focus on developing Destiny 2? Possibly?
But do they have to make anything? No.

The community expected things to be better in year 2 for content not worse and looking at the gaming space as a whole and F2P it's shocking to so bungie run the game so poorly with such a huge staff and budget while smaller dev teams pump out far more with less.
On a personal note I don't care about the struggle of bad dev tools are having to make it work on last gen I just want a reason to log onto the game but the "updates" have added very little to the core gameplay of shoot and loot style of gameplay they have been working to improve.
 
I've only just recently bought Destiny and I have no idea what the hell I'm doing.

- Everyone is Level 40 and I don't know how
- Because everyone is level 40 there is 0 point in playing pvp as I just get destroyed and my team loses
- I think I'm supposed to play TTK after I've beat the main game. I think? I don't know.
- Everything is super expensive, priced at 2000 and I maybe make 100 an hour.
- I'll be running around doing a single player mission, when suddenly 4 level 40 players will just be randomly knocking about shooting what appears to be smoke monsters from LOST.

NO idea!

Have you played a game with an XP system before?

You are introduced to the idea of gaining levels in the very first mission of the game, before you can enter any social space or PvP game. This shouldn't be hard to understand how you reach level 40.

PvP (except for specific modes named Iron Banner and Trials of Osiris) is normalized. So a level 2 can kill a level 40 just fine.

TTK is the addition of the main story, mostly. If you're playing the "story mode" of the game, you'll be introduced to the Taken King missions around level 25.

Everything is super expensive because you're new. Typically games don't let you buy the crazy good stuff right at the beginning.

Finally, those level 40 players are scaled down to the level of the enemies in the area. If an area has level 12 enemies. Anyone above level 12 will be scaled down to make the level 12 enemies a threat.
 

Kill3r7

Member
Taken king has been out for barely 4 months and in that time they've released new content. What are people expecting? A new raid? How long will they keep people happy vs how much work it would take?

They've already said more content is coming. It's not even February. Seriously people, there are other games. Do your dailies and go play witcher or something. I promise bungie doesn't mind.

That's the problem though. Destiny was like a drug. It exposed the casual crowd to an MMO lite experience and people who rarely played games outside of COD, Madden, Fifa etc were hooked on it and spend hundreds, if not thousands, of hours playing (speaking from experience). Now the content has trickled down to a few special events and there is little reason to still grind.
 

Spades

Member
The Destiny community just needs to let it go.

The hardcore have beaten the game....Time to move on.

Come back when new content gets announced.

Part of what makes the Destiny community so great is that a large number of the hardcore, stay to help others through the end-game content also.

Naturally they do this because they enjoy playing the game so much, so normally they don't want to move on; they just want more things to do in Destiny.
 

KJRS_1993

Member
The community expected things to be better in year 2 for content not worse and looking at the gaming space as a whole and F2P it's shocking to so bungie run the game so poorly with such a huge staff and budget while smaller dev teams pump out far more with less.
On a personal note I don't care about the struggle of bad dev tools are having to make it work on last gen I just want a reason to log onto the game but the "updates" have added very little to the core gameplay of shoot and loot style of gameplay they have been working to improve.

I get that. We were all expecting another two paid-for DLC packs, as per the leak. Unfortunately though, these plans were never confirmed or even acknowledged as being accurate, and plans change.

I agree that the game has been run pretty poorly so far. It's been anything but smooth and professional - like that Gromitt gif someone posted earlier. Especially the community managers.

Unfortunately, you don't have a reason to log into many games that were released September 2014. The game has kept everyone captive for 15 months, and that in itself is an achievement. But it's gotta end someday!
 

Raven117

Member
Part of what makes the Destiny community so great is that a large number of the hardcore, stay to help others through the end-game content also.

Naturally they do this because they enjoy playing the game so much, so normally they don't want to move on; they just want more things to do in Destiny.

Im with you. I totally understand as I too have hundreds of hours in Destiny and enjoyed my time with the game.

We will get more content. That I assure you.

But sometimes, ya just have to move on...Bungie (or any game developer) can't keep the community fed all the time.
 

Sciz

Member
Following that WoW release schedule of a year-long content drought between the last major patch and the next major release, I see.
 

MrBenchmark

Member
As a Alpha , Beta and current player on both platforms. Yeah I know I have a problem , a few things they could do.

Stop treating us like a science experiment.

Unfuck all the weapon nerfs that were NOT necessary.

Bring back the rest of the weapons and armor exotics from year one yeah I mean Vex, Ghally and Ice breaker to name a few.

Get rid of skill based matchmaking they slipped this in and this is when the real lag began.

Make old raids have a current level difficulty with appropriate weapon drops.

Fix the little things like the reef cryptarc stealing our shit.

There are so many little things they could do I could go on and on.

And Deej needs to stop being so condescending in the updates. I'm a grown ass man but when I read these updates I'm like WTF man.

I really could go on about tons of world things they could fix. Things they broke.
 
That's the problem though. Destiny was like a drug. It exposed the casual crowd to an MMO lite experience and people who rarely played games outside of COD, Madden, Fifa etc were hooked on it and spend hundreds, if not thousands, of hours playing (speaking from experience).

The problem is Bungie set precedence.

Vanilla came out in Sept of 14.
Dark Below came out in Dec of 14.
House of Wolves came out in May of 15.
Taken King came out in Sept of 15.


Up until now, we've gotten very large content drops every 4ish months. If you want to continue this with the newer style content we've got

Festival of the Lost came out in Oct 15
Sparrow Racing League came out in Dec 15
Crimson Doubles comes out in Feb 15.

The problem is the "content" of these last three items is much smaller compared to the other content drops, and is only temporary.

If someone bought the game on February 18th, they'd have the exact same product as someone who bought the game on September 28th. Which makes the last 3 content drops seems worthless in the big picture.
 

keenerz

Member
kind of sad to see the way this game has gone, I think the promise and the idea are really great but man the execution constantly has been a chore to like this game. There was a period where I was really into it but the more and more you see the less and less you like it.

Whats amazing is the amount of defense some people are willing to throw at everyone, I guess after people having a trendy "hate" for destiny makes all of em super defensive. But like they gotta see that there is some truth to the criticism.
 
I get that. We were all expecting another two paid-for DLC packs, as per the leak. Unfortunately though, these plans were never confirmed or even acknowledged as being accurate, and plans change.

I agree that the game has been run pretty poorly so far. It's been anything but smooth and professional - like that Gromitt gif someone posted earlier. Especially the community managers.

Unfortunately, you don't have a reason to log into many games that were released September 2014. The game has kept everyone captive for 15 months, and that in itself is an achievement. But it's gotta end someday!

Just to add to this since I think it's worth discussing further.

I feel like bungie could have or still could do a lot of things to ease the disappointment that the players feel right now but it just feels like they kind of thew TTK out with no clue how to follow it up. I think the fans would have loved the event updates if they
were also getting that DLC.


As far as it needs to end I agree it needs to end at some point but it does not feel like this was the planned end with how they talked about the live team I think they kind of just misread the market thinking they would be happy with just small updates.

At the end of the day the fanbase is unhappy and bungie needs to find a way to fix it be it now or when the 2nd game comes out,I don't think they can let this happen again as the fans will be even more upset if it happens twice.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Everyone I know who plays Destiny loves it. Everyone I know who plays any video games always wants more content for the things they love. Lots of people I know who play Destiny religiously still haven't seen the bulk of what's in TTK.
 

RedAssedApe

Banned
don't play this anymore but found it odd that sparrow racing was a limited time thing instead of a permanent addition to the game
 

commish

Jason Kidd murdered my dog in cold blood!
i'm shocked that people are still logging in and playing Destiny. There's been no real new content for months, which is why I jumped ship. The saddest part is that Bungie could so easily feed players new content - re-release the old strikes, for goodness sakes! Add a new gun! Re-release VOG but with scaled up enemies!

But what do we get?

Nothing.

I'll still buy Destiny 2 because I loved my time with Destiny, but it's definitely a game that you play for a while then drop until the next expansion pack. Bungie just isn't interested in maintaining the game between releases.

don't play this anymore but found it odd that sparrow racing was a limited time thing instead of a permanent addition to the game

I honestly would love to hear the real reason for decisions like this. Just make no sense.
 

Kill3r7

Member
The problem is Bungie set precedence.

Vanilla came out in Sept of 14.
Dark Below came out in Dec of 14.
House of Wolves came out in May of 15.
Taken King came out in Sept of 15.


Up until now, we've gotten very large content drops every 4ish months. If you want to continue this with the newer style content we've got

Festival of the Lost came out in Oct 15
Sparrow Racing League came out in Dec 15
Crimson Doubles comes out in Feb 15.

The problem is the "content" of these last three items is much smaller compared to the other content drops, and is only temporary.

If someone bought the game on February 18th, they'd have the exact same product as someone who bought the game on September 28th. Which makes the last 3 content drops seems worthless in the big picture.

Agreed. I stopped playing the game in late October due to work and I don't see myself going jumping back in until Destiny 2, unless they update the old raids or drop a new one. I have had my fill of the current content.
 

WGMBY

Member
I have some College friends that play Destiny almost exclusively, and currently all they're talking about is The Division.

Personally I never did any of the high end stuff in the game, but for people who play every day, the lack of new content must be annoying.
 

FyreWulff

Member
don't play this anymore but found it odd that sparrow racing was a limited time thing instead of a permanent addition to the game

I believe the goal is that it keeps rotating back in but doesn't overstay it's welcome. to use the halo equivalent, there were definitely playlists that did better when they were "special" and rotated in and out of existence than when they became permanent experiences, because people indulged, then burned out, going back to the regular course meals.

It also makes it easier to send something out, see what people feel on it, and then take it back to the garage for changes and adjustments. When something is permanent, people will react more strongly to changes they 'got used to ' for the past month or two, even if the purpose was to test the waters either way.

Iron Banner is likely rotational for reasons along the same line. If IB was permanent it'd always be competing against whatever regular mode it mirrored, and it's population would eventually filter down to only the super dedicated to it. The way it is now, it's like "IRON BANNER UP! TIME TO GET YOUR PANTS ON!" to more of the population.
 
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